Top Possible Transfers...Who U Like

[Shell21]

Tyson Walker a PG from Northeastern with 2 years to play would be a nice target IMO.

LI kid----played at Christ The King----nice player.

Could be a nice target . Kid can score and averaged almost 5 assists a game. Only 35 percent from 3 not great though and on the smaller side from what pike usually likes.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

I assume you mean Loyola of Baltimore ?

Because the Loyola of Chicago kid just used an NBA Top 15 pick

If Harrar is as good as him he should enter the Draft.

He played extremely well on the offensive end and got some very timely steals off of Illinois guards on the defensive side, but Kofi scored a game high 21 and was 1 rebound away from a double double.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Exactly, Harrar makes RHJ a 3.

Go watch a few PSU games. Harrar does not make RHJ a 3. Show me a team still playing in the NCAA has a 4 and 5 that can’t shoot outside of 5 feet.

you guys with the Harrar at the 4..........i Really dont know what game you are watching.

 

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PGs PGs PGs

1. Pitt point guard Xavier Johnson
2. This guy looks very interesting too-no reason can't recruit up against Sparty now.
   Michigan State basketball showing interest in Northeastern transfer PG Tyson Walker (msn.com)
   

Can hardly wait for someone to knock Izzo's block off (He chased Brown at the end of the half in Sparty loss...just a matter of time).

MO

 

[ejgonz]

Go watch a few PSU games. Harrar does not make RHJ a 3. Show me a team still playing in the NCAA has a 4 and 5 that can’t shoot outside of 5 feet.

you guys with the Harrar at the 4..........i Really dont know what game you are watching.

I hear you but we had Eugene who was an old school 4.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I assume you mean Loyola of Baltimore ?

Because the Loyola of Chicago kid just used an NBA Top 15 pick

If Harrar is as good as him he should enter the Draft.

He's not. No way in hell. He's also not a 4.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I hear you but we had Eugene who was an old school 4.

Yeah but Eugene could definitely defend on the perimeter.

 

[bac2therac]

You guys should REALLY temper expectations. Marcus Carr is not coming to Rutgers. He'd go pro before going to Rutgers. Neither is Mashburn, or any player getting attention from Michigan State level programs. Be realistic fellas.

Nailed it

And as Hawk basically said Carr not a good fit for a Pikiell coached team

 

[MadRU]

Don’t think anyone is saying Carr is coming to Rutgers, or Mashburn either. As I said previously I would be surprised if Carr didn’t go pro.

Also there were some people that said Jacob Young wouldn’t be a fit for a Pikiell team. Until a player proves otherwise I would not say they don’t fit 100%. Would have been interesting to see how Carr played alongside of Baker and Harper.

 

[biazza38]

Nailed it

And as Hawk basically said Carr not a good fit for a Pikiell coached team

Is it because he scores? Just kidding. But yeah we were never getting him. There’s a ton of talent in the portal. Pike better land some guys

 

[brad1218]

Nailed it

And as Hawk basically said Carr not a good fit for a Pikiell coached team

I actually disagree with him. Not the Carr, but the MSU level part. We have to stop thinking like that. At this point we have the facilities, we have made the tournament and shown we are a top 40 team. We have a proven, player friendly coach. No reason we can't win recruiting battles at this point against the best. I am not saying we will win every one of them, but the days of saying we are out of it because Michigan State is interested should be over. I mean to be fair we have beaten out teams in the past for big time recruits prior to making this run. Jaden Jones could have gone anywhere.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I hear you but we had Eugene who was an old school 4.

He shot 3s his last year AMS we didn’t dance with him

 

[rufeelinit]

Getting a little ahead of ourselves with some of you advocating the bringing in of multiple new guys? Need a lot of attrition to facilitate this. I am not looking to incite another round of speculation on who might be leaving but even if JY is gone, we don't currently have room. We should have a better idea after the tournament is done with regard to whom is available and who might be leaving.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Go watch a few PSU games. Harrar does not make RHJ a 3. Show me a team still playing in the NCAA has a 4 and 5 that can’t shoot outside of 5 feet.

you guys with the Harrar at the 4..........i Really dont know what game you are watching.

Thank you. Lots of people think this the Parrish/McHale days. Almost no one has the prototypical C and PF model any longer. Usually one “Big” is enough and often he is very athletic and can shoot and stretch the D. Myles Johnson works for our team as it’s currently constructed but his type of Center as the norm has been going the way of the dinosaur for a while....and you rarely see it paired with a physical banging PF. Lots of good teams going FFGGG or even FGGGG without a center at all.

