Rutgers to REQUIRE all in person students to be vaccinated this fall

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That's a softball.

The fewer adults weaseling out of getting vaccinated, the better off we'll all be.

Oh, and if they're then able to go on and get an RU education and not become a financial and mental drain on society like, well, you, that'd just be icing.

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18-22 , follow the science, not your govt gods
 

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Not really. My employer told us yesterday the shot is not mandatory . They will give us a $100 bonus if we get it . But many of us are passing on the cash . Not worth it to get a needle put in my arm for something that is going to cause the common cold like all the other covid's .


you mean they are not giving a year supply of donuts
 
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I think the chances of an otherwise perfectly healthy 18-22 year old suffering serious complications from either disease are extremely small. However, if it’s more deadly for people who are otherwise comprised, and then that results in more total deaths, then that results in the disease being more deadly.

I really don’t buy into ‘if you’re not old or sick this isn’t serious’ line because:

(1) America has a lot of old people who meaningfully participate in society, and can’t be expected to hide for the rest of their existence;

(2) America has a lot of people living active lives with health issues that are thought to increase the likelihood of serious complications;

(3) there appears to be a randomness associated with some serious cases that may be caused by conditions we don’t otherwise consider to be “issues” (low vitamin d, strong inflammatory response to disease, low melatonin, etc.) so it’s hard to truly know at this point all who are at risk.

Therefore, healthy or otherwise, we should all be getting vaccinated to protect these folks and ourselves.


and these folks should be getting vaccinated and if they are why is there such handwringing about those who do not. If you trust the vaccine, all those who get it dont have to worry
 
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I have never, and will never call for a poster to get banned. That said, when you are losing an argument and openly call for someone, you only think you know to die, that is a bridge to far. Some posters should think about a self time out to grow up. A few people, on one side seem to have a new religion. Other than that a very interesting read.
 

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Fascinating that the people who were screaming HERD IMMUNITY six months ago now seem to have forgotten the term.

If we're able to reach it without the anti-vaxxers, great; I'll never think about them again. If not, they had better grow a set - or borrow someone else's - and get the little prick in the arm so we can move on the way they've been whining about doing since two and half weeks after it all started last March.
 
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and these folks should be getting vaccinated and if they are why is there such handwringing about those who do not. If you trust the vaccine, all those who get it dont have to worry

If we don’t vaccinate a critical mass, the vaccine will lose effectiveness as the virus will continue to spread and mutate unmitigated among the rest of the population.

In 1919, you either lived or died, and that was it. If the virus killed its host, that was bad for the virus, if the person lived, their immune system defeated the virus. We now have people living on vents with live virus mutating in their compromised immune system for months. Our improved medicine is actually giving the virus an advantage in that sense; however, we have the vaccine to combat this, so that people stop getting sick and put on vents (providing opportunity for rapid, wild mutations), and the virus runs out of viable hosts...we should use aggressively.
 

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There is a huge amount of difference in the risk from Covid between elderly people (especially those with additional underlying conditions) and for example, healthy school age children. I didn't say no one should be getting this under the Emergency Use Authorization, it makes sense for some populations.

There isn't zero risk for children, but not enough that I would want my kids to incur any risk of adverse events just to vaccinate against something which has overwhelming odds of being a non-issue for them.

That's why I asked who "some" meant. Your stance is reasonable for your children. Goes back to the risk/reward for any age and we (the adults) are mostly all capable of making our own decisions regarding the vaccine. Parents are faced with that decision for their children who are minors.
 
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Like all the other covids this will turn into a cold.
Over enough years, yes. But that is not the case now and will not be for some time. The more people delay getting vaccinated, the more risk we run of never getting to that point.
 
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Over enough years, yes. But that is not the case now and will not be for some time. The more people delay getting vaccinated, the more risk we run of never getting to that point.

Who's delaying?

I know seniors that can't get a shot in NJ. And they want one.
Yes. Risk of vaccine is several in a million. Risk of that person having a serious issue with covid is far, far more likely.

No way we know that in March 2021.
 

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Talk for yourself shorty.

You're the one scared of the 99% RONA.

Imagine telling anyone 18-year old they have to get a non- approved shot for something that will give them a cold.

Can't reason with your kind.
Utah seems like a good fit for ya though

Not scared for myself at all. And 18-year-olds have to get all kinds of shots. Luckily, most aren't giant pansies and get it done without so much as a lolly for their trouble.

Least you could do is give them a lolly afterward. Maybe you'll even bank a tip!
 
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If we don’t vaccinate a critical mass, the vaccine will lose effectiveness as the virus will continue to spread and mutate unmitigated among the rest of the population.

