Sounds like we have 2 running back from 20-30+ years ago.Simpson? Wilfolk?
Need to recruit Leon Bright. Leon Bright would never fair catch a punt.
2 other guys to target would be Willie Flipper Anderson and Vai Sikahema
Sounds like we have 2 running back from 20-30+ years ago.Simpson? Wilfolk?
I do not think Dean gets any open 3 looks if a 4 plays him. His 3 looks come because a 5 is on him and, generally, 5s do not respect other 5s from 3 when they can look to protect the rim.Really think Pike has to give it more thought this year to play Dean and Cliff together.
He would still help space the floor and we should be a better rebounding team with Cliff Dean Caleb Paul on the courtI do not think Dean gets any open 3 looks if a 4 plays him. His 3 looks come because a 5 is on him and, generally, 5s do not respect other 5s from 3 when they can look to protect the rim.
Dean cuts well and Paul will find him whether he is being played by a 4 or a 5 and he is more athletic than he has been credit for on these boards. We see a Dean flush almost every game now. Most 4’s will not be quicker than him.I do not think Dean gets any open 3 looks if a 4 plays him. His 3 looks come because a 5 is on him and, generally, 5s do not respect other 5s from 3 when they can look to protect the rim.
No minutes for Jaden Jones?My internal thinking is that Hyatt is a 10 MPG playeruntil he proves us wrong. Is Dean more than 10 MPG? He still has a lot of work defensively. WTG with that switch last possession of the 1st half.
What I'd put in pen if returning
Mulcahy 34
McConnell 34
Miller 10
Mag 24
Cliff 30
Dean 10
Hyatt 10
Total 152
If i had to take a guess Pike brings in an undersized 2 guard that on ball defends and can score. undersized 2 guards are a dime a dozen. That would make Mag or an improved Reiber be your guy.
Sorry but have to disagree.Bad take. Road teams aren't getting calls, especially when we have a reputation for physical, in your face defense. Purdue is better than us 8 times out of 10. We got one of those this by playing a perfect game at home and having Purdue play not their best. We still looked decent in the loss, but that mental lapse at the end of the first and start of 2nd really killed off any chance we had of pulling off the upset.
No shame in losing this game at all. Bac's review was spot on.
Yes although he couldn't do this against Purdue with their two monster bids. It's absolutely a viable strategy against Michigan assuming Diabate is out, and against Indiana, Wisconsin, and Penn State too.Really think Pike has to give it more thought this year to play Dean and Cliff together. As long as Cliff does not have more than 1 foul in the first half and no more than 2 fouls for first 10 minutes of second half , he should consider it. Dean’s ability to hit the 3 with Paul working a 2 man game with Cliff or when Paul is backing his defender down creates either Paul’s shot, Paul’s pass to Cliff and can Ali have Dean also cutting to the rim or hit the 3. When Geo takes a breather or if Paul takes a breather with Geo replacing Paul , and you have Paul and Caleb and Ron and Cliff in , it would create a further matchup problem with Dean as compared to Mag or Aundre especially if the opponent is playing bigger. We got 22 points from the center position and Edey and Williams got 26 tonight. That makes us even more dangerous and can also rest Ron for some minutes this lineup as well .
The whistle slanted Purdue’s way but that’s always the case when you go on the road. It was unfortunate that the calls came on our best defensive player because we’re the kind of team where the offense builds off the defense.Sorry but have to disagree.
Take a look at Stat Sheet.
We Shot 51% Purdue shot 53%
We shot 33% from 3
Purdue shot 36% from 3.
We had 25 rebounds. Purdue had 27 rebounds.
We had 11 turnovers. Purdue had 7 turnovers.
We had 4 steals, Purdue had 2 steals.
We had 16 assists, Purdue had 19 assists.
All these stats point to an exceedingly close game. The one state that is glaringly out of line, so to speak:
Purdue was 24/29 from the line.
Rutgers was 13/17 from the line.
Purdue shot 12 more foul shots than Rutgers. Purdue won by 12.