 

[Plum Street]

It’s funny , everyone here is basically saying we will be in on all these good guys and not one of our good guys will possibly enter the portal . Sounds like sports radio callers that want the Mets to trade a bag of balls for trout. .

 

[80RU]

Carr is a chucker who sees nobody on offense.....there's a reason Pitino got fired, Carr shoots themselves out of so many games....

Mashburn is a player, but I am more interested in front court players and more reliable guards. A steady Yeboah type isn't going to wow you with hogging the ball, but brings the team concepts back together.

Harrar would be a good piece to add, he is the team first guy RU really needs on the glass.

Carr has a career average of 5 assists per game, which is about 50% more than anyone at RU. And two years ago, when he had a better team, the average was 6.5 assists per game, which is double what anybody at RU has had in recent memory. His career three point average is decent — about 34%. His ceiling is very high. With Pike coaching him, instead of little Ricky, he could be spectacular. He could play two years. I think he is a no-brainer.

 

[Knightmoves]

Carr has a career average of 5 assists per game, which is about 50% more than anyone at RU. And two years ago, when he had a better team, the average was 6.5 assists per game, which is double what anybody at RU has had in recent memory. His career three point average is decent — about 34%. His ceiling is very high. With Pike coaching him, instead of little Ricky, he could be spectacular. He could play two years. I think he is a no-brainer.

Good post. Look at Oregon with EO and LJ Figueroa from St Johns from the portal/transfers. It is working there.

A combination of the portal and hs recruiting is key to staying competitive imo.

 

[Plum Street]

Carr has a career average of 5 assists per game, which is about 50% more than anyone at RU. And two years ago, when he had a better team, the average was 6.5 assists per game, which is double what anybody at RU has had in recent memory. His career three point average is decent — about 34%. His ceiling is very high. With Pike coaching him, instead of little Ricky, he could be spectacular. He could play two years. I think he is a no-brainer.

Does care want to come here ?

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Tyson Walker will have the entire planet chasing him

The Davidson kid Grady is probably a Seth Curry to Duke scenario (not Steph Curry, the other brother Seth who started at Liberty for 1 year and transferred up to Duke).

The big kid and Top 25 7 footer, Walker Kessler is halfway to Spokane Washington by now, heading to Gonzaga.....UNC may see some other transfers out as Roy Williams tries to navigate not getting playing time for everyone.

The number of quality kids is high and RU can upgrade and become more versatile without a splash name. I think RU should stay the course of player development and patch with a transfer here or there.

I know fans are wondering about Jaden Jones.....I think the more minutes he sees next year, the better RU will be in January and February 2022. He can be the 3rd guard and just offers an option at 1, 2 and 3 on any single possession, just like Mulcahy and Caleb. The next 7 months of strength and conditioning for Jaden who just turned 18, is going to be great for him. Between Cliff and Jaden, there are options there going forward, without asking either player to be the 1st or 2nd options right away like 3 to 4 years ago with the core group we have now.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Thank you. Lots of people think this the Parrish/McHale days. Almost no one has the prototypical C and PF model any longer. Usually one “Big” is enough and often he is very athletic and can shoot and stretch the D. Myles Johnson works for our team as it’s currently constructed but his type of Center as the norm has been going the way of the dinosaur for a while....and you rarely see it paired with a physical banging PF. Lots of good teams going FFGGG or even FGGGG without a center at all.

Picture how we would defend Clemson or Houston with Baker (Mathis or Caleb) Harper Harrar (Myles or Cliff). On offense in these tournaments how many points are being scored with big men? B1G with all these great big men are all sitting home except Michigan.

I am not minimizing how big of a problem rebounding is/was. That needs to be fixed by having more than Harper and the 5 getting rebounds. When Caleb is on the floor rebounding becomes less of a problem. Unfortunately Caleb on the floor leads to deficiencies in other places.

We like all teams, with the exception of a small few, have problems. You have to be very cognizant of whether fixing one leads to a bigger one somewhere else.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Carr has a career average of 5 assists per game, which is about 50% more than anyone at RU. And two years ago, when he had a better team, the average was 6.5 assists per game, which is double what anybody at RU has had in recent memory. His career three point average is decent — about 34%. His ceiling is very high. With Pike coaching him, instead of little Ricky, he could be spectacular. He could play two years. I think he is a no-brainer.

If I had my hands on the basketball as much as Carr I'd have 5 assists per game.

