How to improve transfer portal

[MusicFreaks]

I think we can all agree how insane this transfer portal is. While I am TOTALLY onboard with players getting more power in their school choices, this is just NUTS. A change needs to happen, but not going back to the status quo. Coaches can leave whenever they want, why can't student athletes.

So here are my thoughts:
1. Fr and So need to stick around and if they transfer, they need to sit out the one year. Will keep kids from jumping ship so soon.
2. Jr, Sr, etc can enter as is now. No sitting out year, etc. I think this will help "keep" their obligation to the school while also fostering some choice in the future.

I think "something" along these lines would go a LONG way in helping change the portal. It was a good idea that BLEW UP in their face. I hope the NCAA comes up with a solution soon. Kids do need more choice - but this is just chaotic.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

People don't like change....more people don't like the perception of student athlete empowerment.....a lot more people also don't like to lose.

I don't understand how this is different from the NFL....which by most definitions is the best sport....because it gives the impression that a team that lost the year before, or didn't make the playoffs the year before, can win the next year.

If you have a weakness on your roster and the players on your current team, can't or aren't able to fix it, you have a chance to improve your team.

I think the slow death of some sports (MLB) is because there is a real belief that certain teams, just cannot win most years.....

In CBB, much more than CFB, you now have a chance to fix your roster in a 1 to 3 month span. I don't see the downside and it may be the very first season where any preseason rankings or projections, would literally be thrown out the window. And the thoughts that 1 and dones and 5* players will rule CBB, good luck asking 18 to 19 year olds going to war on the court with your experienced 4th or 5th year players, that some of the inferior rosters on paper now have a chance to reload with.

The writers or folks who have no idea about the caliber of the transfers in and out of these rosters, will be the true chaos. It will really be a test of eyes and ears on the ground to know......

Add in the players in 2022 that you want to target for next year, vs this year and you have a lot to consider.....but I don't see any restrictions making things better, it needs to be a free and mobile system for the players......especially when head coaches or assistant coaches can up and leave instantly with no limit.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I think players should get 1 free move. I am against amateur athletes getting compensated in any way, but am 100% for their ability to change schools and not be locked up in a decision made when they were 16.

 

[kapyoche]

Luka Garza may be the last great player who will play for one team for four years.
I am not sure we will see this again.

 

[rucoe89]

The players should be allowed to get agents too. Oh wait ......

 

[RUsojo]

Players should move freely they’re college kids.

 

[rutgersfan1766]

Do college kids (non athletes) have to sit out of classes for one year when they transfer too?

 

[Russ Wood]

Coaches can leave whenever they want, why can't student athletes.

Coaches, or their new school must pay a buyout in order to leave whenever they want.

 

[rubaseball78_rivals]

Coaches, or their new school must pay a buyout in order to leave whenever they want.

Doesn’t seem to deter them from moving.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Do college kids (non athletes) have to sit out of classes for one year when they transfer too?

This is so dumb. Do regular non-athletes get to fly charter jets to competition? Do mom-athletes get there own private work out facility? Do non-athletes all get scholarships and given less restrictive admission standards? Do non-athletes get access to a dedicated trainer? Do non-athletes get cost of living stipends?

Should the NCAA stop having refs enforce travels because non-athletes don’t worry about travels in their pick up games?

Stop comparing non-athletes to athletes. Their needs to be some rules that the athletes need to play by to have some controls to provide what is best for everyone involved.

Comparing a non-athlete to athlete is the equivalent of comparing pikiell to a teacher, nurse to a doctor, a secretary to a managing director, you 12 year old to your 18 year old....

 

[GM]

This is so dumb. Do regular non-athletes get to fly charter jets to competition? Do mom-athletes get there own private work out facility? Do non-athletes all get scholarships and given less restrictive admission standards? Do non-athletes get access to a dedicated trainer? Do non-athletes get cost of living stipends?

Should the NCAA stop having refs enforce travels because non-athletes don’t worry about travels in their pick up games?

Stop comparing non-athletes to athletes. Their needs to be some rules that the athletes need to play by to have some controls to provide what is best for everyone involved.

Comparing a non-athlete to athlete is the equivalent of comparing pikiell to a teacher, nurse to a doctor, a secretary to a managing director, you 12 year old to your 18 year old....

And I think the best thing for everyone involved is allowing the players to choose where they want to attend.

 

[RUDave_01]

I think having a rule where you get one non sitout transfer makes sense. A kid should not be punished if he ends up in a bad or unexpected situation (coach is abusive or leaves, team/school culture doesn't match what was in the brochure). Schools make a large investment in these kids and should not be held hostage to the changing whims of 17-21 yr olds (nor should the students be held hostage either). I'm sure there is a more fair middle ground than where we landed this off-season.

 

[TDIrish27]

I think having a rule where you get one non sitout transfer makes sense. A kid should not be punished if he ends up in a bad or unexpected situation (coach is abusive or leaves, team/school culture doesn't match what was in the brochure). Schools make a large investment in these kids and should not be held hostage to the changing whims of 17-21 yr olds (nor should the students be held hostage either). I'm sure there is a more fair middle ground than where we landed this off-season.

Agreed

 

[Rufaninga]

What % of kids in Portal have already transferred to another school already? I would bet it is a lower % than you think. For those thinking 1 free move fixes # of kids in Portal, I would think 80% of kids in there now are first timers.

Does anyone know % first time portal transfers vs. multi transfer?

 

[RUChoppin]

Only thing that jumps out at me is there should be a cutoff date or a dead period imposed so that teams can plan their rosters for the upcoming season. For instance, you have to announce by 8/1 if you intend to play for another team that winter.... or the portal is closed for names between 8/1 and 12/1, or something.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

And I think the best thing for everyone involved is allowing the players to choose where they want to attend.

