This kid is gonna be a good one and a leader.
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Future RU pg Jalen Miller
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They're just highlights, but I like that he seems adept using both hands. Looks like he prefers driving to the left, but shoots jumpers with his right hand.
If he’s a TRUE point guard I wouldn’t worry. My guess is mentally he’s gonna be hood-to-go. Get him out there during the OOC slate!!!
I’ve watched a decent bit of his games, and he’s a really solid player and a leader. Seemed like his head coach had a whole lot of trust in him. Was decent defensively and I’m sure will play very hard for Pike. He has alright size for a guard, will be able to keep up with other guards in the league. Won’t turn the ball over too much as well, which is a plus. He has great finishing ability and potential, this quality is what could make him a great player. Rn he isn’t much of a shot creator unfortunately and doesn’t like too shoot it much. I’m not too worried he can become a good shooter at some point, but iso is probs not gonna be his forte. However, if Jaden turns out to be as good as I think he can be, Jalen will be a really good compliment as he can guard the other teams PG and relieve some of the ball handling duties. In short, a player of high character that can defend guards and has a lot of finishing potential.
Pike has a pretty good batting average for under the radar guys. With that being said everyone recruited isn’t a start on Day 1 guy. Everyone recruited doesn’t need to be a starter to contribute to the program.
I have no idea what to expect because I start following players when they put on the Rutgers uniform. I am just being realistic, if this guy wasn’t highly recruited there is a good chance he isn’t a starter at PG on day 1. It’s possible as Geo started day 1 at SG.
the description above from the stranger seemed very balanced and probably a guy who is more likely to be in a back up role.
I used the word probably
I have no idea what to expect because I start following players when they put on the Rutgers uniform. I am just being realistic, if this guy wasn’t highly recruited there is a good chance he isn’t a starter at PG on day 1. It’s possible as Geo started day 1 at SG.
the description above from the stranger seemed very balanced and probably a guy who is more likely to be in a back up role.
I used the word probably
I think he will be a good drive, draw and dish player also. Looks to have very good court vision.
This is HUGE as we commit FAR TOO MANY unforced TO’s as a team (including at the PG position).
If Geo returns he is the starting PG. If Geo leaves you go to the portal where you will find talented players, but like most players have warts.
for example Fatts Russel. He is small and is an inconsistent shooter, but he is a trusted point guard that I believe will defend. Not saying to get him, but every player will have a story and 1 or 2 things he isn’t good at.
for example Fatts Russel. He is small and is an inconsistent shooter, but he is a trusted point guard that I believe will defend. Not saying to get him, but every player will have a story and 1 or 2 things he isn’t good at.
A freshman coming in to the B1G probably turn it over just because of the speed and length of players. At least the 1st 1/3 of games. I remember how bad Caleb was as a freshman. He was a turnover machine when he was the point guard.
Oh he will, no doubt, BUT if he’s the only option and can get experience against the OOC’s then let him okay IMHO. That being said I would really love to see us get a fifth year transfer at the spot so that the kid can develop without being thrown to the wolves.
Quite honestly if we got a fourth or fifth your transfer point guard, a true point guard along with Geo, think about how nice that would be!
There's 2 camps that constantly contradicts itself.
A) There's the "he had no other major offers", which is really irrelevant because 65% of the B1G rosters are made up of 3* players.....most 3* players are not piled up with 5 to 10 Power 5/6 offers.
OR
B) RU needs to go through transfer portal and get an experienced guard, when 99% of the transfer portal guards are coming from Non-Power 5/6 leagues....all of the available, "prized "transfers have good stats in other leagues and have proven they can play.......
If you sent Jalen Miller to a school and he averages 13 to 14PPG at a smaller program where he plays 32 to 33 minutes a game and decides to hit the transfer portal, then he becomes the most highly sought after transfer in 2022.
The whole thing is just perception....if you take a transfer with highly rated stats, suddenly the kid is a huge recruiting win, because he piled up a lot of shot attempts or PPG.
Obviously a 4th or 5th year player is probably the easiest player to have a good idea on how they would play at this level. The easiest or most recent one was Yeboah as a 5th year grad transfer, average around 15 to 16 PPG at Stony Brook....and that when placed in the right role here at a B1G program, landed around 10 PPG and was steady.