Sorry but that foul discrepancy is the ball game in a nutshell. No calls and five fouls on Caleb and especially Paul fouling out. Purdue was in the bonus well before RU. Saw the same thing against Illinois. We scrape and get calls against us. Kofi and Ivy act like bulldozers and no calls.
We are good and deserve to have the game officiated fairly.
I disagree with BAC. The major factor when all is said and done IMHO was poor officiating. Stats don’t lie. And at the very least it’s a significant factor in any post game review.
The fact that he stopped Harper in G1 definitely got my attention.
Would Pike ever go after a B1G player without the blessing of his coach.
Some would say tou have to win and others would do that to us, but Pike is Pike and like that.
Tremendous game by RU.So many advantages for Purdue in this game.. and R guys kept fighting.
Good on them.
Ivey had the foul shots because he blew past whoever we put on him and we ended up fouling him.Sorry but have to disagree.
Take a look at Stat Sheet.
We Shot 51% Purdue shot 53%
We shot 33% from 3
Purdue shot 36% from 3.
We had 25 rebounds. Purdue had 27 rebounds.
We had 11 turnovers. Purdue had 7 turnovers.
We had 4 steals, Purdue had 2 steals.
We had 16 assists, Purdue had 19 assists.
All these stats point to an exceedingly close game. The one state that is glaringly out of line, so to speak:
Purdue was 24/29 from the line.
Rutgers was 13/17 from the line.
Purdue shot 12 more foul shots than Rutgers. Purdue won by 12.
Sorry but that foul discrepancy is the ball game in a nutshell. No calls and five fouls on Caleb and especially Paul fouling out. Purdue was in the bonus well before RU. Saw the same thing against Illinois. We scrape and get calls against us. Kofi and Ivy act like bulldozers and no calls.
We are good and deserve to have the game officiated fairly.
I disagree with BAC. The major factor when all is said and done IMHO was poor officiating. Stats don’t lie. And at the very least it’s a significant factor in any post game review.
Forgot about that. I am wrong. I guess once a player enters the portal he is fair game.He went after Harrar last offseason
Forgot about that. I am wrong. I guess once a player enters the portal he is fair game.
The first 18 minutes was a continuation of us playing a highly competitive game of basketball against a top team. The ball movement on offense was excellent and in line with what some of us have been clamoring to see for a long time prior to this recent stretch. We just could not make it to halftime and then continued to struggle to start the second half. Cliff's ill advised T was a turning point for the team and him.
We had no answer for Williams or Edney in the post. Williams showed an array of offensives moves beyond what I thought he was capable. If Edney catches it in the post the odds of him not getting a quality shot are very low. He also makes his FT's so hack a Zach is not an effective strategy even if you have a surplus of bigs to give fouls.
Purdue's strategy of doubling Paul with size was effective yet he still had six assists. I guess what it took away was the dribbling his smaller opponent down in the post. Geo seemed to be off. He hits a few shots after the game was decided to make his stats look better but when the game was on the line he just missed more than he has been lately. Also if there can be too many lob attempts to Cliff yesterday was a good example of it. Some times the pass was not easy to control and finish and other times it appeared the timing was off.
While our bench has limitations, their contribution against that caliber of competition was more than we could have expected especially on the offensive end. Dean is shooting the three with confidence when open. Mag was active on D and finished some shots from close. Hyatt got a lot of time in the second half and did OK. The issue with playing Mag and Miller together is that its like playing 3.5 versus 5 on the offensive end.
Ivey essentially fouled out Caleb and Paul. While was not crazy about how he carried himself at times and was not impressed with his outside shooting, I also thought most of the foul calls were earned on both end.
We really need to find a way to go into Ann Arbor and steal a win Wednesday night. I think it is as close to a must win as there is on the remaining schedule. I still think we need three wins and it might be easier in Ann Arbor than it will be in Bloomington. You never know how a team will respond to turmoil and the Wolves certainly have that at this time. With regard to the actual game, Martelli will manage the game as well if not better than Howard would. I guess #14 is the only player in jeopardy of suspension so they will still be formidable.
