Do games like this offset the terrible losses in the beginning of the season in the eyes of the NCAA committee?
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Winning record in B1G and 2 B1G tourney wins
The missing ingredient to RU was lacking a blowout win, against a quality opponent. This win will move the needle, because it's Michigan State and RU shot an insane percentage from the floor and had 20+ assists.....much different than asking Harper and Baker to do all the work and scoring 20 PTS a piece, in order to win.
19 is a lock, 18 is a chance
Paul keeps playing like this anything is possible. From what I see I think it’s very likely. He has realized his potential. They could win the big 10 tournament the way he is playing. When he is playing like that nobody in the Big 10 has a player like him!!!
Games like this... are maddening as a fan. As much I thoroughly enjoyed it, it's hard not to say to yourself "wtf happened at NW, and PSU and Lafayette...."
Really hard to get a handle on this bunch. They're great or terrible. Seems to be very little middle ground. Hopefully with Paul coming on bit the last couple games, that'll get everyone going. Gonna be an interesting final 8 games!
Really hard to get a handle on this bunch. They're great or terrible. Seems to be very little middle ground. Hopefully with Paul coming on bit the last couple games, that'll get everyone going. Gonna be an interesting final 8 games!
I feel you but Paul’s performance, has the potential to make all that a distant memory
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And Minnesota…and Maryland…drives me nuts lol
Minnesota and Northwestern are the ones that really chaff me in conference play. Then again we could have EASILY lost Iowa, Purdue, and Nebby on the road.
Rutgers has always been a program of what ifs and almosts. What makes it so frustrating.
Now they just have to build off these last 3 halves and hopefully commit as a team and believe in what is working.
Now they just have to build off these last 3 halves and hopefully commit as a team and believe in what is working.
Just be in the top half of the B1G and you’re in.
The metrics don't agree that it doesn't offset, it absolutely does.......RU jumped 20 spots on kenpom today.....not an opinion, just what the measurements say....
We moved 11 spots up in NET sparty fell 5. 100% not “offsetting” Lafayette NET impact. That’s fact lol
We’re 100 in the NET and 13th out of 14 Big Ten teams. But....we have 8 games left, almost all are opportunities to build the resume. Gotta find a way to go 4-4 in those at a minimum.
Clueless people referring to NET which is schedule based, not based on NCAA capabilities. Anyone with a clue can see there are 40 teams ahead of RU with zero chance at the NCAAs.....so being 13th out of 14 teams in NET, should tell fans that, but maybe not.....
It's the rankings used by the committee so it does matter even if we're better then teams above us
Of course people are referring to NET. It matters. Kenpom doesn't.
Lol the NET is the sorting tool..its incredibly important..the overall NET number isnt but if its beyond 80 on Selection Sunday the school is in a world of hurt
Rutgers isnt even in the last 8 out grouping if the tourney was selected TODAY
What are you talking about? NET is the ranking that matters and you’re going on about Kenpom. And you’re calling others clueless.
NET does not matter in terms of ranking teams for the NCAAs or the selection....it just provides the metrics for the categories that help shape how to compare resumes like Quad 1 or 2 wins/losses......The NET does not take the Top 68 teams ranked in NET for the tournament selection process....if a team is ranked outside of whatever number NET determines is not good enough, there is no defined number that says "you have to be at 80".
The NET moves based on who you have played and common sense should tell any RU fan that if there were no Q1 games left on their schedule, then it would be a different story.
It is more important to look at common sense and not an arbitrary number. Everyone's NET is going to be shaped in the next 3 weeks to then look at it much closer.
And Kenpom like other metrics based sites do matter to forecasting what does a potential matchup look like, when teams are under consideration and to determine matchups. To say that it doesn't matter is absurd. RU winning by 21 and shooting a significantly higher percentage from the floor and 3, impacts projections. RU winning by 3 to 4 points vs MSU is not the same as winning by 20+.....
If your net is over 80 there are obvious red flags
Poor ooc sos
Bad losses
Poor efficiency
Ken pom is only listed on the net team sheet nothing more
Being in a good conference gives you opportunity. There is still time for this team.Being a Providence fan I saw this first hand a couple years ago . We had some horrendous losses early in season then caught fire at end of year. This team reminds me of that one a little a lot of veteran players.
The discussion isn't really relevant right now, but what is relevant in regards to these metrics are what it shows on the play during the games.
RU isn't in the 100 range because they are way outside of NCAA consideration as of today....they're outside because they have a huge loss at Illinois by 30+ points and the early games were not blow out wins. The other factor is RU before yesterday, did not have a lot of efficiency. RU had the 2nd highest efficiency game of the entire NCAA season yesterday, which speaks to how they are playing much more than overall talent etc.
The stats that matter are assists and other metrics on defense and rebounding that ultimately will win out over an extended schedule of games. If RU stays aggressive (Mulcahy) and keeps defending well (McConnell) and keeps improving its 3 point shooting (Reiber, RHJ, Baker, Mulcahy etc), the types of game scores will impact the ratings.
RU will get to whatever NET wants their rating to be, as long as they win enough games down the stretch, whether that's 18 or 19 is anyone's guess. It will be very difficult to strictly base it on wins and losses.
If RU gets to 18 and has 4 double figure wins and has 3 single digit losses, that will be a factor. No one is going to penalize RU for not winning at Wisconsin or Purdue, they just need to defend, shoot a solid percentage and not get blown out in more than 1 of the remaining games. And the wins against the remaining Q1 games will push the NET low enough for contention. It's not overly complicated, get Q1 wins, the ratings and NET improve.....avoid more than 1 ugly loss and your NET won't go backwards.