OT: Tip culture

[KeithK7624]

Is it me or is this getting out of hand?

i always tip well. Takeout at a restaurant, delivery, at a restaurant?

but why is it asking for 18% at Newark airport when they’re literally just dropping off my order? Also, at the bowl game, I was asked to tip on everything.

 

[DJ Spanky]

I've noticed more and more places have a tip jar on the counter too.

 

[Knight Shift]

Service industry workers are hurting and restaurants/bars are hurting for employees.
It's easy for people sitting behind a screen and on the phone all day safe from exposure to others to complain about such things.

 

[rcube1994]

Service industry workers are hurting and restaurants/bars are hurting for employees.
It's easy for people sitting behind a screen and on the phone all day safe from exposure to others to complain about such things.

Do you expect the tip expectations from service workers to disappear once the pandemic is over?

 

[mdk02]

Service industry workers are hurting and restaurants/bars are hurting for employees.
It's easy for people sitting behind a screen and on the phone all day safe from exposure to others to complain about such things.

It started before Covid, and has accelerated. Asking to tip when I call in a pick-up order and pay by plastic when I pick it up back in 2019 was a bit extreme.

 

[Captain Hogleg]

Panera has a tip request on any purchase I make where I pay by plastic. It’s the height of annoying. Just charge more for my food if you want your employees to make more $. But I’m not tipping the worker at the register.

 

[Ronnie_B]

 

[RUevolution36]

It started before Covid, and has accelerated. Asking to tip when I call in a pick-up order and pay by plastic when I pick it up back in 2019 was a bit extreme.

Are they asking for a tip, or is it just the printed receipt? The restaurant isn't going to print one type of receipt without a tip section for take out vs one with for dine in.

 

[Knight Shift]

Do you expect the tip expectations from service workers to disappear once the pandemic is over?

No. The pandemic has exposed that these workers are underpaid.

It started before Covid, and has accelerated. Asking to tip when I call in a pick-up order and pay by plastic when I pick it up back in 2019 was a bit extreme.

For now, restaurants that had been shut down, reduced capacity and had to invest in a lot of workarounds (shields, etc) are doing what they can to recoup lost $. Saw that a popular bagel shop in Aberdeen (open since 1974) shut down because they could not get by anymore. Meanwhile, the landlord had raised their rent, knowing that they had reduced revenue.

Yeah, yeah- play the world's smallest violin for the service workers and restaurant owners.

 

[Scarlet1984]

The one I laugh at is at the "convenience stores" in Newark Airport. There is one employee whose job is to hover over you as you try to ring up your Twizzlers, pretzels and water yourself. And the final step is to select the tip amount. That's out of hand.

I've become an overtipper generally. Life is too short.

At the same time, the Christmas tips confuse me. A friend told me that they found out they were on the "no tip list" at the local Post Office (friend of daughter did some temp work there). That sounds like something out of a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.

 

[Plum Street]

Last time I gave just the tip , it didn’t go over well with mrs. Plum

 

[Plum Street]

I noticed this really ramped up, especially with concessions . At a baseball game., you get a couple beers from the beer guy maybe throw him the $1 or $2 change in the old days . With Covid it’s no cash and the prompts to select the tip amount by percent come up when you’re paying . People are tipping way more on the cards nowadays .

 

[ashokan]

Living costs are out-of-control in a lot of places
My old hometown used to be affordable for young people getting started
Now a 1 bedroom apt in a sketch neighborhood with poor schools and no parking is $2100
A 1350 sq ft house with no property is 460k
The schools are 3/4 "immigrants" and the parents took a lot of jobs and lived in a house with 12-15 people sharing rent. A working family on the books can't easily afford what 15 off-the-books guys with leaf-blowers can
The financial firms are also running the market bubbles and are buying the homes and driving prices up.
Those who have get more and those who dont need tips.
A lot of bommers threw their "Greatest Generation" parents under the bus, and then they wrecked their kids with toxic colleges, job exports/worker imports and tax-payer backed economic bubbles.
Now we've gone from yuppies to hipsters to tipsters. Now kids don't know if they are boys or girls and they have fishooks in their lips under their black Antifa masks. After the tip phase, they might be outside your house next like Venezuela

 

