Instead of playing Agee and Reiber, i honestly would just go small and play Hyatt or Ron at the 5. Create mismatches on the defensive end. Honestly, is playing Reiber and Agee getting us anywhere on D anyways? They both don't rebound (especially Agee) and are extremely limited on offense. We might as well create a mismatch on the other end at least.
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I think it depends on the team you are playing. If they have huge big men then it's hard to play Hyatt or Ron at the 5. Also, if Hyatt or Ron are playing the 5, they have to have the mentality to play hard defense and rebound. It looks like Ron doesn't always have the mentality to mix it up down low.
It's really disappointing that Agee and Reiber are our backup centers. I know some thought Reiber could be good, but I've always thought that he was terrible and too small to play in the B1G. And Agee plays like he is 200lbs and is afraid of contact.
Question is what took so long for the coach to realize this as he was on the bench for much of the game yesterday as he was overmatched on offense and defense
I see Paul as a point guard. In what level of basketball can you have a guy who can't shoot, not a strong defender, and not a big rebounder playing a 2 or a 3? Paul's asset is his vision. He is a backup point guard.
It is like playing a guy who can't hit at 1st base.
I have no problem with him sitting yesterday. He was having a bad game. Your 2 stars also shot 7 for 23 (2 of 10 from 3). FIVE..FIVE! total rebounds between them. So he wasn't the only one who sucked yesterday.
Pike needs to put Paul in a position to be successful....the PG idea was not a good one
The ball does stop with Paul. It is a problem. He would do better creating with the ball reversed to him where the defense is moving to adjust and out of position. Way too many possessions where he dribbles countless times and nothing is happening
Paul shot 58 of 121 (48%) overall last year. 22 of 56 from 3 (39%) and 36 of 65 from closer to the basket (55%). He is 4th on the team with 4 rebounds per game.
Tell me what changed? How bout how and where he is being played.
I'll never forget my first HS basketball game. I was considered by coach the best defender on the team. First guy off the bench he put me in to stop the other teams point guard from driving. First possession, zoooom . Right by me. I wasn't a point guard. I was a small forward/Wing back then (we didn't have position numbers). I was all about position, help, boxing out, etc.
His passing from the post was awesome last year. Plus his ability to get closer to the basket. Him being out top is ridicules.
Putting him at the 3 isn't going to bring Jacob Young back.
We did beat #1 Purdue with Paul as our primary point guard. He didn't score, but he got us in to our offensive sets.
Is there a player on a successful college basketball team that has a player at the 2 or 3 for a lot of minutes that has Paul's tool box?
What is the lineup you want to see with Paul at the 2 or 3? It will either be a terrible offensive team or a terrible defensive team.
Baker and Paul will be extremely challeged defensively (forget about adding Hyatt or Jones)
Miller and Paul won't score
We did beat #1 Purdue with Paul as our primary point guard. He didn't score, but he got us in to our offensive sets.
Is there a player on a successful college basketball team that has a player at the 2 or 3 for a lot of minutes that has Paul's tool box?
What is the lineup you want to see with Paul at the 2 or 3? It will either be a terrible offensive team or a terrible defensive team.
Baker and Paul will be extremely challeged defensively (forget about adding Hyatt or Jones)
Miller and Paul won't score
That all isn't on him....how many times has he gotten in to the paint in a great position to pass and looking to pass to others and no one cuts.
A bit disappointed in PM this year... he was shooting too much.. he put up weak stuff.. doesn't finish strong at all.. try to finish strong and get blocked is one thing.. but to get weak-*** junk blocked.. unforgivable.. but the problem is much deeper than PM.. he and others have had the ball at top of arc, dribbling.. looking for players to pass to and no one is moving.. no one is making themselves available as outlets, etc..
The players OFF THE BALL are to blame for much of our offensive woes.
Now.. sometimes you see players who are just not looking to pass... Caleb was the early season offender.. PM too at times.. they took up the mantle of Young and Mathis in that regard. But now RHJ is doing it.. with 2-3 guys on him as he gets near the hoop. It is disgusting.