In 1919, you either lived or died, and that was it. If the virus killed its host, that was bad for the virus, if the person lived, their immune system defeated the virus. We now have people living on vents with live virus mutating in their compromised immune system for months. Our improved medicine is actually giving the virus an advantage in that sense; however, we have the vaccine to combat this, so that people stop getting sick and put on vents (providing opportunity for rapid, wild mutations), and the virus runs out of viable hosts...we should use aggressively.

Source?
 

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Average covid death age is over 80, longer than US life expectancy. I wonder where the flu has gone, as well as how many people have or will die because a curable cancer was not caught? I worry about a loss of freedoms. Before, any of you hate on me, I say this even though I lost a family member to it. Just think, once we lose rights, like the right to decide for ourselves, we never get it back. Look at privacy to name one.
 
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Not scared for myself at all. And 18-year-olds have to get all kinds of shots. Luckily, most aren't giant pansies and get it done without so much as a lolly for their trouble.

Least you could do is give them a lolly afterward. Maybe you'll even bank a tip!



Stay locked inside and you'll be safe and sound.

Real men don't live scared of 99% and care about what is injected in themselves.

Notice how you always make things personal cuz you have no substance in your points.

18-22 year olds, stay on point , they shouldn't be penalized cuz their choice is no needle.
 

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Average covid death age is over 80, longer than US life expectancy. I wonder where the flu has gone, as well as how many people have or will die because a curable cancer was not caught? I worry about a loss of freedoms. Before, any of you hate on me, I say this even though I lost a family member to it. Just think, once we lose rights, like the right to decide for ourselves, we never get it back. Look at privacy to name one.

Like the one that already requires multiple vaccines? That Right?
 
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Stay locked inside and you'll be safe and sound.

Real men don't live scared of 99% and care about what is injected in themselves.

Notice how you always make things personal cuz you have no substance in your points.

18-22 year olds, stay on point , they shouldn't be penalized cuz their choice is no needle.

Real men do things for the good of others, not just themselves. I'll happily get a shot knowing that it will help protect others and help get us back on track toward the normalcy you keep whining about but do absolutely nothing to help realize.

You keep crying about how unfair it all is ... manly!
 

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Are flu shots a mandatory requirement as well? Because COVID is less deadly to these kids than flu and asymptotic spread isn't a real thing.

What happened to my body my choice? I guess killing the unborn is ok, but avoiding a harmless flu is not?
Did you go to college with that level of intelligence on display?
 
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Stay locked inside and you'll be safe and sound.

Real men don't live scared of 99% and care about what is injected in themselves.

Notice how you always make things personal cuz you have no substance in your points.

18-22 year olds, stay on point , they shouldn't be penalized cuz their choice is no needle.
he's using the term "real men" as if he is one. real men have jobs and contribute to society. not sit and whine like a pansy.
 

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Not scared for myself at all. And 18-year-olds have to get all kinds of shots. Luckily, most aren't giant pansies and get it done without so much as a lolly for their trouble.

Least you could do is give them a lolly afterward. Maybe you'll even bank a tip!
No 18 year olds have been getting shot up with something that’s been approved for just a few weeks. That might be why they’re not acting like pansies
 
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so mandating a non fda approved vaccine to go inside someones body, which by the way does not even give you immunization and remember influenza is a bigger threat to this 18-22 year old age group
So far, what I've read and seen about those now getting the virus and requiring hospital admission -- virtually none of them had gotten the shot . Even the small number who have gotten the shot and still came down with the virus have very mild symptons ---so you have to to be a fool not to be vaccinated even if you are under age 21
 

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the irony will be them requiring vaccines but also requiring masks.....and then reasoning is that it will prevent the flu

agree or disagree, will students be wearing masks on campus in class
 

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But will it mutate faster than you grow from old AF to old AFer?

You should be more concerned.
Too busy worrying about my son playing baseball this year to be concerned about this virus that IF I do get I will be fine !
P.S. The reason he might not play baseball this year is because the people that run the Cal Ripken league in Mount Olive have destroyed it over the years. They had to bring in about 6 teams from Hackettstown 3 or 4 years ago because of the lack of interest in town . Plus a lot of other options for kids during the same time of year , soccer , lacrosse etc. So before anyone says it is because of the virus I can tell them differently .
 

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I think killing an unborn child may be a tad worse than contracting or spreading a virus with higher than a 99% survival rate but that’s just my crazy opinion

It is just your opinion, doesn't affect the point that it works both ways, and still has nothing whatsoever to do with this particular subject.

But points for doubling down on the dumbest dead-end non-argument in the thread, six pages later.
 

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It is just your opinion, doesn't affect the point that it works both ways, and still has nothing whatsoever to do with this particular subject.

But points for doubling down on the dumbest dead-end non-argument in the thread, six pages later.
It’s a dumb argument to you because it completely destroys your idea that people should be forced to do it...
 
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