thats true, he went from brightsiding to eye opening. I think he believed that guys like Jones and Hyatt and Miller would have been integrated into the rotation at as difference makers not as afterthoughts
GAME 6 MASSACHUSETTS: Turn out the lights, the party is over
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thats true, he went from brightsiding to eye opening. I think he believed that guys like Jones and Hyatt and Miller would have been integrated into the rotation at as difference makers not as afterthoughts
and playing two players 71 minutes on a team that is screaming for a shakeup and others to receive opportunity is right????
The guys that got you to that 72-57 lead was Cliff, Gonzales-Agee, and Jaden Jones, with Caleb/Paul playing dual PG, mysteriously gave Palmquist a 7 minute run in the 2nd half twice called for fouls on 3 point shooters, that is FIVE the last TWO games, while losing track of playing Hyatt. It frustrates me when Pike has a habit of pulling guys over a mistake defensively, doesn't matter how hot a hand they are offensively. Just ride the hot hands. He left in the 2 guys with the most TOs at the end, RHJ, struggled to finish the game, with 4 TOs and Mawot with 3 TOs out of 10 total. Mag did hit the big shot, but the substitution patterns were horrendous last 8 minutes and they still have no clue how to handle the zone, that's where we miss Myles, because he and Paul always handled zone busting at the top of the key. Honestly, Jones or Hyatt, athleticism, or Reiber, stretch 4 skills, could be ways to break that zone defense going forward. Paul seems to be the only guy who knows exactly what to do against the zone, everyone else looked so robotic and unprepared against zone.
I didn't watch the game (because I have a couple hundred better things to do), but I see from the box score that we shot 20% from 3-point range (again). I have to admit, continuing to force them up is a f---ing brilliant offensive strategy when literally everyone on the team is shooting 50% from inside the 3-point line.
EDIT: Could it be possible for maybe someone from the Math faculty to come over to the RAC and explain to Pike that if you take 10 shots and 50% of the time they go in, that will result in 10 points; but if you take 10 shots from 3 and 20% of the time they go, that's only 6 points.
EDIT: Could it be possible for maybe someone from the Math faculty to come over to the RAC and explain to Pike that if you take 10 shots and 50% of the time they go in, that will result in 10 points; but if you take 10 shots from 3 and 20% of the time they go, that's only 6 points.
I saw a shakeup. Hyatt being a DNP
we can’t have it both ways. The coach isn’t just sitting back doing nothing. He is benching people. Making Hyatt a 2nd half DNP is sending a message.
is it possible Paul and Caleb were most engaged? Maybe our best chance to win was playing them and not Jones and Hyatt. Coach wants to win bad. Yes he is too loyal, but I don’t think he has options right now.
some people are going to have to realize it is possible right now, not necessarily in a month, Hyatt and Jones are bad. More importantly they aren’t working hard enough defensively. Pikes actions make this crystal clear in conjunction with what I see on the court
people should take the star rankings and flush them in the the toilet
Wouldn’t best chance to win mean using his frosh point guard who’s defense he raved about in pre-season?
So is Miller a good defender or not?
I really can’t believe he is trying to redshirt Miller.
Does anyone redshirt their players these days other than big men?
We are all beyond frustrated with this early disastrous start, but there was some positives to take going forward. It is hard to tell because UMASS was and will be the worst defensive team we play all year because for like 32-35 minutes they were invisible and we did whatever we wanted . However , Caleb did a good job feeding the post and being a stat stuffer, 9 assists , 6 rebounds and 6 steals and 6 points. Bad free throw miss at 36 seconds but otherwise if we can get that out of him we will be good. Paul also had a better game distributing and made the big bucket with 4.6 seconds and did not air ball it . Both of them stopped doing what worked the last 5 minutes and playing high lo at the foul line but they were solid yesterday. .
Agee actually was efficient and got a couple of offensive rebounds , had 1 block, and we got 13 points from the backup center , which is real good . Again he played against almost invisible defense but nevertheless an encouraging sign.
Mag was really solid , offensively , defensively , on the boards and passing. He will be the best player after Cliff in that recruiting class and will help us in every game going forward.
We also got to see enough of Oscar to realize he needs to move down a level as he isn’t a catch and shoot guy and takes too long to get his shot off and is otherwise unproductive even against UMASS level defense , which was like playing against air.