[Scarlet1984]

Living costs are out-of-control in a lot of places
My old hometown used to be affordable for young people getting started
Now a 1 bedroom apt in a sketch neighborhood with poor schools and no parking is $2100
A 1350 sq ft house with no property is 460k
The schools are 3/4 "immigrants" and the parents took a lot of jobs and lived in a house with 12-15 people sharing rent. A working family on the books can't easily afford what 15 off-the-books guys with leaf-blowers can
The financial firms are also running the market bubbles and are buying the homes and driving prices up.
Those who have get more and those who dont need tips.
A lot of bommers threw their "Greatest Generation" parents under the bus, and then they wrecked their kids with toxic colleges, job exports/worker imports and tax-payer backed economic bubbles.
Now we've gone from yuppies to hipsters to tipsters. Now kids don't know if they are boys or girls and they have fishooks in their lips under their black Antifa masks. After the tip phase, they might be outside your house next like Venezuela

I thought the question was “Is tipping out of hand?”, not “Anyone have a dystopian vision for America that they’d like to share.”

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Tipping is out of control. Don’t mind tipping at restaurants, etc. but being asked to tip for my deli sandwich, after I’ve already been charged $12, Is a bit much. Also hate being asked to tip at convenience stores.

 

[RUevolution36]

have any of you waited tables or worked in food service?

 

[beaced_rivals]

Service industry workers are hurting and restaurants/bars are hurting for employees.
It's easy for people sitting behind a screen and on the phone all day safe from exposure to others to complain about such things. quote ................... WAGES in that industry are low. TIPS are what the servers exist on.

 

[Bleem Phuppert]

I thought the question was “Is tipping out of hand?”, not “Anyone have a dystopian vision for America that they’d like to share.”

I'm a little surprised that you didn't know Mike Flynn was a regular poster, here.

 

[superfan01]

Problem is restaurants pay less then minimum wage so employees survive off tips.

 

[rufeelinit]

The proliferation of gratuity expectations for things that should be just part of the cost of the service or item purchased has been going on for years. Seems to be the worst here in the US.

 

[e5fdny]

Panera has a tip request on any purchase I make where I pay by plastic. It’s the height of annoying. Just charge more for my food if you want your employees to make more $. But I’m not tipping the worker at the register.

I’ve notice the surcharge for credit vs. cash isn’t just at the gas station now…and not just for the size of party, nor is it just in the service industry.

 

[ashokan]

I thought the question was “Is tipping out of hand?”, not “Anyone have a dystopian vision for America that they’d like to share.”

Tips and a society circling the drain are hand in hand.
The big cities are battlegrounds with people being murdered en masse each week.
Even NYSE wants to leave NYS
The dollar is being destroyed
The military has political officers" like USSR while transbenders are made into generals
Navy ships crash into boats they can see 2 hours away (now they hit ocean mountains too).
The leading cause of death now are fentanyl deaths because borders are gone and DC has ceded control to cartels.
Invasion of Normandy was 165k US troops - 13x that has come over the border unscreened and then flown around the country in a pandemic while the same people gear-up to inject babies with an mRNA cocktail destroying peoples immunity with each shot (and a hemorrhagic CV-19 version cooking over in Asia).
Heck the "stock market" is an oxymoron now because its more fixed than market.
Kids cant even buy cars now never mind pay for the gas
The smart people see the escalating dangerous but unfortunately that leaves out a lot of people with grad degrees running stuff into the ground.
Wal St and gov accomplices rip people off for billions but hey - gotta get to those people with tips jars

"The number of fentanyl deaths in the U.S. doubled from around 32,000 to 64,000 between April 2019 and April 2021. The drug has taken just shy of 80,000 people's lives between January 2020 and December 2021."

https://www.abc12.com/news/fentanyl...cle_ed0bfe28-5f79-11ec-8aa0-af3f6cbff03c.html

What a surprise eh?

 

[RUinBoston]

Service industry workers are hurting and restaurants/bars are hurting for employees.
It's easy for people sitting behind a screen and on the phone all day safe from exposure to others to complain about such things.

