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It’s not your science based.

There are valid arguments to be made. You aren’t making the right ones and you keep creating your own facts that are flat out wrong.

You keep saying masks don’t prevent getting COVID or prevent spread. I don’t know how you can be making those statements. Do you really believe it?

The real argument is do we allow this to play out and not worry about the unvaccinated and the compromised. Do we don’t even bother stopping the spread risking variants that can be worse than Omicron?

I have very mixed feelings.
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bac2therac

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Crowd wasn’t super loud but I’d say 6,599-7,000 on hand. Better than some thought.


yes much better and glad to eat crow on this. RU fans really showed up. The mask mandate definitely had an effect on crowd noise muffling the RU cheers or screams

Did think the fans were a little quiet at times on defense on some possessions in the first half of the 2nd half
 

bethlehemfan

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yes much better and glad to eat crow on this. RU fans really showed up. The mask mandate definitely had an effect on crowd noise muffling the RU cheers or screams

Did think the fans were a little quiet at times on defense on some possessions in the first half of the 2nd half
Great job by the fans to come out. I am pleasantly surprised.
 

AreYouNUTS

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I mean if they’re going to continue to make students wear masks they could at least push the student section back 10 feet closer to the baseline where it used to be. That should help!
 

Luvscarletknights

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I'm thinking maybe 5300. Scared people, kids with no vax, students. I I'm thinking no band. They were not present for the 2 games last week. Stupid piped in RU fight song. Maybe they think virus blows out thru the tuba?
Glad you were proven wrong.

Band was great, student section great, fans were great, not many MU fans.

The MU fans that were in stands were kept pretty quiet.
 

RU848789

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So are all the deaths that counted as “due to COVID,” but were actually something else (well along…) that got hit with COVID, going to be adjusted now? Or has Fauci not “circled back” to that one yet?
That's ******** and always has been. Every death certificate is signed by an MD who attests to the primary cause of death, so if a death was classified as COVID, that means it was the primary cause (even if the person died from pneumonia due to the COVID infection). The fact is that excess deaths for this pandemic in every country, including the US are well above (20-50% in most countries) the COVID classified deaths and most of those are mostly likely due to COVID, too.
 

RU848789

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I’m seeing some baby steps taken on all of this which could be for the better. First Fauci is saying children hospitalizations are over counted because they could be a kid who broke his leg and then tested positive for covid. That theory was “debunked”in 2020 so that’s a positive. Also another Dr just said cloth masks do not work. That’s pretty much what many thought all along.

I am still in favor of the vaccines. I have been consistent throughout. I think they and therapeutics are the way forward. We can’t mandate it. It’s like smokers who shouldn’t smoke. We can’t force them to quit. We can’t force vaccines. Just present the data and tell them to ask their Docs. Many people don’t go to Docs either so that’s a battle as well.
Cases and hospitalizations are definitely conflated right now, given how infectious omicron is, but deaths are never ascribed to COVID without cause. Also, doctors are not saying "cloth masks don't work" - they're saying cloth masks offer far less protection against the far more transmissible omicron variant (5-10X more infectious than the original strain) and N95/KN95 are clearly recommended now with omicron.

Agree it's always better to let the science speak for itself regarding vaccines, but if large numbers are going to foolishly ignore the science and become much greater risks for hosp/death and infecting others, then yes, we can mandate them to get vaccines - we mandate dozens of vaccines for children attending schools and it's worked beautifully until now.
 

RU848789

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It’s not your science based.

There are valid arguments to be made. You aren’t making the right ones and you keep creating your own facts that are flat out wrong.

You keep saying masks don’t prevent getting COVID or prevent spread. I don’t know how you can be making those statements. Do you really believe it?

The real argument is do we allow this to play out and not worry about the unvaccinated and the compromised. Do we don’t even bother stopping the spread risking variants that can be worse than Omicron?

I have very mixed feelings.
He's a friggin idiot when it comes to COVID, with zero understanding of the science. I've explained how masks work, albeit imperfectly, in excruciating detail, but he listens to morons on the internet, while I go to the source science and have actually done this type of science looking at mask effectiveness in removing small particulates at work, which are of similar size to virus droplets.
 
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