Does Boone even know MJ is on that team??? He doesn’t mention him in his explanation. Pretty embarrassing miss for a CBS article like this.
Kyle Boone - UCLA most overrated team
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I don’t think it was bad, it is not a deep evaluation of each team. Being ranked 2nd is probably high.
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That would be fine if he didn’t go as far in the analysis as to say “they added a five star recruit to a team that returns every meaningful player but there’s nothing else to justify their ranking”. That’s going pretty deep into it isn’t it?
basically the equivalent of either a) saying that adding MJ is meaningless to UCLA’s ranking or b) simply not knowing he was added.
regardless it’s a bad take to dub them the most overrated team in the country.
It’s not like they played nobody - they lost in OT to the national champ to end their season and had to beat Alabama and Michigan along the way. They are now adding the starting center from a solid NCAA team along with a 5 star recruit (who cares what their seed was in a covid year where players were missing on and off) they lost 10 games total and outside the very first game of the season only lost once by double digits.
basically the equivalent of either a) saying that adding MJ is meaningless to UCLA’s ranking or b) simply not knowing he was added.
regardless it’s a bad take to dub them the most overrated team in the country.
It’s not like they played nobody - they lost in OT to the national champ to end their season and had to beat Alabama and Michigan along the way. They are now adding the starting center from a solid NCAA team along with a 5 star recruit (who cares what their seed was in a covid year where players were missing on and off) they lost 10 games total and outside the very first game of the season only lost once by double digits.
Is Myles projected to start? He would be better off the bench to keep him off the free throw line. Also keeps him on the bench at the end of games unless he is need for defense. He could also come in and foul a point guard 30 feet from the basket if they need to give fouls. My guess is he is a 10 min a game player which he will like very much.
Cody Riley, a redshirt senior, might get the start ahead of Myles in the beginning of season, but he's not a scorer and Johnson's rebounding and D might put Myles in a position to play equal minutes along with starting when Cronin thinks he's a better option .
Cody started 31 games last season and averaged 23 minutes per game while delivering 10.points and 5.4 rebounds per game
UCLA should have lost in the play-in round if Michigan State didn’t choke. If they did, you’d probably see Myles at USC, or maybe Stanford. right now.
Then UCLA got very hot. However, they do rely a lot on the mid-range game, and that can go cold at times. Definitely one of the Final Four favorites this year, especially with Myles, but my gut says they don’t make it. Still, a very solid Top 10 team.
Then UCLA got very hot. However, they do rely a lot on the mid-range game, and that can go cold at times. Definitely one of the Final Four favorites this year, especially with Myles, but my gut says they don’t make it. Still, a very solid Top 10 team.
I don’t follow most teams unless they somehow interacted with Rutgers. With
that, I don’t see how Houston can lose kids like Grimes and Jarreau and still be a preseason top 15 team.
UCLA is overrated at #2 however they're very, very good. But as another posted said, if they lose to Michigan State what are they rated even if the offseason goes the same way? Top 15, sure, I buy that. Remember they got to face a #14 seed on their path and also nearly lost to both Alabama and Michigan.
As for Houston, it's institutional trust in Kelvin Sampson. They've been a top 15 team for 4 or 5 straight seasons. They also added a really good guard from Texas Tech.
As for Houston, it's institutional trust in Kelvin Sampson. They've been a top 15 team for 4 or 5 straight seasons. They also added a really good guard from Texas Tech.
Yes - they could’ve lost to Michigan State. But they didn’t. They went on to beat Alabama, Michigan, and take Gonzaga to the wire. So it’s not like they didn’t play anyone good along that run. They return everyone meaningful from their team that went to the finals, and also add the most important player (MJ) from a round of 32 tourney team along with a 5 star recruit. Sure you could nitpick a few teams that could start ranked ahead of them, but they are indesputably loaded with talent and MJ is a huge addition for them.
Houston returns 4 of its top 6 scorers, added Kyler Edwards (Texas Tech) who should start. Also, they added Josh Carlton (UConn). They've also added some good freshmen plus they have Kelvin Sampson
The first point is misleading. Grimes gave them 17.8 ppg and 5.7 rpg. Without him, Houston was no where near a top 15 team in my opinion last year. Granted Im basing this in large part on our game which would’ve been a blow out in our favor without Grimes.
Edwards is perhaps an even exchange for Jarreau. Carlton averaged 11 mins on UConn. His addition means very little from a pre season hype perspective. It’s no different from us added Agee.
Yea do we have to post every single UCLA basketball post to this board.
Frankly, I couldn't care less if Johnson averages 1 point and 1 rebound per game there or 50 and 50. He left us. Of his own choice. I don't care if he even plays. But now we have the UCLA posts crowding a board predominantly for RU.
I hope UCLA and Johnson don't even make the NCAA tournament.
Frankly, I couldn't care less if Johnson averages 1 point and 1 rebound per game there or 50 and 50. He left us. Of his own choice. I don't care if he even plays. But now we have the UCLA posts crowding a board predominantly for RU.
I hope UCLA and Johnson don't even make the NCAA tournament.
You are not wrong. Yes, he’s a stand-up guy, but he and Young chose to bail. He’s absolutely no different than Young. He didn’t need UCLA and would do extremely well in life regardless. He could have gotten his master’s here and I’m sure he would have if he was in love with this team and school like we hoped he would have been.
Myles is an excellent defensive player but he fouls too much. On offense, he's pretty much a liability especially at the free throw line. I don't think Pike was joking when he said Rutgers will have their best 5 spot since hes been here.
I don’t care about UCLA one way or the other either. On this one I was more thinking about media perception in general. If MJ had stayed at Rutgers there’s no question we’d be a consensus pre-season ranked team on everyone’s ballot. It’s weird that the talking heads figure him for a mere benchwarmer over there.
Young was mostly a disappointment at Texas, so IMO, no. He didn’t seem to be a big part of their plans. Last season, Young and Myles were the two MVPs on a tournament team that arguably would have been preseason Top 10 - 15 if they had returned. Big Difference.
Myles just needs to be taken out before he gets winded. He puts a lot of effort into bounding and defense and tires quickly also running the floor in a transition offense.. just take him out before he begins to reach without moving his feet.
Seven months ago Quentin Grimes and Houston hurt your feelings.
Grimes is gone, so Houston sucks.
Does that pretty much sum it up?
I don't know what happened to Josh Carlton last season but in the two previous seasons he started every game he appeared in. Carlton made 60 percent of his shots during his sophomore season and 50 percent in his junior season. He is a capable rim protector and he gets OREB. It's a lot different than Rutgers getting Agee.
Michael Jordan missed too many shots in his career. You don't get steals and blocks without getting close to people and then possibly fouling them.
Myles is going to look incredible at UCLA. With Mick Cronin’s “hold onto your man’a jersey and let the refs be scared to call it defense,” he’ll barely have to waste energy on defense. I’m expecting him to be in DPOY conversations and probably be improved offensively in P&R situations.
Weak Bubble! ;-) Phrase which should permanently be banned.
I hear you. I’m sure they will still be one of the better teams in their conference but I’ll still be surprised to see them end up a top 4ish seed next year (15th best team). I think they take a pretty big step back in talent.