I've been tipping way more since the pandemic, especially for takeout. But last night I paid $6 for a small soda at the TD Garden (Damn Devils should have won) and the guy turned the screen to me to enter a tip, but I just couldn't do it. That's kind of where I draw the line. Beers were 15 bucks BTW. Wow...I guess I haven't been to a game in a while.

 

[S_Janowski]

It’s gotten out of hand the past 5 years or so.

It’s been even worse the past year and many places now default to an 18-20% tip when you check out.

Sorry but if you pour me a cup of coffee I may leave something in a jar for you but I shouldn’t be defaulted to leaving an 18-20% tip when I pay with my card.

 

[Joey Bags]

The increase in food prices plus increase in tip expectations have led us to drastically cut takeout and dine-in habits. I’ve also gotten really good at cooking since the pandemic started.

Unless prices change I could see my lifestyle changes being permanent.

 

[S_Janowski]

I noticed this really ramped up, especially with concessions . At a baseball game., you get a couple beers from the beer guy maybe throw him the $1 or $2 change in the old days . With Covid it’s no cash and the prompts to select the tip amount by percent come up when you’re paying . People are tipping way more on the cards nowadays .

Went to an Eagles game last week and the beer vendors only took card. The one vendor was literally yelling at people to “pay card”, “tip cash”.

 

[KeithK7624]

have any of you waited tables or worked in food service?

I have. But if I order a beer at the airport, never greeted, never asked a question, just delivered my beer, why am I paying 18%? That’s not a bartender

 

[KeithK7624]

I've been tipping way more since the pandemic, especially for takeout. But last night I paid $6 for a small soda at the TD Garden (Damn Devils should have won) and the guy turned the screen to me to enter a tip, but I just couldn't do it. That's kind of where I draw the line. Beers were 15 bucks BTW. Wow...I guess I haven't been to a game in a while.

Same thing at the bowl game. $13 for nachos, screen turned and a 0, 15, 20, 25% option.

 

[Knight Shift]

The increase in food prices plus increase in tip expectations have led us to drastically cut takeout and dine-in habits. I’ve also gotten really good at cooking since the pandemic started.

Unless prices change I could see my lifestyle changes being permanent.

Same for us, but not so much the prices and tips. Most restaurants were so crowded, we did not want to deal with the wait. When we do eat out, we tip around 40-50% unless the service is terrible, and we still tip at 20-30%.

 

[Plum Street]

have any of you waited tables or worked in food service?

Yes . Briefly as a youngster and not my cup of tea.
Tipping waited tables, a delivery person sure . They are providing you a service . But someone just ringing you up the register ? I don’t think they need to be tipped. But bagging groceries in the supermarket , I tip if they have a can out. .

On another note, we have all heard stories from our service worker friends on the demographics of people that do or don’t tip . It is quite interesting to say the least .

A couple of years ago we were having drinks in the theater district . The group next to us were tourists from Belgium and when they got their tab I heard them say the gratuity was added on . When I got my bill, I didn’t see a tip added on so I asked the bartender and she said “we do that for all the tourists, but I can tell you’re from around here.”

 

[Plum Street]

Went to an Eagles game last week and the beer vendors only took card. The one vendor was literally yelling at people to “pay card”, “tip cash”.

Yep . They much rather get tipped in cash obviously . But I think more people are actually tipping now that the card option is there

 

[RC1978]

Move to Europe, tipping is usually whatever change you get back if at all. That is because restaurant workers get paid real wages.

When you have $2.13 and hour min wage for waiters etc you end up with tips becoming a big issue.

I do agree with when you do all the work and a machine asks for a tip is over the top.

 

[mdk02]

have any of you waited tables or worked in food service?

In college at a deli/beer garden. And you can imagine what tips (tips?) were like in a college town.

