Thanks for great responses to the first thread. It was locked. I just want to point out that the Prudential Center (Devils, SHU) now has a policy that if you show your vaccination card, you can attend without a mask. If you are not vaccinated, you must wear a mask unless eating and drinking. All kids under 12 must wear a mask when not eating. Does this make sense? Thanks for the discussion. $$$$
The RAC and Masks Part 2
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It makes sense but J. Holloway won’t go for it. Kind of a non issue though unless they decide they’re sending security to the 300 level to enforce the mask policy.
It's a whole load of nothing to me. Nobody will enforce any mask mandate once you're in your seats
How are they supposed to differentiate vaccinated vs. not vaccinated once you’re in the building? Are they going to hand out wristbands? The unvaccinated will just not wear masks and blend in because they don’t give a crap about anyone else. Even if there was actually someone enforcing the mask policy the people would just be “eating” or “drinking” the entire time. Might as well have no policy if only some need to wear masks. And then there will a lot of people uncomfortable attending an event.
that would seem to disclose vaccination status of fans, if followed to a T.
but I have no faith in people to follow this, given how unfortunately political vaccinations have become, and I'm sure there there will be a proportion of nonvaccinated who wear a mask to get in and take it off once seated. Not sure how arena staff can enforce, and I can see a reluctance by staff (see flight attendants).
but I have no faith in people to follow this, given how unfortunately political vaccinations have become, and I'm sure there there will be a proportion of nonvaccinated who wear a mask to get in and take it off once seated. Not sure how arena staff can enforce, and I can see a reluctance by staff (see flight attendants).
Half of that security staff would have heart attacks schlepping up there
What about the fans who are fully vaccinated but it has been more than 5 months since their vaccination and they haven't received a booster?
What about the fans who had COVID-19 and now have natural antibodies?
This whole thing is just so...
What about the fans who had COVID-19 and now have natural antibodies?
This whole thing is just so...
I go to volleyball at The RAC and it’s no big deal either way. Just go to the games and enjoy yourselves.
Based on strong ticket sales, the lack of a vaccination requirement doesn't seem to be dissuading many from attending. I suspect the overwhelming majority in attendance will be among the inoculated, which is a good thing.
If I could trust non-vaxxed people to keep their masks on, yes it would make sense. But how would that be policed? Those who aren’t vaxxed are much more likely to flaunt the rules. I’ve got kids who I usually take to games who aren’t eligible for the vaccine yet.
So the first thread was locked so we start another thread and then its going down the same path.
First person posts, next guy says how Holloway is a sheep, then the next guy goes how do we enforce it. We get it guys, it's controversial, do we need to discuss it every day.
First person posts, next guy says how Holloway is a sheep, then the next guy goes how do we enforce it. We get it guys, it's controversial, do we need to discuss it every day.
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The vaccinated wont wear masks either. I know of several including myself
This thread shouldn't be locked because its something that we will encounter everytime we go to the RAC
The policy with the Rock is they wouldn't have to so it really wasn't relevant in this case but I don't necessarily disagree with you. I'm vaccinated and wear a mask when I go to the store, take the train to the city, and will if required to at the RAC but I'm pissed that I still have to since if more had gotten vaccinated when it became available I wouldn't have to. The trouble with the vaccinated refusing to wear a masks is that is gives cover for the unvaccinated to walk among everyone else unmasked, perpetuating this pandemic and all the things that come with it. If the mask requirement is strictly on an unverified honor system, it basically doesn't exist.
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People should be aware that ~1% at most of all individuals infected with the virus who are presymptomatic/asymptomatic actually spread the virus, and even then the viral load is significantly lower. I'm assuming that's what people are concerned about? You aren't going to the game if you have the virus. The symptomatic stage is rough, even in "mild" cases and that's where the vast, vast majority of transmission occurs. This isn't the cold, or allergies. It's also not airborne like smallpox and measles.
RU should either not have a mask requirement and people can do whatever makes them most comfortable, or have a universal mask requirement. Keep in mind the actual NJ case rate at the time of the 2020 Maryland home game likely would have been in the 2-4k a day range if we had the testing then as we do now, which is more than double our current case rate. Obviously if the whole stadium caught it after the Maryland game it would have been a case study.
RU should either not have a mask requirement and people can do whatever makes them most comfortable, or have a universal mask requirement. Keep in mind the actual NJ case rate at the time of the 2020 Maryland home game likely would have been in the 2-4k a day range if we had the testing then as we do now, which is more than double our current case rate. Obviously if the whole stadium caught it after the Maryland game it would have been a case study.
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Big difference when there's gonna be 8K jam-packed into one of the HOTTEST venues in the nation. Being out in Indianapolis, in a 20,000 seat arean 20% full and a cavernous dome, about the same, was bad enough with a mask on cheering for 2-straight hours. I can't even imagine the kind of sweat/smutz that's gonna be between people's masks and faces 10-minute into a game at a packed RAC lol!!!
Sip on a beer or white claw all game long
My take is people will be allowed to do whatever they want
Will Steve even make it to the first media timeout before his face covering becomes a chin strap?
