Are many here underestimating their potential contributions the next 3-4 seasons? These guys weren’t superstars coming in, we all knew that they were going to need a year or two to develop, but they really didn’t get that this season. Thoughts?
Mag and Reiber
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Mag looks like he can play.
Reiber looks overmatched.
Let's see where they are at in 2 years. My guess is Mag will be playing significant minutes and Reiber will transfer down to a mid or low major.
Reiber looks overmatched.
Let's see where they are at in 2 years. My guess is Mag will be playing significant minutes and Reiber will transfer down to a mid or low major.
Agree with Mag. My thought process with Reiber is that he needed more games in the preseason, before the conference schedule, to get accustomed to this level and speed of play and that really hurt him this year (of all the frosh)
If you are only looking at offense, Reiber showed us very little. But on defense he did hold his own against Garza with very little game play before that. He can still develop..!
Reiber might be able to develop. I don't see it but then again, I never thought Eugene would become a very good player after seeing him his freshman year.
Both really could have benefited from a full OOC slate, and I think both will benefit from a full offseason S&C program and practice with the team.
Mag seemed to be 2nd most ready at the start of the year, but the injury set him back. A bit raw, but it looked like the tools were there. Would love to see him get a bit stronger and maybe up to 220-225 for next year to defensively bang a bit with 4s.
Reiber showed some life defensively at times, but his offensive game just isn't there yet. Outside of the elite level centers coming out of HS, bigs usually take a bit longer to develop - and hopefully he shows some growth into next year.
Mag seemed to be 2nd most ready at the start of the year, but the injury set him back. A bit raw, but it looked like the tools were there. Would love to see him get a bit stronger and maybe up to 220-225 for next year to defensively bang a bit with 4s.
Reiber showed some life defensively at times, but his offensive game just isn't there yet. Outside of the elite level centers coming out of HS, bigs usually take a bit longer to develop - and hopefully he shows some growth into next year.
Reiber has some decent basketball instincts from what I saw, he just needs to get stronger. When the ball came to him I felt like he generally knew what to do and played within the system. I thought Palmquist on the other hand would get the ball and decide it was his turn to shoot even if it wasn't in rhythm.
From watching just looks like the college game is too fast for Reiber.
I agree with much of what’s above.
Mag seems to have a good motor and a good frame and B1G level athleticism.
Dean seemed over matched. Who knows,but I’m not confident in his develop,ent.
I do think Oskar has shown some and he, especially, would have shown more if we’d had an OOC.
Mag seems to have a good motor and a good frame and B1G level athleticism.
Dean seemed over matched. Who knows,but I’m not confident in his develop,ent.
I do think Oskar has shown some and he, especially, would have shown more if we’d had an OOC.
He reminds me of a poor man's Nate Reuvers. That's a playable Big Ten bench guy... Remember Reuvers had a really nice junior year.
Mag is someone that I really see developing
kid has explosion on his Jump, coach said he had a nice shot (which I saw good form in limited attempts ) and was a very good defender
kid has explosion on his Jump, coach said he had a nice shot (which I saw good form in limited attempts ) and was a very good defender
Mags going to be good. Keep forgetting about him. Very athletic and will be a great D guy. Haven’t seen much offense buts he’s obviously played sparingly.
jones watch his tape, recruiting tidbits etc. kid can ball. Huge get.
miller can’t attest too tape looks good, from all accounts will be a contributor.
reiber played good D in the Iowa game, offensively looked lost but I’d expect that giving no OOC and really only playing out of need. Verdicts out.
palmquist, wasn’t too impressed with him Who knows we’ll see.
Cliff pre injury and end of season looked to fit the bill of his ranking. Strength training and time on the court he will be a stud, we need a backup there tho BIG TIME.
jones watch his tape, recruiting tidbits etc. kid can ball. Huge get.
miller can’t attest too tape looks good, from all accounts will be a contributor.
reiber played good D in the Iowa game, offensively looked lost but I’d expect that giving no OOC and really only playing out of need. Verdicts out.
palmquist, wasn’t too impressed with him Who knows we’ll see.
Cliff pre injury and end of season looked to fit the bill of his ranking. Strength training and time on the court he will be a stud, we need a backup there tho BIG TIME.
I don't know. Reiber didn't look scared when he went in there in December which is important. It looked like he had some offensive ability at least but the Big Ten has MEN in the paint much more than other conferences so not confident he can match up with those types of guys. Pikiell did throw him in there a few times early so he must've had some confidence in him.
I'm really intrigued by Mag. Could give the team a bolt of energy for 15-20 minutes a game next year I'm hoping. I think he is going to be a solid rotation guy this coming season.
Such a small sample to go on with these guys. No real OOC schedule really hurt.
I'm really intrigued by Mag. Could give the team a bolt of energy for 15-20 minutes a game next year I'm hoping. I think he is going to be a solid rotation guy this coming season.
Such a small sample to go on with these guys. No real OOC schedule really hurt.