That’s the difference. I am losing memory. There is a thing that’s called the transfer portal.I fully agree though I love how Pike conducts himself and what he expects of his players. Would never take him for a tampering type.
Counterpoint: Penn State’s coach left, so it wasn’t like he was stealing him from a coach he was great friends with or anything. Would he be willing to do it against UnderwoodForgot about that. I am wrong. I guess once a player enters the portal he is fair game.
Forgot that tooCounterpoint: Penn State’s coach left, so it wasn’t like he was stealing him from a coach he was great friends with or anything. Would he be willing to do it against Underwood
Counterpoint: Penn State’s coach left, so it wasn’t like he was stealing him from a coach he was great friends with or anything. Would he be willing to do it against Underwood
A lot of good points. The most important positive for Rutgers was echoed in Painter’s press conference , where he said we were an NCAA team and probably the best Quad 2 (now 3) win in the history of the NCAA and we are capable of winning games in the tourney .At this point it's not stealing a win. We are as good if not better than the rest of the teams on our schedule right now. Indiana is probably the toughest game left with the way the RAC has been the last few weeks. Let's win em all
agree.. many moving picks on screens early to free up those open 3s. And I think Ivey is a travel machine.. perfect for the NBA. Funny thing was later you see him do amazing moves without traveling.. so if they called it a few times he would have not been impacted much.Tremendous game by RU.
The two factors that determined the game were the uncontested 3 point shots early in the game by Purdue ( scoring from everywhere) and the Refs giving all the calls and non-calls to Purdue during the last 4 minutes of the 1st Half. Changed the momentum and determined how the Refs wanted the game to end.
I agree. He's in the offensive flow and the team is now looking for him in the corner. Most especially, he's become a willing body on defense and is a willing rebounder. Earlier in the season he appeared to shy away from contact in the lane and was not active on rebounding nor did he attack the hoop on the offense. Not so anymore. I credit Pike for maintaining faith in Reiber with all the doubters ( myself included) and most credit to Reiber.Nice touch on his 3s. Eager to see how Pike uses him next season. A near 7 footer who can hit 3s would be a real nice weapon.
2nd game in a row that cliff missed multiple dunksPoor review by BAC. Officiating cost us the game. Purdue had 12 more foul shots and won by 12. Yes Cliff deserved the T. That’s on us and RU. Ivy taunting ignored!! While BAC notes Caleb’s fouls, he ignores three questionable fouls on Paul. 3rd bogus foul at end of half sucked the life of RU after such a nice comeback. Ivy repeatedly pushes RU players in the back no calls. Purdue was in the bonus long before RU. Ridiculous.
Nice super sub effort by Reiber.
Paul had nice game and stats.
We were passing ball so well.
Don’t know why Cliff missed a few bunnies.
Mag & Hyatt good/ decent minutes.
Caleb good game on d. Shame on refs.
Not Ron’s best game on D. A for effort. Willis Reed not to be.
Hope Michigan in turmoil. Howard is a punk.
I am sure Matt Painter wouldn't have called this their A game. They came out like a house on fire and defended, but I am sure he wasn't happy with his defense allowing Rutgers to get back in to the game twice.A lot of good points. The most important positive for Rutgers was echoed in Painter’s press conference , where he said we were an NCAA team and probably the best Quad 2 (now 3) win in the history of the NCAA and we are capable of winning games in the tourney .
But when analyzing whether and why we did not win has to do with the other team sometimes ( Maryland guards shoot lights out ) . Yesterday , Purdue played a AA+ game. They shot 58% and had only 7 turnovers and ran the most efficient offense in college basketball and got the benefit of the whistle and converted them. Edey and Williams played almost flawlessly and Williams even made a ridiculous 3 , which I am not sure he has taken one all year. Despite Purdue’s A game , the score was 32-31 and 36-35 with 2 minutes in the half. The last 2 minutes of the first half and first 5 minutes of the second doomed us for the loss. However, we had to overcome foul trouble especially against Caleb and Paul and Geo and Ron did not have their best or even great games but we only lost by 12 . When Paul hit that 3 with 9 minutes to go to cut it 62-52 , I thought we were going to win. But Ivey , a lottery pick could not be handled and fouled us out or Edey made every shot or got a huge rebound for a kick out 3.
