1000 percent right...You don't overhelp like that one pass away and his man was even like 1/2 pass away it was that close. Not sure I understand why Ron was sitting so far back in help when his man was so close to the man with the ball. His responsibility isn't lane and drive protection there; it should be the weak side rotating over.
The last 25 seconds (RHJ)
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1000 percent right...You don't overhelp like that one pass away and his man was even like 1/2 pass away it was that close. Not sure I understand why Ron was sitting so far back in help when his man was so close to the man with the ball. His responsibility isn't lane and drive protection there; it should be the weak side rotating over.
Yes, Ron was too far from his man when the last shot was taken
I don’t think that had anything to do with his celebrating his own shot, since the winning shot was a good 30 seconds of play later
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I also just went back and watched and he like, barely even celebrated?
From my viewpoint, Lafayette’s big set a ball screen on Mag which led to Cliff switching onto the ball handler and Mag following their big who was rolling to the basket. Harper was anticipating a pass to the big who would have probably had a pretty easy look with Mag guarding him and took a step that way which put him a step too far from his man to close out on the three.
It took me weeks to get over that loss. Thats how much I lived and died with RU hoops in the early to mid 90s. Last night I just laughed
Harper takes all the criticism, while Geo plays like crap and still called a warrior by the RU faithful.
Pike backed the wrong horse in the Young vs Baker sweepstakes last season.
The worst is yet to come for this team.
Pike backed the wrong horse in the Young vs Baker sweepstakes last season.
The worst is yet to come for this team.
Soooo are you saying I said RHJ didn't make a mistake.....LMAO.....do you read or is that too difficult.
Let me slow it down for you....just so you understand it....you are in the blame game for some and deflect for others....if you play 40 minutes of basketball and want to isolate the last play and say RU lost because it's RHJs fault, because of a breakdown during the last possession.....?? You are within your right to pin that on RHJ if you seem inclined to do...
What you ultimately fail at consistently in trying to debate sports (specifically basketball) is you base things on stats or number crunching and remove context of how stats are generated.
So to simplify it for you, let's ask the question this way......RU wins how many more games if RHJ is not on this year's roster.....?? Is it 2.....?? 3......?? If you have an adequate replacement for RHJ, let's see what that player does in his minutes, as the primary scoring option and focal point of an opponents game plan.
You also have to give me a comparable college junior or senior player that you think is better, that is actually 21 years old, not some retread 2 or 3 time transfer or some 24 or 25 yesr old grown man, on other rosters around the country.
A little knowledge goes a long way my friend......
What is your evidence of backing the wrong horse....?? So, you think Jacob Young was forced off Olde Queens Island of RU basketball, because he couldn't compete with Geo Baker??? LMAO
How about trying to ask yourself, why Jacob Young left.....maybe he didn't feel like he needed to defer minutes to anyone else named Caleb McConnell, Montez Mathis or Paul Mulcahy.....Jacob Young played more minutes than all 3 guards and as many as Baker in general....
Young left because he was not going to be better than Geo Baker at closing games and was not the face of the program??
Let's confirm exactly what your referring to....it is comedy that RU fans continue to cry about a 6th year senior player, who would not have any eligibility left, if not for covid......what player worth his salt, plays a 6th year of college hoops....Cmon man, do better.....
I don’t understand this. Was Pike supposed to kick Baker off the team or something?
He could have not taken Jacob out of the lineup after the Penn State game and give Geo favored status despite the fact that one plays hard 95% of the time and the other no where near as much.
Chemistry problems with Eugene. Chemistry problems with Jacob. Why couldn’t Geo get along with Jacob? It was obvious Jacob and Geo didn’t mesh.
Yeah that wasn’t what I was saying. “Tell me the LAST POSSESSION wasn’t Ron’s fault” could not be any clearer (and easier to read).
You said
“instead of taking shots at RHJ, why don't we hold everyone accountable....???
Harper is 21 years old, 3 or 4 year starter playing with a bunch of new pieces, who are simply over their skis right now.....why is that Ron's fault??”