You can take a Miller and his stats and play will be determined by how many minutes he plays....Same with Jaden Jones. Whomever plays solid minutes, will have good stat lines and plays within the system will be fine.
The program can land a grad or JUCO transfer to soften the landing for Miller OR Baker can come back and caddy/coach/help transition Miller into his role into 2022. I don't see a real need to take a transfer or JUCO guard if Geo departs, but it is a safe play to do so.
I also think 2022 guard recruiting impacts this decision, which I think will be positive as well.....
A) There's the "he had no other major offers", which is really irrelevant because 65% of the B1G rosters are made up of 3* players.....most 3* players are not piled up with 5 to 10 Power 5/6 offers.
OR
B) RU needs to go through transfer portal and get an experienced guard, when 99% of the transfer portal guards are coming from Non-Power 5/6 leagues....all of the available, "prized "transfers have good stats in other leagues and have proven they can play.......
If you sent Jalen Miller to a school and he averages 13 to 14PPG at a smaller program where he plays 32 to 33 minutes a game and decides to hit the transfer portal, then he becomes the most highly sought after transfer in 2022.
The whole thing is just perception....if you take a transfer with highly rated stats, suddenly the kid is a huge recruiting win, because he piled up a lot of shot attempts or PPG.
Obviously a 4th or 5th year player is probably the easiest player to have a good idea on how they would play at this level. The easiest or most recent one was Yeboah as a 5th year grad transfer, average around 15 to 16 PPG at Stony Brook....and that when placed in the right role here at a B1G program, landed around 10 PPG and was steady.
You can take a Miller and his stats and play will be determined by how many minutes he plays....Same with Jaden Jones. Whomever plays solid minutes, will have good stat lines and plays within the system will be fine.
The program can land a grad or JUCO transfer to soften the landing for Miller OR Baker can come back and caddy/coach/help transition Miller into his role into 2022. I don't see a real need to take a transfer or JUCO guard if Geo departs, but it is a safe play to do so.
I also think 2022 guard recruiting impacts this decision, which I think will be positive as well.....
Yeah but his hairstyle reminds of little Myles Johnson...just need to grow some sideburns
Just a point of reference. The recruiting site 247 has Jalen Miller ranked number 210 in his class nationwide. Geo Baker was ranked number 414 in his class.
As was Geo but that was a different time. The build was in its early stages and expectations were not as high. I ask this question with no intention of stirring up crap or being a wise ***, but is Jalen more advanced in his game than Geo was coming in as a freshman?
I was curious so I did a little checking. Without making a spreadsheet, it seemed pretty clear that most Big Ten rosters are made up of mostly 4 star players. The bottom feeders are mostly 3. The only teams that performed at a high level with majority 3 star players in the last couple years were Wisconsin and Rutgers. Not calling you out. Just thought it was interesting.
I've heard Miller described as a poor man's Kyle Lowry. Nowhere near the overall skill level of Lowry, but provides the same intangibles. I am eager to see how his game translates to the college level.
He sounds like he has plenty of upside at PG. If no Geo next season he will need help to share PG minutes from the portal.
I like his leadership abilities. Makes the team better and helps the HC install his system and culture. Should be an asset to the program.
He had a Wichita State offer. I’d say that’s more major than any major conference bottom feeder.
Solid player with good court awareness and instincts. Will need to build his strength as he doesn’t have elite quickness. He can be a good one but will need to develop.
I’ll add that he looks to have a nice stroke from 3. We need shooters! And he will need to be an outside threat to complete his game, and penetrate when they are forced to guard the 3.
I’ll add that he looks to have a nice stroke from 3. We need shooters! And he will need to be an outside threat to complete his game, and penetrate when they are forced to guard the 3.
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Miller looks goooood. Love how he can go left and finish left. Not just layups but creative up and under finishes, euro steps etc since finishing around the rim in the B1G isn't easy. Nice looking form on the jumper. Some real nice vision on some of those passes. Hopefully a plus defender. Should be a solid backup PG as a freshman with definite upside potential
You guys forgot Towson, Iona, Lehigh, NC Greensboro, Elon, Colgate, Central Arkansas and a few others.
So Wichita State is on the same level as NC Greensboro in basketball?
Is that what you are going with?
Are you willing to commit to the statement?
You also forgot James Madison, Loyola and Niagara. Bryant's in there. That's where we got our baseball coach. And Akron.