I mean I don’t want to get rid of Pike any time soon but he is the guy responsible for finding the shooters.
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I mean I don’t want to get rid of Pike any time soon but he is the guy responsible for finding the shooters.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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What if your coaches recruiting philosophy puts other things higher than pure scoring ability?
This is an actual basketball discussion and question about how you should build your program and how you should play basketball.
A) You can build your program to ensure that it is flexible to compete against the way the majority of the league plays basketball
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B) You can construct a roster built on offense as the primary focus and have your roster built as an outlier vs what most of the league consists of.
I believe Iowa is what some or most fans who have watched RU basketball in the last 3 to 4 years, is offensive focused. If fans want offense, Iowa is your program to copy and mimic.
If Iowa (and maybe now Nebraska) appear to be the only 2 teams primarily focused on only offense, how well can you match up, over 20-22 games of B1G competition, if they are built or constructed a different way?? (Most of the B1G is focused on defense and rebounding, even Illinois after the 1st 2 years with Brad Underwood, scrapped their offense first play, and went towards playing defense....Illinois has gotten way better in that philosophy, vs the offense 1st path of Iowa.
The entire Pike nonsense is based on the way we play basketball, in the form of what Pike has learned under the guidance of former UConn coach Jim Calhoun. Pike is a Calhoun disciple. It is very hard to argue against following the methods of Jim Calhoun, he is a hall of fame coach.
It is not too far away from the way RU football is being built....is it defense 1st, or is it based on the wave of how football is trending with 4-5 WRs and spread offense??
Can you run a spread offense when half of your games are potentially in bad weather, windy weather and/or cold temperatures?? It is easier to play passing offense in the SEC, Pac 12 and most of the Big 12, when the weather is more favorable.
Any other discussion about Pike is ridiculous....I can recall threads when Jordan was fired on the length of time it would take to possibly or potentially be a NCAA program. I saw timelines ranging from best case 5 years and hopefully able to do so in 6 years.....bac2therac even hinted that 7 to 8 years was a length of time to rebuild this program was the ground up..
Pike completed the rebuild to that level in 4 years, this year being Year 5....it is not a completely done rebuild, there's recruiting that needs to happen for 2022 and the transfer portal, but anyone saying they would not have signed up for this 5 years under Pike, is a complete liar....
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No, the best teams have some semblance of an inside presence. If you don't, you become one dimensional. So a 5 or a 4 who can score inside is still important.
It's no coincidence that the top 5 seeded teams in the BIG have bigs who can score.
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For a community that swears to be so smart, some of you really go far off course. Lol.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PIKE BEING FIRED OR THAT THIS IS HIS LIMIT. LOL.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THIS YEAR. LOL.
the reality is this... you same people that are derailing the thread would be on board w this very conversation if WE end up 9/10 in the big for the next 5 years.
For the 5 of you that were able to do that, thanks for what you brought to the thread. Lol.
And for the record... I’m not a new fan. Lol.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT PIKE BEING FIRED OR THAT THIS IS HIS LIMIT. LOL.
NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THIS YEAR. LOL.
the reality is this... you same people that are derailing the thread would be on board w this very conversation if WE end up 9/10 in the big for the next 5 years.
For the 5 of you that were able to do that, thanks for what you brought to the thread. Lol.
And for the record... I’m not a new fan. Lol.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Admittedly on my list of RU sports I care about its
1) football
2) football
3) football
Basketball.
Still root for us to win though and would like to see us be better
I sat right next to Brian and Janet for five years. Not only do they follow the team from Mexico to Oregon to Mississippi, but they really care about our kids, while they are at Rutgers and after graduation. Despite being way more connected with the program than probably anybody in this horrible thread, he never spoke to me in a “look at me, I am great friends with Coach xyz.” Rutgers needs more people like Janet and Brian, not have them insulted. On a personal note, not only does Brian know he is fortunate to have Janet as his wife, I was always impressed by how he spoke about her. Often I would notice he would refer to her, not as his wife, but as his beautiful wife. Always talked about her in a respectful and kind way. Unfortunately, you hear too many husbands and wives talk about the other with no respect these days ( and that is in public).
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I'm aware of your devotion. But like I said you have scarlet colored glasses. I mean player x could shoot free throws like Patrick Ewing in space jam after he loses his talent and you'd come here and defend what a great kid he is regardless of how bad they might be at basketball.
I don't think pike should be fired but he needs to keep taking steps forward.
Ok my man. See that's what's great about these boards...this right here. You don't get me, and I'll never understand fans like you.
It's always a little more complex than the hot takes that get tossed around on these boards, just remember that.
Please enjoy the rest of the season...and GO RU!
Can't believe I am responding to this thread - however I will hold my nose as I type.
Folks for get the type of university Rutgers is - the faculty has always had a significant influence on the direction of our athletic programs. Pike represents the ideal image - - take care of the kids treat them as student athletes. Myles is an icon here as the true overachieving STUDENT ATHLETE! As long as Pike is moderately successful and the roster continues to graduate at a successful clip Pike goes no where (unless by his own decision). The university will never tolerate a win first attitude (review the Kyle Flood episode).
Rutgers in our life time will never hire the likes of Pitino..