Other than blowing a 15 point lead with 8 minutes to go (72-57) and leading by anywhere from 9-15 most of the game , yes a terrific collapse and horrible 3 point defense and their making like 3-4 from 30 feet , there is still a trickle of positives from yesterday.
Let’s hold off our team evaluations until after the Clemson game at the RAC on Tuesday where RU fans get an up close team observation.
Nick Honor plays guard for Clemson. Remember how he lit us up as a freshman at Fordham a few years back?
Nick Honor plays guard for Clemson. Remember how he lit us up as a freshman at Fordham a few years back?
I think he’s just really bad. Personally, I would have taken someone off the street and replaced McConnell with him at times, so I can’t think Miller could be worse. McConnell is Mathis-bad a lot.
It’s not possible to win at college basketball without shooting threes.
Jones was not bad shooting the ball and going to the hoop for putbacks...you are being ridiculous, he is a freshmen and now being judged harder than Caleb who by the way is 0-10 from 3, overplayed on D all day yesterday, is 4-10 at the line including missing the one and one which basically sealed the loss, but why he was out there in crunch time instead of Jones, well I guess the explanation is Jones is bad
and quite frankly the program should not be in such disarray that we are even criticizing Jones for missed defensive assignments
compared to what...the bar is really low
bottom line is he wasnt even close on a free throw with 35 seconds left which could have put RU up 3.
and its funny people are talking about the poor perimeter defense and somehow Jones is blamed even though most of UMass flurries came when he wasnt in...just who is responsible....
who wants Caleb in a late end game situation its playing 5 on 4.
FWIW Seton Hall is redshirting PG Ryan Conway. Of course, they have Kadary Richmond, Bryce Aiken, and Jared Rhoden on the roster.
Compared to anything. Nobody would be giving McConnell any **** for his performance yesterday if not for the other games this season. He was arguably our best player yesterday.
I don't know him at all but he was a guy from the hall I could like. He always seemed to have a great demeanor.
Thats pretty sad..did he do anything in the last 10 minutes of play...ooooh he made a baskets..break out the ice cream
The game is 40 minutes. You’re cherry picking to make him look bad.
He had 9 assists, 6 steals, 6 rebounds, and only 1 turnover. It’s absolutely ridiculous that you won’t admit he played well.
That is becoming more true. But the game we played in the paint would have been won by 15 or more if we played any 3 point defense and they did not hit a ridiculous %. If he misses, we win being outscored 45-9 from 3. So it is very possible to win without hitting a lot of 3’s but you better defend the 3. They shot abnormally well , and a normal night if they hit 7-8 we win by 20-25. Nothing wrong with the offensive game plan yesterday
Bac, I understand your frustration , we all are at how this season has started for Caleb but yesterday with his stat stuffing game was exactly how we want him to play except for the missed free throw. He was decisive with his passes for most of the game and rebounded like our guards should be rebounding. Your anger at Caleb is totally misplaced.
McConnell had 7 Ast/5 Stl/4 Reb/0 TO in the first half, and 2 Ast/0 Stl/2 Reb/1 TO in the second.
dont let one good half cloud your judgment while Umass rained down open 3s
dont let one good half cloud your judgment while Umass rained down open 3s
He had 1 turnover in 35 minutes and did not chunk up 3’s and got the ball upcourt and quickly passed to our pain t guys. You were not saying when we were up 72-57 with 8 minutes left, Caleb was having a bad game or a bad half. Common now.
All in all, he’s a net negative.
Defensive reserve specialist is what he should be limited to right now.
Of all his good stats most of them were in the first half and therefore don’t count? Wut?
There’s got to be some back story as to why Jalen Miller isn’t playing. A 6’3 3 star guard with 17 offers who is supposed to be a good defender with a handle can’t find minutes on a team that’s reeling?
Oh the game was on the line with 36 seconds
One and one..thats 2 points...did you watch the game?
But actually thats on Pikiell and his teammates in that situation for giving him the ball
He missed one free throw. I watched the game. It was an important free throw.
(1) If more people had played as well as McConnell that game he wouldn't have needed to make that FT
(2) We still should have won the game after that missed FT
You want to throw away his entire performance because he missed a FT with 36 seconds left? Come on.
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