The players OFF THE BALL are to blame for much of our offensive woes.
Now.. sometimes you see players who are just not looking to pass... Caleb was the early season offender.. PM too at times.. they took up the mantle of Young and Mathis in that regard. But now RHJ is doing it.. with 2-3 guys on him as he gets near the hoop. It is disgusting.
Off ball movement is also a problem, but they are mostly staring waiting for Paul to do something.
Paul was also a more effective 3 point shooter from the corners and he doesn't seem to be in those spots as mu h this year since he is on the ball up top
Paul was also a more effective 3 point shooter from the corners and he doesn't seem to be in those spots as mu h this year since he is on the ball up top
If our rational is Paul should play the 3 because he can make 40% of wide open 3s from the corner we have reverted back to Issa Thaim days where there were default minutes at the 3.
Paul has been asked to do more. I wouldn’t leave him on an island bringing the ball up but he can do good things starting the offense and also off the ball. I think he and staff will figure it out.
He’s not a point guard either. Tired of seeing him dribble half the shot clock away and then picking up his dribble in the lane with no where to go with ball.
My two cents about Paul is that if he had made some of his shots this year much of this talk about his position wouldn't exist. I think he should be with Geo and Caleb, with all three on the court at the same time, or two of the three, with the other one getting a blow. Paul needs to shoot and be confident with his shot. He's missed a lot of chippies and he needs to put up those shots in the lane that he's been passing out of. He should also take the foul line jumpers that he gets in the offense. Finally, he isn't as bad of a defender as some here make him out to be. PG is his best position.
SHU quicker team than Purdue
I always feel bad for the guy who PM passes to with 5 secs on the shotclock. Everyone blames that person for taking bad shot.
If I’m coaching the other team and I see Paul is bringing the ball up, I’m pressuring the ball every time. As soon as he has pressure in his face he goes back to the defender to protect the ball which takes away half of the floor, usually ends up having to extend the offense out much further than it should be, and usually ends up using a lot of time before even making the first pass of the possession.
Play him down low as a 6th or 7th man
Let him fight for rebounds. Loose balls and help double team guys.
On offense he’s in the corner, and cutting to the basket.
He may be a point guard, but he’s better at doing something else
Let him fight for rebounds. Loose balls and help double team guys.
On offense he’s in the corner, and cutting to the basket.
He may be a point guard, but he’s better at doing something else
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You could say this about anyone. If all our players made more of their shots we might be undefeated right now.
The solution to his being a bad shooter isn’t to just chuck up a shot whenever he gets the ball. At a certain point he’s just being left open because he’s not a threat to score.
Not to mention the pull up jumper isn’t part of his repertoire
I'm not saying that he should "chuck" up shots, but that he should take the open shots that he's been passing up. And it's not that the other team is leaving him alone. These are shots that are foul line and in that he creates by himself or off a pick. I just think that he's capable of scoring 8 - 10 points a game. He needs to pull the trigger.
He shouldn’t take them period. He should be taking corner threes or open shots near the rim.
Mulcahy? He has 17 turnovers in 10 games and leads the team with 4.1 assists per game. He has a 2.4:1 A/TO ratio. Mulcahy had eight assists against Purdue.
I've only watched 5 minutes of Rutgers, and it wasn't even 5 consecutive minutes, so I don't know how he is defensively this season
The same can be said for most of the players on the team as not being a scoring threat.
He dribbles the shot clock down and dumps it on someone who is forced to chuck it. That’s a TO to me that doesn’t show up on stat sheet.
again.. that is not his fault. keep an eye on what everyone else on the team is doing as Paul is dribbling "half the shot clock away and then picking up his dribble in the lane with nowhere to go with ball".
The other players have to move.. have to set screens for each other.. have to present targets for Paul (or anyone else at point) to pass to.
It is his fault because the other team knows he is going to pass. The D is sitting on passing lanes because he is not a threat to score.
I see what everyone else is seeing. He doesn’t look to score and can’t get into the lanes. The D knows that.