If the Big Ten Adds Two schools, who do you want? Assume that ACC schools are not available for 15 years. Also assume no PAC 12 schools.
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If the Big Ten Adds Two Schools
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I’ll take none of them
stand pat with those choices
stand pat with those choices
So stupid. Women's volleyball takes another plane ride, and athletes miss more classes. So unnecessary.
This is part of the hole in my argument that players shouldn't get paid (NIL) why my take that athletes shouldn't.
If this was really about academics and athletics Rutgers could be in a conference in all sports except football where every game was a bus ride
This is part of the hole in my argument that players shouldn't get paid (NIL) why my take that athletes shouldn't.
If this was really about academics and athletics Rutgers could be in a conference in all sports except football where every game was a bus ride
I also would prefer to stay put. 14 is enough as far as I am concerned. I don't think any of the schools would meet the BIG 10 requirements for academics. Notre Dame never wanted the BIG so let them go scratch.
None of these. Only UNC, UVA, ND, or Ga.Tech if I could get any (which is extremely doubtful). I would take Kansas only if it comes in with one of the others I mentioned. Kansas by itself and you might as well just add Villanova.
Except this is false.
Back in the day Notre Dame very much wanted to be in the B1G but the conference rejected them several times over the course of three decades, largely due to the prejudice of Michigan head coach Fielding Yost.
So, Notre Dame remained independent but still scheduled games against midwestern schools.
None of those add enough money to the conference to justify splitting it 16 ways instead of 14.
I could see Texas A&M wanting to leave the SEC because the reason they left the Big 12 is now joining them in the SEC. I would say Texas A&M and North Carolina
How about the SEC rejects expansion due to A&M and then Texas and OK end up n the B1G in the west...now that would be the most dominant conference out there AND level the playing field between East/West
No. Not happening even if Texas is admitted. A&M staying in SEC regardless
Unfortunately wont occur. Warren had his chance to be proactive and reach out and did not. While the rest of the country moved on, Warren and the School Presidents remain in quick sand.
At best the B1G has been resting on its laurels since Warren took over…and that’s being kind. However, I can’t see Texas and Oklahoma passing up the SEC for the B1G regardless, even if the league still had a real leader like Delany.
TCU might be a possibility in my mind, but don't know enough about the school to say it should get an invite.Baylor I put in the Nit classification of anything to win and a program to avoid.
I would say have the B1G and PAC come to an arrangement on conference partnership type merger , making each conference obligated to have all thir teams play 2 OOC games against the other every year on home and home scheduling.
Might even help start a rivalery between some of the programs ( examples: Rutgers-Stanford?/ Maryland-CAL?/ OSU-USC?maybe Michigan-UCLA?)
But to make it work, PAC needs to get to 14 , maybe ( 2of these 4) TCU Baylor,Kansas or Iowa St
As it is now, don't think any of the Big 12 leftovers will add anything to the B1G and be more of a revenue sharing drain.
But if any could add, the Texas schools might be the ones that would .
I would say have the B1G and PAC come to an arrangement on conference partnership type merger , making each conference obligated to have all thir teams play 2 OOC games against the other every year on home and home scheduling.
Might even help start a rivalery between some of the programs ( examples: Rutgers-Stanford?/ Maryland-CAL?/ OSU-USC?maybe Michigan-UCLA?)
But to make it work, PAC needs to get to 14 , maybe ( 2of these 4) TCU Baylor,Kansas or Iowa St
As it is now, don't think any of the Big 12 leftovers will add anything to the B1G and be more of a revenue sharing drain.
But if any could add, the Texas schools might be the ones that would .
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IIRC, the ACC GOR expires in 2037. Each school signed. It would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to leave the ACC now.
Also, iirc, UF, USCe and Georgia have veto power over an in-state school joining the SEC. So, I wouldn't hold my breath on FSU joining the SEC.
Warren sucks, unfortunately
I wondered this in another thread, but the GoR only covers revenue for home games. Does that also include games played at neutral sites, where the team is considered the "home" team?
For instance, UNC plays a schedule of 7 home and 5 away games currently, and risks all revenue from the 7 home games going to the ACC if it were to leave. However, if it shifted its schedule to have 3 games in its home stadium, 3 "neutral site" games at Bank of America Stadium, and 6 away games.... would they essentially reduce their GoR commitment to the ACC by half?
For instance, UNC plays a schedule of 7 home and 5 away games currently, and risks all revenue from the 7 home games going to the ACC if it were to leave. However, if it shifted its schedule to have 3 games in its home stadium, 3 "neutral site" games at Bank of America Stadium, and 6 away games.... would they essentially reduce their GoR commitment to the ACC by half?