Oh my mask was off 75% of the game in Indianapolis, both games, trust me!
Time for venues to be put in sections.( tongue-in-cheek)
A section for vaxed only ( proof required, of course)
Sub section ( plexiglassdivided) for those unvaxed that can show a negative Covid19 test result in the last 24 hours in which choice of wearing a mask is up to the individuel
Another section for for those unvaxed willing to wear masks
And a section (plexiglass enclosed) for those unvaxed that feel their freedom is in jeopardy if buy ticket to sit in masked zone. Their freedom is at stake and arrangements to be with other freedom loving unvaxed people must be made.
So give them their own section , but to enter they must sign a health waiver that absolves the venue for any and every illness they might get after going to that venue and sitting in the "not me" section.
Like or dislike my idea, as a wise bunch once said:
Here come old flat top
He come grooving up slowly
He got joo joo eyeball
He one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
He wear no shoe shine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca-Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together, right now, over me
He bag production
He got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together, right now, over me
He roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one mojo filter
He say, "one and one and one is three"
Got to be good looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together, right now, over me
A section for vaxed only ( proof required, of course)
Sub section ( plexiglassdivided) for those unvaxed that can show a negative Covid19 test result in the last 24 hours in which choice of wearing a mask is up to the individuel
Another section for for those unvaxed willing to wear masks
And a section (plexiglass enclosed) for those unvaxed that feel their freedom is in jeopardy if buy ticket to sit in masked zone. Their freedom is at stake and arrangements to be with other freedom loving unvaxed people must be made.
So give them their own section , but to enter they must sign a health waiver that absolves the venue for any and every illness they might get after going to that venue and sitting in the "not me" section.
Like or dislike my idea, as a wise bunch once said:
Here come old flat top
He come grooving up slowly
He got joo joo eyeball
He one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
He wear no shoe shine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca-Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together, right now, over me
He bag production
He got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together, right now, over me
He roller coaster
He got early warning
He got muddy water
He one mojo filter
He say, "one and one and one is three"
Got to be good looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together, right now, over me
Thank you for this thread guys. The mask policy bothers me a lot but this has convinced me to buy so expect another maniac in the stands now. Go RU
I don't even know why a mask requirement exists at this point.
Every week I see packed football stadiums, I know they are outdoors, but 50-110K people per stadium without masks on are enjoying the games. Cheering and booing and these stadiums aren't turning into super spreader events.
Same with baseball stadiums going back to the spring.
Let people go to basketball and hockey games and have fun.
Every week I see packed football stadiums, I know they are outdoors, but 50-110K people per stadium without masks on are enjoying the games. Cheering and booing and these stadiums aren't turning into super spreader events.
Same with baseball stadiums going back to the spring.
Let people go to basketball and hockey games and have fun.
Being vaccinated will, in most instances, prevent you from having severe symptoms or dying. It won’t prevent you from getting COVID and being a carrier (although the period in which you will be a carrier is shortened) and spreading it to an unvaccinated person such as a child. FACT.
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I might make fun of the people who claim their freedom is being taken away by mask mandates and I do wear one , even though vaccinated, when out and about.
But take off when at a restaurant dining indoors.
But can't see mask wearing being mandated at restaurants or sports venues and saying you can have masks off when you eat /drink
Those places should be able to set their own rules and have those that go there know its at their own peril .
Let the arena/stadium /restaurant set their own mask standards and if ( small but always a chance) sued by someone claiming to catch the virus there , deal with it through their insurance or business itself be held libel if lose a lawsuit against that place.
When a place allows people to take off masks for one reason or another, the effectiveness of masks being protection go down a lot.
Make it masks up all the time or no masks if you don't want and the attendee beware
Also if someone goes to a venue that doesn't require masks, they should lose the right to sue the place if they catch something they think caught at the place they went
But take off when at a restaurant dining indoors.
But can't see mask wearing being mandated at restaurants or sports venues and saying you can have masks off when you eat /drink
Those places should be able to set their own rules and have those that go there know its at their own peril .
Let the arena/stadium /restaurant set their own mask standards and if ( small but always a chance) sued by someone claiming to catch the virus there , deal with it through their insurance or business itself be held libel if lose a lawsuit against that place.
When a place allows people to take off masks for one reason or another, the effectiveness of masks being protection go down a lot.
Make it masks up all the time or no masks if you don't want and the attendee beware
Also if someone goes to a venue that doesn't require masks, they should lose the right to sue the place if they catch something they think caught at the place they went
Pandemic is OVER for vaccinated folks. Your chance of going to the host if vaccinated is .00001%. Right Holloway?
Not to mention 75% of people wear “masks” that don’t do s*** in terms of protecting others. The crappy cloth masks people get at target don’t protect you OR others. If RU is actually gonna follow through with a mask requirement they better be requiring N95/KN95s
Got season tickets.
I will not be attending until my little one is vaccinated.
Family first.
Loyal
The whole country ditched masks last February/March. I can’t believe anyone is still talking about this.
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