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Willow88!

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It is a great TRAP and archaeic intimidating place for visiting schools. That is the allure.
But... maybe they can expand the seating a little and curve the student sections, and provide a tunnel underneath where they currently walk through? We are getting sellouts and the student sections can fill out a couple hundred more.
 
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RUJMM78

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The most pressing need is for a new promenade entrance which would provide more space for rest rooms and food concessions,Its total chaos at half time trying to move toward the rest rooms.A additional 2000 seats could be installed by moving the entrance out at least 25 feet .
 
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MV9000

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Take that rendering with the huge entrance with the screens and spruce up the inside. I find those bleachers over the glass to look awful and further closes in the corridor in a bad way. Bathrooms also, a joke right now. Also swap the 300s and all 200 seats with something more modern and comfortable.

there a lot to be done that won’t change the sound or what makes it a dynamic environment.
 
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Morrischiano2

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If you’re going to expand the promenade, then I worry that the acoustics would diminish.
But if you do expand the promenade the perhaps you can build bridge seating in front of it like MSG has. Call it the rafter seats.
 
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tico brown

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Morrischiano said:
If you’re going to expand the promenade, then I worry that the acoustics would diminish.
But if you do expand the promenade the perhaps you can build bridge seating in front of it like MSG has. Call it the rafter seats.
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OH HELL NO!!!!! That’s what killed the Garden’s atmosphere and more importantly makes people claustrophobic with that stupid bridge on top of the main seating area while probably blocking view of the scoreboard.
 
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tico brown

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gregkoko said:
If you sit above row 15 or so in the 200s, the sound is completely muffled. It's brutal
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Yup and you can’t see the scoreboard. Don’t get me started on the 400/ Blue Seats.

Better atmosphere at Prudential Center, Barclays Center.
 
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ouchmyknee

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If they decide to update rather than build new I’ve heard the plan is to create a large section of seats where 118 used to be that goes all the way back to where the old admin offices are. Those would then be turned into luxury suites. In order to do this you would lose the media room and the ticket windows, which would most likely be moved to a new entrance.

All this said, I’ve heard there is growing support to build a new arena in front of the RAC
 
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tico brown

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ouchmyknee said:
If they decide to update rather than build new I’ve heard the plan is to create a large section of seats where 118 used to be that goes all the way back to where the old admin offices are. Those would then be turned into luxury suites. In order to do this you would lose the media room and the ticket windows, which would most likely be moved to a new entrance.

All this said, I’ve heard there is growing support to build a new arena in front of the RAC
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Would it be built old school like The RAC/ Minnesota/ The Palestra or is it going to be the same old “modern arena” model that’s been built in the last few years? Although a smaller version of the Barclays (w/hockey) wouldn’t be that bad
 
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Barnaby&Neill

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cm_13 said:
bathrooms bathrooms bathrooms
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Not sure if this has been fixed, but 10-ish years ago I found myself in the unfortunate position of having to use the RAC bathrooms for a…2 pt play. The panel of stall doors was so flimsy that when a door anywhere on the row of stalls was thrown open or closed, it caused the whole panel to shake and my ‘locked’ door would swing open 🤣

Feel like they could fix that issue without losing the character of the place.
 
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RUSK97

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Leave it be. Although I'd be in favor of getting Scarlet R out of the old offices and extending that balcony out to make some luxury boxes. It's the only seating expansion that would make financial sense.
 
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tico brown

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RUSK97 said:
Leave it be. Although I'd be in favor of getting Scarlet R out of the old offices and extending that balcony out to make some luxury boxes. It's the only seating expansion that would make financial sense.
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This and fix the bathrooms and concessions.

No need to add seats. If Rutgers continues to improve its program, make this THE ticket to get!!! Just don’t rope off student section from much needed students for an important game.
 
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Miggins

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Given we have overall budget issues, the old, crappy, noisy RAC is a blessing. We do not have to build a new arena. Blow out the front and put a nice concourse/lobby with food and bathrooms. Maybe spruce up the seats and paint the outside in Scarlet
 
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Myrtleknight

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mugrat86 said:
I think they should add 2000 seats on front
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I would like to see vertical boxes built there. Way more revenue then 2000 seats.

We need to do something about media too. Not sure how to fix that but the media hates it. Heard Recco say that he couldn’t go to the bathroom because of lines and he couldn’t get down to the locker rooms in enough time to get back. That’s a problem.
 
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needmorecowbell

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It’s definitely happening, just not announced yet and I don’t know when. From what I understand, permanent seating down low and sides, lots of new premium seating and more amenities. Not sure if the capacity would significantly increase or not.
 
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RUSK97

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Morrischiano said:
If you’re going to expand the promenade, then I worry that the acoustics would diminish.
But if you do expand the promenade the perhaps you can build bridge seating in front of it like MSG has. Call it the rafter seats.
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In theory, you could build on and extend the front of the building without demolishing the current front facade. Keeping that (cinderblock?) facade would maintain the noise.
 
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Barnaby&Neill

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Miggins said:
Given we have overall budget issues, the old, crappy, noisy RAC is a blessing. We do not have to build a new arena. Blow out the front and put a nice concourse/lobby with food and bathrooms. Maybe spruce up the seats and paint the outside in Scarlet
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I visited Cameron Indoor when RU played at UNC in 2009. Seemed like that’s what Duke did to their building; the court and seating area seemed undisturbed, then there was a modern glass addition along the side of the old stone structure that I think functioned as a more practical concourse than whatever existed before.
 
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ColonelRutgers

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I know they use one part for hospitality, but should make use of the open spaces next to the student sections for concessions and/or rest rooms. Princeton has temporary concessions that they set up inside the arena part to complement the regular concessions in the concourse. Maybe even an alternate entrance back there to help with people traffic flow. Also, they can increase student attendance by about 25% by not cordoning off large sections for football recruiting at meaningful games.
 
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koolraddad

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There is no need to expand the seating at the RAC. Expand the sides and the front to add amenities, but don't ever change anything else.
 
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DHajekRC84

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RUinPinehurst said:
See Duke's Cameron Indoor Stadium. Seats 9,314. Tremendous home court advantage. Up close. Loud. Coach K's home record; 474–59 (.889).

So... improve the RAC's amenities, maybe add a few seats. But be careful....
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Or perhaps we could just now get Coach K?

(I KID I KID ...Pike's home record last 3 years equals 84% and would extrapolate to 474-90)
 
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DHajekRC84

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needmorecowbell said:
It’s definitely happening, just not announced yet and I don’t know when. From what I understand, permanent seating down low and sides, lots of new premium seating and more amenities. Not sure if the capacity would significantly increase or not.
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and this is what concerns me. Just like removing 118 and pushing the students back to accommodate the $$ and not necessarily the rabid fans. Trading vocal support for financial support.
I love the idea of runnnig seats up high where 118 was and still putting some suites in the middle where the lobby level currently is. Best of both worlds. That keeps the sound in so you can build out the front and put a bar-restaurant and other services in there. They need a pre-game place to hand. Just ask the Rutgers Club how its doing game days.
 
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RUJMM78

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bwrlaw said:
There is no need to expand the seating at the RAC. Expand the sides and the front to add amenities, but don't ever change anything else.
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Rutgers needs revenue to support the Athletic Department.Ticket sales for football ,basketball and wrestling are a significant part of revenue along with donor support.The status quo isn't acceptable from a revenue or a customer service perspective. Rutgers is part of the Big Ten Conference and needs to have facilities that meets the current requirements.A winning product requires some changes to the RAC which then couild be used for concerts or for other purposes as a means of adding revenue.
 
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