Folks for get the type of university Rutgers is - the faculty has always had a significant influence on the direction of our athletic programs. Pike represents the ideal image - - take care of the kids treat them as student athletes. Myles is an icon here as the true overachieving STUDENT ATHLETE! As long as Pike is moderately successful and the roster continues to graduate at a successful clip Pike goes no where (unless by his own decision). The university will never tolerate a win first attitude (review the Kyle Flood episode).
Rutgers in our life time will never hire the likes of Pitino..
This is sad to read. By this logic the school doesn’t belong in the BIG
Also, bad analogy with kyle flood . That was not a win first attitude . That was a terrible, cheap hire that did not have a win first attitude . More like save money and had nothing to do with winning
Discussions of what happens after Pike are nothing more than a circular firing squad, or false flag attempts by other fan bases to undermine us in recruiting.
Pike will and should be here long enough where the next coach is not even on the radar yet
Fans that even think Pikiell should be spoken of about being fired don't have a clue. When Eddie was let go after the 2016 season RU was rated at # 279 in the country. Now during these last 2 seasons we are between the mid twenties to the twin thirties in the country. The BIG 10 is far and away the toughest league in the country and every team and coach wants to do well. Our schedule is rated the 5th toughest in the entire country out of 357 teams. We are so lucky to have Steve as our coach. He cares about the school, the players and our position in the public's eye. He respects everyone and is so considerate of everyone. For people to yell out that they want Pitino immediately I think they are completely off base. Pitino does not represent the things that Rutgers values. He is an excellent coach but there is more to being a Rutgers coach than that. I hope we can get a win on Saturday but I am 100 % in on Steve and our entire staff and players. I have gotten to see all of them up close over the last few years and I respect each and every one of them.
I think some of you just don't realize what is most important about how our University is looked at in the public eye.
I think some of you just don't realize what is most important about how our University is looked at in the public eye.
Post is actually noteworthy for it's level of denseness and insensitivity.
That is a terrible thing if true. A lot of universities better than RU will do what it takes to win in sports. If Rutgers isn’t willing to that, that go back to playing Lehigh.
You guys miss the point - we have a faculty with a legacy of wanting to be ivy league. That legacy has influenced athletic decisions for decades. Have all forgotten the rutgers 1000.
Boynton just signed a 7-year $21M contract.
Boynton just signed a $21M 7-year contract extension.
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He would be a great guy at RU. He still makes less than pike on his new contract
I don't really care what Boynton gets at Oklahoma State. Steve is our Coach and I hope he is at RU for many more years.
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This is the worst thread I’ve ever read on both free board. Congrats.
If Pike leaves it will because his success at Rutgers had the heavyweights come after him.
Pikes success as the RU HC will give him legendary status and Hobbs will do everything to make him stay.
Pikiell himself will find it hard to leave a place he is so loved and any thought of him leaving will end because he knows being considered the face and heart of the RU MBB program is the type of honor he won't find anywhere else.
Pikes success as the RU HC will give him legendary status and Hobbs will do everything to make him stay.
Pikiell himself will find it hard to leave a place he is so loved and any thought of him leaving will end because he knows being considered the face and heart of the RU MBB program is the type of honor he won't find anywhere else.
So just how bad is this hypothetical thread again? Yes. I’m tagging all of you idiots with Scarlett colored glasses who called me out on a discussion thread. Please come to the front and defend your stupidity. How bad was my take again?
I bumped the hell out if this thread. And I never do that. I still remember the day I made this post. And all of you homers jumped to defend the ship instead of having a TRUE conversation about what’s next for RU hoops. Hopefully you all learned your lesson and stop typing from the heart.
A conversation is just that… a talk… not action.
Again…. I like Pike… and I HOPE he turns it around. (Recruiting HS/Portal)
I am just not seeing it myself. As an RU hoops fan, I’ll be happy w/ him turning it around or getting fired. I really believe that Hobbs brings in the home run hire next time around. There’s a little less of a financial burden 4/5/6 years later, and I trust him to go hard for hoops.
Let me finishing throwing away my sour grapes to some of you fools in this thread by saying this…. I LIKE PIKE, I HOPE HE FINDS SOME MAGIC POTION DURING THE OFFSEASON!!!!! (Though I’m not expecting it).
But the bottom line is, on this board, some of you either need to learn how to have a discussion, or just stop posting all together.
So tell me again how stupid this thread was?
A conversation is just that… a talk… not action.
Again…. I like Pike… and I HOPE he turns it around. (Recruiting HS/Portal)
I am just not seeing it myself. As an RU hoops fan, I’ll be happy w/ him turning it around or getting fired. I really believe that Hobbs brings in the home run hire next time around. There’s a little less of a financial burden 4/5/6 years later, and I trust him to go hard for hoops.
Let me finishing throwing away my sour grapes to some of you fools in this thread by saying this…. I LIKE PIKE, I HOPE HE FINDS SOME MAGIC POTION DURING THE OFFSEASON!!!!! (Though I’m not expecting it).
But the bottom line is, on this board, some of you either need to learn how to have a discussion, or just stop posting all together.
So tell me again how stupid this thread was?
Still a bad thread. Even if the thread becomes relevant somewhere down the line it doesn't mean it was a good thread to start on March 3, 2021. It wouldn't even be a good thread to start today.
Hold your career to the standard you want set here and is it logical or fair.
this thread is and was beyond stupid.
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