I like Mag and thought he would contribute this year, but with Caleb back and the shortened bench it was not to be. I think he contributes next year but is a little smaller than I thought, hopefully he finds his position. Reiber with some strength and learning the speed of the game I think can help at PF and maybe some spot duty at C, but maybe next year is still too soon, but he has four left. If Duke and Myles leave him and Cliff could be the only scholarship guys over 6-8.
I think many of you are writing off Reiber too quickly. I believe he’ll become a solid rotation guy next year.
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Pike seems to develop guys. Not sure how much that is a factor of the assistant coaches or former assistant coaches . But guys do develop. Guys also regress (baker and Mathis).
Those of you giving up on Reiber, remember how bad Eugene O was as a freshman.
I think reiber has potential I don't know why you guys think he's toast
If this wasn't a free year, Reiber probably would have redshirted. And the lead up to the season wasn't normal. So it's far too soon to know how he will develop. As for Mag, in normal years, it seems like early season injuries to true freshmen often result in medical redshirt seasons. If they both put the work in during the off-season, they could be far better players, ready to contribute significant minutes, by the time the season starts, and get their feet wet with some easier out of conference games.
Reiber instincts were very good. Wait to see him develop as some have said. He wasn't some 5 star elite athlete but he knows how to play for sure. If he can develop an outside shot that would be huge.
Mag looks great IMO. Just raw but he is long bouncey and great build. I think he is a higher upside Mathis type since he is taller longer and twitchier.
For what it's worth I was saying Eugene was oozing with potential when others saw none
I call BS on almost all of the above. We did not see enough of any of them to make these comments. One thing I noticed in the tournament is older big men seem to rebound best because they are all filled out. But some of the scorers did not look the part of guys who could score. There were around 5-10 guys that looked like they would be mediocre and they were very good ball players.
Mag, Reiber and Palmquist each played less than 70 minutes total during the season. Too small a sample size for me to evaluate them.
I expect each of them to be rotation guys next season.
Reiber averaged 5.9 minutes in the games he played. Mag, 5.8, and Palmquist, 4.8. There's no way we can tell how they'll be in the future with so little to base it on. Especially since those minutes weren't in every game we played.
We know they weren’t ready this year. That is the only fact I have. Everything else is a wild guess. At times in the season we had players in the rotation playing poorly and they didn’t play.
I will hang my hat on the fact we have seen players in similar positions become rotation players in the future.
I will hang my hat on the fact we have seen players in similar positions become rotation players in the future.
I think Reiber has the potential to be a good player for us. The thing that impressed me the most in his limited minutes was his presence on the court. Didn’t seem intimidated at all. He looks like an athletic big who can shoot based on his film.
Mag looks good. Physical defensive minded player.
Palmquist, not so sure about.
But I agree that with such limited minutes played by each, it’s hard to judge or predict their development.
Mag looks good. Physical defensive minded player.
Palmquist, not so sure about.
But I agree that with such limited minutes played by each, it’s hard to judge or predict their development.
Yeah I’d give him another year before we judge how he’ll develop. Sometimes it finally clicks and a player we least expect becomes an important contributor as an upperclassman.
Palmquist just needs to get the gun out and develop his shot. His size is enough to bother most on the defensive end. We need to see the shooter that Pike recruited.
He also has to do more than just hide in the corner like Issa Thiam. And he has to hit more shots than Thiam too.
if all three of them are in the rotation next year, it will be a long season.
By giving those guys a taste of PT as freshmen, Pike planted the seed. It’s now up to each of them to work hard at improving their skills, and strengthening their bodies.
The biggest difference will be between the ears.
Some guys will respond by becoming obsessed with improvement and driven to earn more playing time. Eugene was a great example of what can be accomplished through hard work.
Mag, Reiber and Palmquist are all capable of becoming regular contributors. Let’s see which of them is up to the task.
The biggest difference will be between the ears.
Some guys will respond by becoming obsessed with improvement and driven to earn more playing time. Eugene was a great example of what can be accomplished through hard work.
Mag, Reiber and Palmquist are all capable of becoming regular contributors. Let’s see which of them is up to the task.
I think Mag can see quite a few minutes next season if we have a full OOC schedule. I think he can contribute at power forward. Reiber I think could get some more minutes as well. His grandfather attended Rutgers and that is why he was so interested in RU. I think with a full summer to train and get stronger and a full OOC schedule he can contribute as well. As for Palmquist he is more difficult for me to guess about. He might also surprise. I saw him at many practices last season and he does have a nice outside shot. I think he needs minutes and some confidence.
Rieber looked good to me tbh. I think he will end up being a solid player. Same w Mag. We really won't know much about any of them until next season though.
That was where Paul was a lot on offense. He played the 3 this season. Early in the season, I noticed Oskar subbed for Paul and Mag subbed for Ron. So they’ll be at the 3 and 4. He definitely has to work on those corner 3s. Miller does a lot of driving. If he’s the future PG, Oskar has to hit it when he kicks it to him.