Pike knows what he is doing here. I trust he will bring in the right type of players. If the entire roster minus Cliff and Myles were turned over I'd feel confident we'd have a decent team next year.

 

[bigmatt718]

Isn’t Harare from the Del -Mar areas

Harrar is from suburban Philly...DelCo.

 

[ruman]

Keep an eye on Scottie Lewis...

Am I doing that because you hope - or you know something - just asking

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Go watch a few PSU games. Harrar does not make RHJ a 3. Show me a team still playing in the NCAA has a 4 and 5 that can’t shoot outside of 5 feet.

you guys with the Harrar at the 4..........i Really dont know what game you are watching.

Florida State just made their third straight Sweet 16 with that type of lineup. They play 6’8” Raiquan Gray, who shoots 26.7% from 3 point rage, at power forward and they have a 7’1” center.

They play tough defense, crash the boards hard and play fast on offense. It’s a lot like Pikiell’s philosophy.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Florida State just made their third straight Sweet 16 with that type of lineup. They play 6’8” Raiquan Gray, who shoots 26.7% from 3 point rage, at power forward and they have a 7’1” center.

They play tough defense, crash the boards hard and play fast on offense. It’s a lot like Pikiell’s philosophy.

Raiquan Gray has to be guarded on the perimeter, correct? Does he play facing the basket or with his back to the basket.

With Harrar we are talking about Myles Johnson offensively. We don't want him dribbling. We don't want him shooting outside the paint.

The only argument to make, assuming Myles is coming back, is that Cliff's offensive game is evolving and by next year he will be a guy that can make a perimeter shoot AND be a guy we are comfortable driving to the paint. Essentially Cliff would be a modern day 4.

 

[bitnez]

Wilcher is the kind of player we could get but it's playing time issue for him. If Geo comes back will he be content to fight for minutes for another year? Who knows.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I find it fascinating the obsession with John Harrar.

 

[snowboarder]

I also believe that cliff will one day be able to play 4
Cliff looks ver comfortable shooting a jump shot and has a nice touch around the rim
If cliff develops into a reliable shooter, which I think he can, watch out for cliff and miles together
We will own the boards

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

I find it fascinating the obsession with John Harrar.

He's really good. He is also pikes kinda guy. Blue collar, rebounds, plays tough D.

Here are some of his stats nationally and by conference

offensive efficiency: 119th nationally, 8th in B1G
Offensive rebound %: 9th national, 1st in B1G
Defensive rebound %: 47th national, 3rd in B1G
Free throw rate: 4th national, 1st B1G (he gets to the line)
True shooting %: 184th national, 9th in B1G

if we are being honest, hes an upgrade over myles and frankly I dont think it’s even arguable

 

[RUby RED]

He's really good. He is also pikes kinda guy. Blue collar, rebounds, plays tough D.

Here are some of his stats nationally and by conference

offensive efficiency: 119th nationally, 8th in B1G
Offensive rebound %: 9th national, 1st in B1G
Defensive rebound %: 47th national, 3rd in B1G
Free throw rate: 4th national, 1st B1G (he gets to the line)
True shooting %: 184th national, 9th in B1G

if we are being honest, hes an upgrade over myles and frankly I dont think it’s even arguable

Uhhhhh no. In near identical minutes, they average very similar point/rebound numbers — with Myles shooting a decent amount higher from the field (63% vs. 55%).

Where the two players are vastly different is on the defensive end. Myles is the top defensive big in the B1G, and likely one of the top 5 in the entire country. Harrar is anything but — he may be stout down low, but he trails Myles in steals (1.1 vs. 0.6), blocks (2.4 vs. 0.3!!!), and pretty much every advanced metric.

It’s not close who you’d rather have on this team — and I’d bet damn near every coach in the country would rather have Myles. I’m not trying to marginalize the importance of offensive rebounding, but Myles has a way more significant two way impact

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Raiquan Gray has to be guarded on the perimeter, correct? Does he play facing the basket or with his back to the basket.

With Harrar we are talking about Myles Johnson offensively. We don't want him dribbling. We don't want him shooting outside the paint.

The only argument to make, assuming Myles is coming back, is that Cliff's offensive game is evolving and by next year he will be a guy that can make a perimeter shoot AND be a guy we are comfortable driving to the paint. Essentially Cliff would be a modern day 4.