And they do.


AND if they don’t like a coach, hate the school, the team, the fans... whatever they can transfer AND sit out a year make sure they make up any credits that did not transfer, practice and get ready for next year.

By the same logic players should choose where to go then that would mean people would be ok with players transferring mid season after first semester. After all players should pick where they go to school and play

 

[Joey Bags]

Do college kids (non athletes) have to sit out of classes for one year when they transfer too?

Actually, in many cases yes. Typically when you transfer academically the school you go to doesn’t take all of your prior credits requiring you to take another semester or two. RU was notorious for this. Not sitting out, but rather forcing you to take more/spend more.

 

[RUMassAlum]

I think we can all agree how insane this transfer portal is. While I am TOTALLY onboard with players getting more power in their school choices, this is just NUTS. A change needs to happen, but not going back to the status quo. Coaches can leave whenever they want, why can't student athletes.

So here are my thoughts:
1. Fr and So need to stick around and if they transfer, they need to sit out the one year. Will keep kids from jumping ship so soon.
2. Jr, Sr, etc can enter as is now. No sitting out year, etc. I think this will help "keep" their obligation to the school while also fostering some choice in the future.

I think "something" along these lines would go a LONG way in helping change the portal. It was a good idea that BLEW UP in their face. I hope the NCAA comes up with a solution soon. Kids do need more choice - but this is just chaotic.

I think that absolutely unrestricted transferring is a terrible idea. It produces a situation of utter chaos and discontinuity in a program. While the vision of the pure-as-the-driven snow student athlete has long since faded into mythology, the unlimited transferring goes way too far in the opposite direction. there are kids who are about to play for their third college team. Who knows...absent any constraints, we could see someone play for four teams someday! Gee, I wonder which school that guy would root for as a greying alumnus? Yes, I see the allure of unrestricted transfers. Your school just might get lucky and grab a player or tow that can turn your program around, or at least plug-and-play new personnel to fill holes from your previous season's team. But it's a two edged sword; you are alos likely to lose key players in any given year. For these reasons, i favor the idea proposed by Greene Rice and others that players are allowed one, and only one, non-sitout transfer. After that, you have to sit out the year. I do not favor restricting transfer to upperclassmen; there could be freshmen and sophomores who are unhappy in some way(s) and just want to move on. As for those who make analogies to pro sports, I disagree. All pro athletes have clear and binding contractual obligations, and if they are unhappy, they have to renegotiate that contract, which can be very complex and drawn out in some instances. So, unrestricted player movement in college is a bad practice, IMHO.

 

[GM]

And they do.


AND if they don’t like a coach, hate the school, the team, the fans... whatever they can transfer AND sit out a year make sure they make up any credits that did not transfer, practice and get ready for next year.

By the same logic players should choose where to go then that would mean people would be ok with players transferring mid season after first semester. After all players should pick where they go to school and play

Sure, let them go where they want. We’re like the only country with this stupid college sports system. If players can’t have freedom of movement just cause they’re athletes, then maybe the system should be overhauled.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Sure, let them go where they want. We’re like the only country with this stupid college sports system. If players can’t have freedom of movement just cause they’re athletes, then maybe the system should be overhauled.

this "stupid college sports system" gives thousands the opprtunity at an education at universities that they may not have access to otherwise. Some go free, some get into schools that would have declined them out right if they didn't play sports, some go because the alternative is not going to college at all, some may go because it allows them to continue to play and get out of their crappy situation....This "stupid college sports system" is one of the great things ever created.

 

[bowlgoal]

I think the portal was the worst thing ever created for college sports. If you have a year of eligibility as a grad transfer; I'm all for it. But to use it to jump around and literally ruin rosters and make programs start from scratch is absurd. Certain schools will reap huge rewards from a few players. I think it brings the dirty money into play and it's just not healthy for the student athletes. How many will have credits fall short because they are not accepted at a given school? Athletes talk about being used and thrown away; when they all have a chance to get a degree. This puts the sport first and when all is said and done; how many will graduate?

 

[RUMassAlum]

I think the portal was the worst thing ever created for college sports. If you have a year of eligibility as a grad transfer; I'm all for it. But to use it to jump around and literally ruin rosters and make programs start from scratch is absurd. Certain schools will reap huge rewards from a few players. I think it brings the dirty money into play and it's just not healthy for the student athletes. How many will have credits fall short because they are not accepted at a given school? Athletes talk about being used and thrown away; when they all have a chance to get a degree. This puts the sport first and when all is said and done; how many will graduate?

Perfectly stated.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I have no problem with the transfer portal as a concept but anyone who thinks this year isn’t an unmitigated disaster, and changes don’t need to be made, is just gonna make me chuckle.

 

[rutgersfan1766]

The portal is literally a filtered database. How else should you contact schools you're interested in transferring to? For those that don't like the transfer portal I challenge you to only send snail mail for the next week. No emails.

 

[Russ Wood]

Doesn’t seem to deter them from moving.

No, but my point was that when a Coach leaves a school that school gets paid. When a player transfers all the school gets is an open scholarship to fill. If that player was on scholarship that is.

I don't have any problem with kids transferring. For the most part I'm sure the coaches don't either. Why would they want a kid on their team that's not all in and doesn't want to be there?

 

[NickRU714]

The portal is literally a filtered database. How else should you contact schools you're interested in transferring to? For those that don't like the transfer portal I challenge you to only send snail mail for the next week. No emails.

Many are conflating the "Portal" with "transfering".
Transfering has been happening all the time.
It seems the main complaints are about the transfer rules and not the "Portal".

The real problem is the NCAA and their crazy "everyone gets a free COVID year".

There was no "Tranfer Portal" when Eli Carter and Mike Rosario transferred to Florida.
Didn't stop it from happening.