Recruiting is a problem

Shell21

Heisman
Mar 23, 2004
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I like Pike, but believe that his coaching and recruiting philosophies needed to progressively evolve. They haven't.
Yep; I’ve said this in multiple threads . Kids don’t want to play in a boring offensive system where we don’t run anything and don’t push the tempo. Playing good d , rebounding and effort will only take you so far and we don’t even do that anymore
 

bethlehemfan

Heisman
Sep 6, 2003
15,112
16,398
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Yep; I’ve said this in multiple threads . Kids don’t want to play in a boring offensive system where we don’t run anything and don’t push the tempo. Playing good d , rebounding and effort will only take you so far and we don’t even do that anymore
We don’t have the players to push tempo.
 

Rutgers25

All-American
Jul 29, 2001
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Pike is toast, I know it's an early call but its all downhill from here. Zero recruiting = zero results.

And judging by the first 5 games there's zero coaching too.

the product has been so bad this year combined with the bad recruiting makes it hard to disagree. He’s going to have work hard to retain the few pieces we have in the off-season and hit the portal hard to survive
 
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jordkap

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Jul 11, 2016
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In all seriousness… Ron, Geo, Caleb, Reiber, Agee, Palmquist, Cliff, and Nathan could or will all be gone next year.

The only ones I fully expect back are Paul, Hyatt, Mag, Miller and Jaden.

If we don’t get 3-4 impact players next year we will be very bad
 

Joey Bags

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Sep 21, 2019
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the product has been so bad this year combined with the bad recruiting makes it hard to disagree. He’s going to have work hard to retain the few pieces we have in the off-season and hit the portal hard to survive
I wish it wasn't the case, really liked Pike but this plus the bizarre media crusade he went on in preseason about seals it for me.
 

Woody522

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Can someone explain to me why pike can recruit. I mean I know he got cliff and jaden.

But mag palmquist and reiber. Those guys shouldn't be Sniffing the big ten
 
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KNICKI

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Aug 14, 2006
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A lot of non big 10 players on the roster. Get some city kids that can ball. There are so many good basketball players in this area. Mag,Palm,& Reiher not even D1 players. Inexcusable to
not have a talented roster. The RAC deserves better than this listless team
 

MCKnight

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Oct 25, 2012
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Transfer portal will be his only way to fix recruiting fast. He will have to change his approach fast. RU will have plenty of playing time and shots to be taken next year. Next year core could be Paul, Cliff, Hyatt and Jones. Assuming none of them leave and ya Never can say never. pike could legit offer two transfers starter minutes just from lack of a roster
 

Shelby65

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Apr 1, 2008
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A lot of non big 10 players on the roster. Get some city kids that can ball. There are so many good basketball players in this area. Mag,Palm,& Reiher not even D1 players. Inexcusable to
not have a talented roster. The RAC deserves better than this listless team
nah...mag is a high D1 backup for sure and the other 2 are legit bench guys on low D1.but they should not be getting minutes for a B1G team
 

biazza38

Heisman
Nov 18, 2012
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This is actually wild. How the heck do you make the NCAA tournament and turn it into a train wreck 5 games into the next season.
Usually when you win, talent follows. No one wants to play for this garbage offensive style.
51 points against Lafayette. Wow.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Dec 30, 2005
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In all seriousness… Ron, Geo, Caleb, Reiber, Agee, Palmquist, Cliff, and Nathan could or will all be gone next year.

The only ones I fully expect back are Paul, Hyatt, Mag, Miller and Jaden.

If we don’t get 3-4 impact players next year we will be very bad
If that scenario plus cliff happens I am extremely bullish for next year. Beyond excited.
 

jerzeyguy

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May 18, 2008
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He doesn't have the charisma or go getter attitude to recruit. Much as he's loved - he's gonna make it really hard (2 yrs from now) to keep him. Overmatched rosters can't be acceptable in the B10
 

BigEastPhil

Heisman
Nov 25, 2007
19,181
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You need a top notch assistant who can attract kids as well. We don't have that type of assistant - nor do we have an offense that will attract kids.

Still amazed that we don't have a zone busting shooter or a PG.
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
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He doesn't have the charisma or go getter attitude to recruit. Much as he's loved - he's gonna make it really hard (2 yrs from now) to keep him. Overmatched rosters can't be acceptable in the B10
Are you really saying this 5 games after making the tournament the 1st time since 1991?
 

willisneverrana43

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Jul 26, 2001
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at least 3 players need to be pushed out the door
The real bad signs occur if the team starts leaking at the sides—that is, not only is the recruiting of new talent bad, but we start losing the good ones that we already had—e.g., Cliff, maybe Jones. Heck, you could argue that this has already been happening with Eugene, Myles, Young, etc.
 

kcg88

Heisman
Aug 11, 2017
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Pikiell has to change his transfer portal approach if recruiting is going to continue like this. I don't want to hear that everyone only talks about how many points they're gonna score. We need guys who can score and managing egos is in the job description.
 

Mr. Magoo1

Heisman
Nov 15, 2001
15,475
16,324
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Pikiell has to change his transfer portal approach if recruiting is going to continue like this. I don't want to hear that everyone only talks about how many points they're gonna score. We need guys who can score and managing egos is in the job description.
I don’t think Pike is the guy for managing egos. He seems to coddle certain players and the chemistry has been an issue for a few years now. He appears to be too concerned with being their friend when he is the adult in the room.
 

kcg88

Heisman
Aug 11, 2017
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I don’t think Pike is the guy for managing egos. He seems to coddle certain players and the chemistry has been an issue for a few years now. He appears to be too concerned with being their friend when he is the adult in the room.
I'm hopeful this changes after the year.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

All-Conference
Aug 5, 2001
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Forwards-8
Oskar Palmquist 6'8 220
Mawot Mag 6'7 216
Paul Mulcahy 6'6 213
Aundre Hyatt 6'6 227
Dean Reiber 6'10'225
Caleb McConnell 6'6 200
Ron Harper 6'6 245
Jaden Jones 6'8 220

Guards-2
Geo Baker 6'4" 1'85
Jalen Miller 6'2 200

Centers-3
Cliff Omoruyi 6'11 245
Ralph Agee Gonzales 6'8 245? Maybe forward
Luke Nathan 6"11" 240

We wonder why we are offensively challenged?
You can sell me all the talk BIG guard, versatile player, blah, blah, blah, this and that, we are a tall clunky Wing heavy team with little depth at guard or center. There is a reason why FB player play one position in HS and get moved to another in college, All I see is an over balance in Forwards pretending to be other positions they aren't.

Only solution is design A 1 Guard 3 Forward 1 Center offensive system Ohio St and Mich St has been successful with over the years.
 
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RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
26,216
12,477
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Pikiell has to change his transfer portal approach if recruiting is going to continue like this. I don't want to hear that everyone only talks about how many points they're gonna score. We need guys who can score and managing egos is in the job description.
Spot on comment.Scoring is the most important part of a basketball game.Top tier recruits expect to play right away and if that makes players on the current roster upset ,then improve your performance or sit on the bench.
 
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biazza38

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Nov 18, 2012
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Spot on comment.Scoring is the most important part of a basketball game.Top tier recruits expect to play right away and if that makes players on the current roster upset ,then improve your performance or sit on the bench.
Thank god we didn’t upset any of the guys part of this train wreck. I’d hate to do that. It’s pretty evident now why JY and Tez left