I didn’t call out losing the game being Ron’s fault. I responded to an OP ABOUT THE LAST 25 seconds (setting this straight so you can understand how to read thread titles) about a play we should hold Ron accountable for. Just because you stray off topic doesn’t mean anyone else is…
I don’t understand how him making a lineup adjustment is him “backing Geo over Young” though. He didn’t replace Young in the starting lineup with Geo.
Correct. Also Young played one MORE minute in the Indiana game vs the Penn State game.
Geo replaced Jacob after the Penn State game
But how did Geo replace him? They both started the Penn State game, as well as the five games prior.
They were also both on the floor for the last five minutes of the Indiana game you just posted.
This is an excellent post . It happened rarely but Pike not having Ron at the foul line against the zone all day; to allow him to shoot or drive or alley oop to Cliff which he did 1 time was a mistake , especially since no one else did it when Ron did not. That led to the ridiculous 3 point chunking 26 times. Granted almost all were open but were shots taken by our guys that don’t shoot them well or were clearly having an historically bad night . The game could have been won by carving up the zone inside and getting more points on the paint. There were so many empty scoreless one and out possessions . Part of the lack of offensive rebounding were some threes were air balls and hit the other side of the backboard and did not bounce long like 3’s normally do , but the other ones it appeared we did not attempt to hit the glass hard when they only had that 1 big guy.
Ron has been carrying the team but he was a little off last night and maybe health had something to do with it. He was trying to help on the last sequence but he still made a mistake and left too much room as the kid had a totally uncontested shot that he was too far away from to close out.
However, there were lots of other players not playing well or smart. They hit 7-19 from 3 but we fouled their redhead shooter3 times (Hyatt 2 times , Reiber 1x)after he released the ball and not letting him land , and he hit 8 of9 foul shots. Caleb took and shot 5 of the worst shots prolonging his funk. Jaden tried to just shoot , not in rhythm and was 1-6 and his defense is atrocious , he is not even in proper defensive stance as it appears he played AAU without any coaching . Pike has to teach him , which might be the first time he has been taught it. Geo before his injury again was too passive and did not try to drive inside the zone , as was content to pass around the perimeter until they got a 3. Lots of other people to blame for the slow start. A lot of things that are correctable
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Right, the difference in starting lineup between Penn St and Indiana was
Jacob and Montez out
Paul and Caleb in
Geo started both games. So Jacob was replaced by either Paul or Caleb, not Geo.
minutia....Geo for Jacob fits my narrative s I am sticking with it. I have seen facts twisted before (not talking Rutgers basketball) I am going to give it a whirl.
Geo was replaced with jacob!!!!!!!!!
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What if anything is going on with:
1. Jones (why not more playing time)
2. Miller (MiA: Miller inaction)
Thanks!
MO
I think it’s obvious why Jones does not get more playing time - Defense. He has not been very good there. I noticed this in his high school tape. What I’m surprised about is that Pike has not fixed that yet. Maybe he does not buy in or maybe he’s not capable (worse). He need to really work on that and also look to rebound more.
IMO you are wrong there....JY had a problem with the HC....he thought he should have been taking the last 3 or 4 shots at the end of the Houston game. etc
You realize the Penn State game was our 5th straight loss, right?
And after PSU we won the next 4 games. And won 5 of the next 6 games.
You realize this, right?
Yes, but why are you asking me. You should ask Jacob.
jacob and Montez needed reprogramming offensively. Jacob got the message. Montez never really did.
last 2 years we had 2 stretches where we played line complete garbage. The hope is this is just one of those stretches.
I’m asking because you said “he could not have taken Jacob out of the lineup….”
Taking Jacob out of the lineup actually helped save the season last year (just look at that 9 game stretch).
I agree Jacob figured it out and got the message and earned his time back, but if it wasn’t for taking him out he may not have gotten the message.
The irony is down the stretch the things that got Jacob benched ended up being tolerated and actually saved us the season.