48.7 from 3, 85% from line. Rutgers in the mix
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JUCO Josh Baker
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What happened to the yardbirds who for years preached that JUCOs don’t come here because Rutgers Admissions folks give a thumbs down to much of the JUCO coursework?
Just like you can't have too much cowbell, you can't have enough Bakers on the roster.
Nobody has made that kind of claim the way you put it. Our mods have explained this pretty well in the past. Hutchinson and many other JUCO's have Phys Ed majors. If a kid has the grades in JUCO to allow him to be eligible to play, RU would accept them, but most of those basket weaving courses will not transfer. When the kid is faced with the fact that most of the garbage credits that they earned at JUCO will have to be retaken, they usually do not consider RU after finding that out. RU has taken JUCO transfers because there are some kids that take curriculums that would allow them to transfer here or almost anywhere.
Hutchinson is one of the JUCO's where a disproportionate amount of their football players are pushed into Phys Ed courses just so they can make grade. It does not hurt the kids that are able to transfer to most SEC and Big12 programs because those schools have majors such as Phys Ed
A Phys Ed major can get into RU, but it is nearly impossible to get a kid when he realizes that he still would have 2 more years of classes to get his degree after his scholarship is used up.
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There was no such policy. It was all about RU not having a Phys Ed major so credits would not transfer.
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Rutgers Admissions posture with JUCOs goes beyond Phy. Ed. and basket weaving courses. There are plenty of terrific programs that routinely use JUCOs to bolster their teams. Extremely odd that Rutgers does not.
I’m not that crazy about recruiting JUCOs unless it’s to fill a slot that is open late. It usually takes them at least a full year to adjust to the pace on defense. Even the best ones don’t usually have a big impact on decent teams until year two.
That is because those schools have the JUCO transfer's major. Most schools do. They are able to accept all or most of their credits. It has been argued here that RU should offer a Physical Education major.
The only place beyond Phys Ed was if the major was not offered here. RU was not acting like BC or Notre Dame. They would accept an athlete that had the absolute minimum qualifications if our sports teams wanted them. Don't pretend that we had so much higher standards than other programs.
It's not like RU has not accepted JUCO's. We just have not had that many because most JUCO athletes are JUCO's because they were bad students or did not have the correct college prep classes where they be eligible to play D1 ball.
No exactly JUCO
...no matter where a kid went to high school, anywhere in America, they would receive a full academic scholarship to UNLV if they graduated as the valedictorian.
Tark said they read about this in the newspaper one day and one of his assistants immediately cracked a joke: "Hell, Clifford was the valedictorian of that El Paso de Robles GED program. He should qualify for a full academic scholarship."
"We all laughed," Tarkanian said, "but then I got to thinking …"
If Allen was on an academic scholarship then that freed up one more basketball scholarship to bring in another guy. Plus they could publicize it and would help Allen's reputation. Win-win.
An assistant was dispatched to the youth correctional facility and an official paper was drafted (a couple bucks may or may not have been used to grease the skids with a dumbfounded prison worker).
However it was done, Allen was declared the valedictorian of the prison GED program, even if no one knew if a prison GED program could even have a valedictorian because, you know, it's a prison GED program and all.
I know nothing about this kid but JUCO stats are meaningless in terms of translating at the D1 level. Defense is often a problem at first. And I mean bad to the point that it’s tough for them to see the floor (like significantly worse than any of our guards who saw time last year). Think about it - how many JUCOs can you think of that have come in at the major D1 level and had a big year one impact. Fine if you take a chance on one if you have a left over schollie last minute.
Lost 2 guards, added 2 guards. BUT, Baker could still return.
Im concerned about losing Young's speed and defensive pressure. The only possible new guard that can fill that void is Miller.
I was counting Geo back at the moment. He’s one of the ones we could lose.
IMO losing Young is like losing two guards: the speed demon who can alter a game with steals, drives, dishes and 3's...and the out of control Young who can alter the game too.
MO
PS I love Young, his energy and net impact on the team.
48% on 200+ threes is impressive no matter what level. That is insane.
That's impressive if you go down to the gym and shoot with nobody guarding you
He still has to be able to play at least mediocre defense to see the floor. All I’m saying is that historically a lot of first year JUCOs struggle to see time their first year in big time D1 conferences because of this (try to name some JUCOs who had big impacts their first year- there aren’t that many). I don’t know anything about him specifically though.
You don’t know that a kid who excels at the JUCO level will translate into a big time play maker in the big 10 regardless of the statistics. History says most JUCOs that succeed do it in year 2 not year 1. There have certainly been exceptions, but they are just that. Not the rule.
yeah I don’t think this kid is any good his offer list is bad seems more like pike is just keeping him warm if Geo were to leave end we continue to get told good players aren’t interested