This is really the most important takeaway is that we overcame obstacles , foul trouble , and still made the game competitive. That will help us. Purdue played like a Final Four team today with some NBA talent and we competed. Very confident for these next 4
I chalk it up to fatigue...2nd game in a row that cliff missed multiple dunks
I actually said the same thing to my wife.I chalk it up to fatigue...
I am a runner (jogger). Run mostly the same amount at the same time. Most days I run an X minute mile. Every once in awhile I don't have it and am 20 seconds slower.
So true.Sorry but have to disagree.
Take a look at Stat Sheet.
We Shot 51% Purdue shot 53%
We shot 33% from 3
Purdue shot 36% from 3.
We had 25 rebounds. Purdue had 27 rebounds.
We had 11 turnovers. Purdue had 7 turnovers.
We had 4 steals, Purdue had 2 steals.
We had 16 assists, Purdue had 19 assists.
All these stats point to an exceedingly close game. The one state that is glaringly out of line, so to speak:
Purdue was 24/29 from the line.
Rutgers was 13/17 from the line.
Purdue shot 12 more foul shots than Rutgers. Purdue won by 12.
Sorry but that foul discrepancy is the ball game in a nutshell. No calls and five fouls on Caleb and especially Paul fouling out. Purdue was in the bonus well before RU. Saw the same thing against Illinois. We scrape and get calls against us. Kofi and Ivy act like bulldozers and no calls.
We are good and deserve to have the game officiated fairly.
I disagree with BAC. The major factor when all is said and done IMHO was poor officiating. Stats don’t lie. And at the very least it’s a significant factor in any post game review.
Well I guess you didn’t listen to his press conference as he called it one of their best played games of the year as they only had 7 turnovers and hit 8-22 from 3 and a lot of foul shots and 58% from the field. He gave Rutgers all the credit for their offensive efficiency and thought Mulcahy was playing at an All BiG 10 level not that Purdue was deficient defensively.I am sure Matt Painter wouldn't have called this their A game. They came out like a house on fire and defended, but I am sure he wasn't happy with his defense allowing Rutgers to get back in to the game twice.
When you really evaluated our play. I'd give us another high mark for offensive execution. 72 points in 63 possessions is going to be enough for RU to win almost every night vs every opponent. Giving up 84 in 63 is a major problem.
This take will not be popular.......it is tough to bring it 100% physically and mentally every night. I don't care who the coach is or who the players are. As the game wore on Cliff seem to be as bouncy and I think a few others just werent 100% full of energy. Given how hard we have played the last 4 games and the opponent and the travel I give the entire team a free pass.
My takeaway is another very good offensive game. We are just 2+ weeks from being ranked near the 200s offensively.
Dean is also a very good passer; I thought he should have played more yesterday as their bigs were not coming out to guard himDean cuts well and Paul will find him whether he is being played by a 4 or a 5 and he is more athletic than he has been credit for on these boards. We see a Dean flush almost every game now. Most 4’s will not be quicker than him.
Rutgers plays physical. Not sure why that triggers you. I take it as a complimentThis crap about Rutgers being "physical" is getting old.
In basketball, "physical" is a code word for a team that fouls often.. that pushes other teams around by being bigger and stronger.
That is not RUTGERS and hasn't been all season long. But we hear it repeated so often that Rutgers fans are now saying it in this thread and explaining why we get called for more fouls using that crap.
EFFORT... DEFENSIVE EFFORT... TREMENDOUS EFFORT... that is what Rutgers brings.. and length. Yes, it takes a lot of physical effort but that is not what most people mean when they say "PHYSICAL" in terms of basketball.
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