Masks will linger with some residual rules / habits outlasting the virus for some amount of time.
I could see myself wearing one on crowded rush hour public transit in the near-term whether it’s mandated or not.
Rutgers to REQUIRE all in person students to be vaccinated this fall
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Masks will linger with some residual rules / habits outlasting the virus for some amount of time.
I could see myself wearing one on crowded rush hour public transit in the near-term whether it’s mandated or not.
Nope ... but you're close! It's a dumb argument because, among myriad other reasons, no one is being forced by law here. Which is why skuulie got laughed out of the room pages ago.
Voluntarily doing it to protect yourself in the short term is a perfectly legit reason to do so. Requiring two already vaccinated folks to mask up because of some nebulous fear that they may transmit it to someone immunocompromised who cannot be vaccinated through the magic of the Six Degrees Game is not.
I would see people doing this way before COVID-19 and wouldn’t think twice about thinking they were weird or odd.
If it works for you, it works for you. None of my business.
His body, his choice. There are non covid reasons to do this on crowded public transport anyway. See: Asia.
There’s gonna be hundreds of thousands of people who will continue to mask. Whatever. If that’s what makes someone feel safer, I’m all for it
I am late to the party, but congrats on making the right decision. I hope other schools follow your lead.
Thats the issue..if they feel a certain portion of the population will go on living their life in fear and giving up freedoms it effects the rest of us
And for the poster bringing up Asia..move there
he wasn't pushing it on others. he was just saying that he could see himself doing so...
Guy cowering under his bed afraid of cold tells everyone to grow a set. Ha!
Whether a vaccinated guy still wants to wear a mask after mandates end has zero impact on my life
if a certain portion of the population goes on spreading disease so that it can mutate more quickly, they are giving up freedoms for the rest of us.
Here is Rutgers' web page describing other vaccines it REQUIRES. Isn't it just shocking that Rutgers doesn't want its students spreading contagious diseases (sarcasm)?
http://health.rutgers.edu/medical-c...ical/immunization-requirements-allergy-shots/
http://health.rutgers.edu/medical-c...ical/immunization-requirements-allergy-shots/
But okay with their employees doing it?
Because getting sick has always been an annoying nuisance I prefer to avoid, and there won’t be any social stigma around masks for a little while after this. Also standing face to face in a tight space with a stranger will be a bit uncomfortable for some time after our collective experience over the last twelve months.
Flu, cold, strep, bronchitis...people on public transport can be pretty sickly
You really think that they have two different viewpoints on the same subject and that it is not likely an issue of enforceability instead?
There should never even been a stigma pre-COVID 19 and on the flip side there shouldn’t be one NOW for walking around by yourself (socially distanced) and NOT wearing one.
So extortion is the way to do for the students? LOL
You want to be part of the Rutgers family? Well, this is what you have to do....
The issue here is past the point of where you stand on worrying about getting sick from Covid or what your personal risk level is. Many life altering restrictions will not change until the Covid metrics improve for a sustainable time. Whether or not one agrees with the politics of this is really besides the point. It’s the way it’s going to be and the only way for those numbers to improve is to get more people to take the vaccine. Maybe if you don’t have kids you don’t give a crap but for those of us with school age children in particular the consequences are huge.
Bottom line. If enough people don’t take a Covid vaccine our children’s primary schools will continue to shut down every time there are 2 dang Covid cases (anyone else dealing with this on and off nightmare???). Then there’s the constant fear of coming in contact with someone who tested positive for Covid and having your family be subject to a 2 week quarantine from school - your own kid(s) being the only ones zooming in on a virtual line. sound familiar anyone? How about the stress of a decision of whether to send your kid to school or not with the sniffles? These other secondary and terciary Covid concerns are life altering for those impacted.
And these things have nothing to do with fear of getting sick. The only way they change is with mass vaccination which will shift the metrics on positive tests quickly.
You can’t force anyone to take a vaccine but you can make life inconvenient without it which is what’s likely to happen. It won’t only be Rutgers. The new norm is going to be showing a vaccination card to do many things or be subject to a lot of Covid tests and possible inconvenient quarantines while traveling if you test positive (and there are plenty of false readings so this would be a big risk for people to continue to take).
Bottom line. If enough people don’t take a Covid vaccine our children’s primary schools will continue to shut down every time there are 2 dang Covid cases (anyone else dealing with this on and off nightmare???). Then there’s the constant fear of coming in contact with someone who tested positive for Covid and having your family be subject to a 2 week quarantine from school - your own kid(s) being the only ones zooming in on a virtual line. sound familiar anyone? How about the stress of a decision of whether to send your kid to school or not with the sniffles? These other secondary and terciary Covid concerns are life altering for those impacted.
And these things have nothing to do with fear of getting sick. The only way they change is with mass vaccination which will shift the metrics on positive tests quickly.
You can’t force anyone to take a vaccine but you can make life inconvenient without it which is what’s likely to happen. It won’t only be Rutgers. The new norm is going to be showing a vaccination card to do many things or be subject to a lot of Covid tests and possible inconvenient quarantines while traveling if you test positive (and there are plenty of false readings so this would be a big risk for people to continue to take).
Nice try, dude. I've been actually spending time outdoors in the sun, wind and snow while you've been here lecturing about how important it is.
Don't see where you get extortion. They are enforcing what they think is appropriate, where they can. Students are accepted to Rutgers. Going there is not a right. If someone is so concerned with their rights and doesn't want to get vaccinated, then go remote or go somewhere else that doesn't require it. Freedom of choice is a beautiful thing.
You covid warriors would drink paint thinner if Fauci or Gates told you too.
Explain again how encouraging or enforcing mask wear is a huge power grab and what a politician or gov't entity gains with said grab.
I'm sure you've fleshed this out in great detail before, but maybe just humor me with a quick bullet-point recap.
I agree on both counts (assuming you are outside when not wearing one presently). A family member of mine had to wear a mask while battling an illness, but I assumed from then on that other mask wearers were also immunocompromised or overly anxious about germs. I think this pandemic resets the whole mindset around masks.
And so is everyone’s health and safety.
I’m saying if this is so important from a University-wide level why isn’t everyone being told to get a vaccination?
It's going to hurt the university in all sorts of ways. Especially $$$
Because they likely realize they can't enforce that across their employee base, much of which I imagine is unionized. I don't think it is a lack of desire to be consistent
This guy gets it. At the barest of minimums, getting vaccinated is the pragmatic thing to do.
Otherwise, you'll just be jumping from one set of complaints to another, right up until the rest of society carries your water for you.
Just how it is, not sure what people think they're gaining by screaming at it a year later when they could take simple action.
You never even went to the university; wtf do you know?
Curious choice of argument. People did drink bleach when the other guy suggested it.
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