Politi on Pikiell

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Isn't it closer to 30 or even 35 years of incompetence; except for the TY teams - what team was actually really good over the past 35 years. Wenzel teams ? up until now I'm not sure a bar existed; No, I don't think this coach is a long term answer - but jettisoning him after this season isn't exactly the message to try and recruit the next coach. To be continued....

Again, we all recognize pike has until at least march 2024 being the earliest hed get canned. But imo its an inevitably rather than a possibility

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

The tiny stuff is true the rest is hawk making stuff up again and presenting his speculation as fact. Hes also speculating that hobbs set it up

Not speculation FACT.....!!

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Hawk just implied Schiano could be to blame for Pikiells recruiting challenges…lol

He has some real wild thoughts haha. Most of which he needs to just internalize lol. I dont care that he posts them but rather that he posts them as if theyre facts backed with sources when its pretty much always pure untethered speculation

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Hawk just implied Schiano could be to blame for Pikiells recruiting challenges…lol

I am saying that alumni are supporting football and right now, it is not as much of a priority for the top donors to do what top donors do at the top schools.....and that's not debatable....

Can RU win at the levels RU fans believe is possible (NCAAs every year or 3 out of every 4 or 5 years), you have to recruit Top 100 to 150 kids......RU football does not recruit at this level, so it is somewhat difficult to expect RU hoops to be Ohio State, Michigan, when RU football isn't recruiting anywhere near that level......it has to be as important to the top donors to win consistently in basketball.....

 

[RU848789]

Hobbs has the handcuffs on for the basketball program and recruiting.....(that means no competitive recruiting for the better prospects....)..he helped facilitate the process to ensure this happened at Seton Hall, when Mike Rice was killing it in recruiting and started sweeping Seton Hall in his 1st 2 years (I think RU won 4 out of 5 on the heels of his 1st big recruiting class).

Seton Hall alumni whined and complained loud enough that they would be left behind and they set up the Isaiah Whitehead, Angel Delgado, Desi Rodriguez haul, that allowed them to rebuild under a struggling to survive Kevin Willard.....Willard was going to be out of a job and was forced to hire Isaiah Whiteheads HC coach, Tiny Morton, as a condition for his verbal commitment.

I don't quite understand how this common knowledge about Hobbs is missed here....Hobbs set up the ability to allow Willard and their coaches to secure those very good prospects from NYC etc and to hire Morton......St John's declined to hire Morton as the condition to land Whitehead, who preferred St Johns.......Tiny Morton barely even worked for SHU and quit after less than a year and returned to his NYC teaching position.....partly because he was asked to go back and really had no interest in being an assistant, other than the salary he would collect from SHU and partly because he wanted to retain his pension by returning to NYC....he worked less than 9 months at Seton Hall.

Hobbs has to allow the assistant coaches a fair fight to recruit the kids needed to compete at this level. It is not rocket-science.....the onus is on Hobbs or potentially Schiano, depending on who ultimately people believe is in charge....when coaches and HS coaches and AAU coaches and everyone says "it's difficult to compete at Rutgers", it's not facilities, lack of home court advantage, lack of fan support, lack of playing great competition..

It comes down to players, plain and simple....and until RU allows their coaches to consistently compete on the recruiting trail, RU is being asked to bring a butter knife to a gun fight......

Hawk - love 99.9% of your posts - this is in the 0.1%. It's simply nuts to believe that Hobbs is holding back RU hoops recruiting for any reason (and to imply it's to prop up SHU and to imply Schiano is somehow invoved is ludicrous). Recruiting responsibility is almost all on Pike and his staff. I guess it's possible Hobbs isn't as active in hoops recruiting as he is in football recruiting, but no head coach should be relying much on the AD for recruiting, unless you're taking about basic financial support for travel and such (which seems very unlikely).

 

[zappaa]

I am saying that alumni are supporting football and right now, it is not as much of a priority for the top donors to do what top donors do at the top schools.....and that's not debatable....

Can RU win at the levels RU fans believe is possible (NCAAs every year or 3 out of every 4 or 5 years), you have to recruit Top 100 to 150 kids......RU football does not recruit at this level, so it is somewhat difficult to expect RU hoops to be Ohio State, Michigan, when RU football isn't recruiting anywhere near that level......it has to be as important to the top donors to win consistently in basketball.....

I know some of our larger boosters and donors, they are not influenced in the slightest by Hobbs and give their money to whatever sport they feel like.

 

[fluoxetine]

Hawk - love 99.9% of your posts - this is in the 0.1%. It's simply nuts to believe that Hobbs is holding back RU hoops recruiting for any reason (and to imply it's to prop up SHU and to imply Schiano is somehow invoved is ludicrous). Recruiting responsibility is almost all on Pike and his staff. I guess it's possible Hobbs isn't as active in hoops recruiting as he is in football recruiting, but no head coach should be relying much on the AD for recruiting, unless you're taking about basic financial support for travel and such (which seems very unlikely).

He's implying (or just saying really, it's not exactly subtle) that the athletic department needs to pony up $$$$$$$$$$$ to funnel to basketball recruits and/or their associates.

Edit: Or convince alumni/donors to do so.

 

[ru66]

Preach on…it’s excellent entertainment

preach,no truth

 

[RUTRINI_rivals]

What pikiell did on 5 short years at rutgers should earn him legend status. We should start calling him mother Theresa because of the miracle he performed.

most counted pikiell out after years 2 and 3. I will trust him now

And now everyone can see what you meant . Beat the No.1 team in America tonight.