Russ, I know that many many years ago the Big 10 led by Michigan did not want ND in the BIG but in 1999 they were invited and again just before 2011. In both cases they turned the BIG down because they wanted to remain independent in football. They had a TV contract with NBC for all of their football games being televised by NBC and they absolutely did not want to share their revenue with other schools. They have always felt they were better than everyone else. Even when they joined the Big East they refused to join for football. They seem to always believe they are so elite and better than everyone else. Even in the ACC they only played a few ACC teams until the pandemic hit. THat is why I don't want them in the BIG.
Yeah and our crossover games would be Oklahoma , texas and Wisconsin !!
I don't think Notre Dame thinks it's better than everybody else.
However, I think that's the perception of everybody else.
I think if any school in the country had a TV deal like Notre Dame has with NBC and didn't have to share Bowl appearance revenue with other schools they'd be reluctant to give up the independent status of their football program too. Especially before 2007.
But the economics of college athletics has had a seismic shift in the past 21 years.
Does Notre Dame want to join a conference now? Maybe. Maybe not. I have no idea. But I know that Notre Dame fans are everywhere in this country and they would bring more eyeballs to the BTN and BTN+ in states outside of the B1G footprint. Which means more scrilla to B1G members.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
I can understand you not wanting the imitation Irish a B1G member and since Rutgers became a member felt the same.
Doesn't matter that years ago Michigan or any other B1G school might not have wanted them, or the phony Irish felt their TV deal made the B1G a bad choice.
The landscape of College Football just received a jolt and made the SEC a heck of a lot stronger perception wise that could become a financial boost for that conference that makes the B1G revenue sharing payout look pale in comparison in the near future.
Adding Notre Dame and it's prestige among college football fans would move the B1G close to the type of conference the EC will be looked at when OK & Tex start playing as SEC members
I feel the SEC in the future will add more if they can entice top programs to leave the conference they are in and align with the SEC because of the money that can be earned as members compared to the payout they're receiving in present conference .
The B1G could be paying $60 mil o each member, but if the SEC is giving 78, don't think OSU might not think about a change.
Notre Dame's membership probably would add the type of revenue to keep the B1G close to the SEC when revenue sharing is payed out to the members..
I don't believe this is the end of conference realignment and eventually two will be super conferences types with one making another a partner , while keeping independent from them when in conference scheduling is concerned.
That said I feel if the imitation Irish join any conference in football, the ACC will give them anything they want and ND will turn ACC full members and the B1G not a contender for their hand.
Luckily ( or unluckily) my speculation never pans out, a few years ago I posted how I thought OK and Texas would by leaving the Big 12 , bringing Texas Tech and OK St with them to the PAC
We now see how that worked out [roll]:chairshot:
Not going to happen. The SEC would kick TAMU out before letting them stop Texas from joining.
Oklahoma and Texas are going to join the SEC, pick up there big bags of cash and an annual loss to Alabama in football. At least until Nick Saban retires
The big thing that people on football boards don’t mention is that the Big East and ACC have made it very easy for ND to stay independent in football by giving them a place to plop their other sports. And heck just this past year notre dame played in the ACC football conference championship game.
I agree but doubt Notre Dame will give up independent status for football along with national tv contract which gives them enormous recruiting advantage.
I like Gtech because of the Atlanta population center and potential TV money. I would also like a Florida school.
That contract with NBC is due to expire soon and I don't know if NBC is all that interested in continuing their deal with Notre Dame. In BC might be I just don't know because I don't follow it all that closely.
Plus, if Notre Dame joined the Big Ten their payout would exceed what they're currently getting from NBC.
Which Florida school?
Florida is not leaving the SEC.
The GOR agreement that Florida State signed with the ACC would put their exit fee in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Miami? PUH-LEEZ, I beg you. Don't rescue that school and its obnoxious, sidewalk fan fan base.
UCF or USF? Directional commuter schools in the Big Ten?
Culturally GT is a better fit in the SEC than the ACC. Biggest mistake Georgia Tech ever made was leaving the SEC.
Besides, if the B1G sticks with its philosophy of only adding schools in states that share a border with states that have an existing B1G member that would rule out Georgia Tech and any school in Florida.
I think if the B1G can't get ND they invite Kansas and either Iowa State or Colorado.
Hopefully Barry Alvarez gets Kevin Warren off his *** and doing something about this
When we were in the Big East I thought John Marinatto was the worst conference commissioner of all time. Warren has passed him