 

[Kbee3]

Tips and a society circling the drain are hand in hand.
The big cities are battlegrounds with people being murdered en masse each week.
Even NYS wants to leave NYS
The dollar is being destroyed
The military has political officers" like USSR while transbenders are made into generals
Navy ships crash into boats they can see 2 hours away (now they hit ocean mountains too).
The leading cause of death now are fentanyl deaths because borders are gone and DC has ceded control to cartels.
Invasion of Normandy was 165k US troops - 13x that has come over the border unscreened and then flown around the country in a pandemic while the same people gear-up to inject babies with an mRNA cocktail destroying peoples immunity with each shot (and a hemorrhagic CV-19 version cooking over in Asia).
Heck the "stock market" is an oxymoron now because its more fixed than market.
Kids cant even buy cars now never mind pay for the gas
The smart people see the escalating dangerous but unfortunately that leaves out a lot of people with grad degrees running stuff into the ground.
Wal St and gov accomplices rip people off for billions but hey - gotta get to those people with tips jars

"The number of fentanyl deaths in the U.S. doubled from around 32,000 to 64,000 between April 2019 and April 2021. The drug has taken just shy of 80,000 people's lives between January 2020 and December 2021."

https://www.abc12.com/news/fentanyl...cle_ed0bfe28-5f79-11ec-8aa0-af3f6cbff03c.html

What a surprise eh?

Why do you hate this country so much ?

 

[RUevolution36]

I have. But if I order a beer at the airport, never greeted, never asked a question, just delivered my beer, why am I paying 18%? That’s not a bartender

That goes to my other point. It's just a receipt, it's not an expectation of a tip. They set up the system to print one type of receipt, that's all.

also likely that they're using a standard POS software for managing orders/receipts/etc.

 

[mdk02]

Living costs are out-of-control in a lot of places
My old hometown used to be affordable for young people getting started
Now a 1 bedroom apt in a sketch neighborhood with poor schools and no parking is $2100
A 1350 sq ft house with no property is 460k
The schools are 3/4 "immigrants" and the parents took a lot of jobs and lived in a house with 12-15 people sharing rent. A working family on the books can't easily afford what 15 off-the-books guys with leaf-blowers can
The financial firms are also running the market bubbles and are buying the homes and driving prices up.
Those who have get more and those who dont need tips.
A lot of bommers threw their "Greatest Generation" parents under the bus, and then they wrecked their kids with toxic colleges, job exports/worker imports and tax-payer backed economic bubbles.
Now we've gone from yuppies to hipsters to tipsters. Now kids don't know if they are boys or girls and they have fishooks in their lips under their black Antifa masks. After the tip phase, they might be outside your house next like Venezuela

I'm not sure whether you mean bombers (I was never in and opposed the Weather Underground), bummers (never did LSD) or Boomers, but that all is utter twaddle. Just how did I throw the Greatest Generation" under the bus? If you consider colleges toxic, they began to go down that path before Boomers were old enough to get tenure. I'll bypass the rest of your rant as pure comedy.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

Problem is restaurants pay less then minimum wage so employees survive off tips.

Don't think that's the entirety of it. Everyone understands that certain jobs survive on tips, but the concept has expanded to jobs that don't rely on tips ...to the point it feels like every person you interact with (and some you don't) are starting to expect a tip.

I try to be a generous tipper, but at some point, getting paid to do your job has to be the end of it, especially when the customer is paying service/delivery fees or purchasing thousands of dollars worth of product or service.

 

[ashokan]

Why do you hate this country so much ?

You're being supercilious at best
Almost everything is falling apart.
We pulled out of A'stan without even telling allied forces that we asked to be there
A week later CCP (who owns DC) is visiting Bagram and UK Parliament is condemning US leaders
Then we go over and stoke Eastern Europe while while domestically we cant even move goods while the transportation guy is on maternity leave.
US makes Venezuela look smart

 

[RUBlackout7]

Idk how restaurants convinced everyone that customers should be responsible of paying the majority of their employee’s salaries, but it’s bs

 

[ashokan]

I'm not sure whether you mean bombers (I was never in and opposed the Weather Underground), bummers (never did LSD) or Boomers, but that all is utter twaddle. Just how did I throw the Greatest Generation" under the bus? If you consider colleges toxic, they began to go down that path before Boomers were old enough to get tenure. I'll bypass the rest of your rant as pure comedy.

Not all the boomers - more the mainstreamed boomer crowd who thought their parents were all Archie Bunker neanderthals and they were the peace/love savior generation. Collectively they "generously" made enemies into friends and citizens have to be censored to protect them. No amendment is more important that the first and its 100% under threat from the eggheads that the boomer college faculties turned out. I was there to see it come on. US colleges are toxic with the most crazy ideas. Sentient insects at Rutgers lol?