Because Leonard Hamilton runs a motion offense when they’re in the half court, it’s both. When he gets the ball on the perimeter, he’ll drive to the bucket or find a good pass. Other times, he’s on the low block with their center setting a high ball screen. Their guard drives and if the layup is contested, he’ll either kick it for an open 3 or dish it to Gray for an easy slam. He gets a lot of baskets in transition trailing the guards though.

FSU plays 3 guards that all have the ability to score, an athletic but poor shooting forward in Gray and a center. With Harrar next to Johnson, he can be that guy on the low block, getting easy layups after the defense over helps and grabbing a ton of offensive rebounds. We’re obviously not going to shoot the lights out so we need that second guy that can hit the glass.

 

[Gudenham]

I actually disagree with him. Not the Carr, but the MSU level part. We have to stop thinking like that. At this point we have the facilities, we have made the tournament and shown we are a top 40 team. We have a proven, player friendly coach. No reason we can't win recruiting battles at this point against the best. I am not saying we will win every one of them, but the days of saying we are out of it because Michigan State is interested should be over. I mean to be fair we have beaten out teams in the past for big time recruits prior to making this run. Jaden Jones could have gone anywhere.

Michigan State is a blue blood program with a Hall of Fame coach that went to 23 consecutive NCAA Tournaments and is a top-10, national contending program every year. This season was their worst in a quarter century and they still made the NCAA Tournament.

Rutgers is nowhere CLOSE to being as attractive an option. One run to the second round of the NCAA Tournament certainly helps, but not that much. Don't delude yourself.

 

[Gudenham]

He's really good. He is also pikes kinda guy. Blue collar, rebounds, plays tough D.

Here are some of his stats nationally and by conference

offensive efficiency: 119th nationally, 8th in B1G
Offensive rebound %: 9th national, 1st in B1G
Defensive rebound %: 47th national, 3rd in B1G
Free throw rate: 4th national, 1st B1G (he gets to the line)
True shooting %: 184th national, 9th in B1G

if we are being honest, hes an upgrade over myles and frankly I dont think it’s even arguable

He's not better than Myles (though I can be convinced, it's close) but I think Pikiell would love to play him at the four. Him and Cliff would swallow up rebounds.

 

[shields]

Foul shooting is better than Myles also, around 65% I believe.

 

[brad1218]

Michigan State is a blue blood program with a Hall of Fame coach that went to 23 consecutive NCAA Tournaments and is a top-10, national contending program every year. This season was their worst in a quarter century and they still made the NCAA Tournament.

Rutgers is nowhere CLOSE to being as attractive an option. One run to the second round of the NCAA Tournament certainly helps, but not that much. Don't delude yourself.

Agree to disagree...

 

[CHR2022]

Royce Hamm transferring from Texas, JY just retweeted it and im sure will put in a good word if Pike and staff are interested. 6'9 230 former 4 star, seems to fit the criteria of a more traditional 4 many of you are asking for.

 

[TDIrish27]

Tyson Walker will have the entire planet chasing him

The Davidson kid Grady is probably a Seth Curry to Duke scenario (not Steph Curry, the other brother Seth who started at Liberty for 1 year and transferred up to Duke).

The big kid and Top 25 7 footer, Walker Kessler is halfway to Spokane Washington by now, heading to Gonzaga.....UNC may see some other transfers out as Roy Williams tries to navigate not getting playing time for everyone.

The number of quality kids is high and RU can upgrade and become more versatile without a splash name. I think RU should stay the course of player development and patch with a transfer here or there.

I know fans are wondering about Jaden Jones.....I think the more minutes he sees next year, the better RU will be in January and February 2022. He can be the 3rd guard and just offers an option at 1, 2 and 3 on any single possession, just like Mulcahy and Caleb. The next 7 months of strength and conditioning for Jaden who just turned 18, is going to be great for him. Between Cliff and Jaden, there are options there going forward, without asking either player to be the 1st or 2nd options right away like 3 to 4 years ago with the core group we have now.

You really think Walker will get that kind of traffic ?

 

[ColonelRutgers]

It’s funny , everyone here is basically saying we will be in on all these good guys and not one of our good guys will possibly enter the portal . Sounds like sports radio callers that want the Mets to trade a bag of balls for trout. .

The difference, which isn't hard to comprehend, is that unlike anyone on our current roster, these guys are actually in the transfer portal. No one is saying that all of our good guys will be back. Quite the opposite.

 

[Plum Street]

The difference, which isn't hard to comprehend, is that unlike anyone on our current roster, these guys are actually in the transfer portal. No one is saying that all of our good guys will be back. Quite the opposite.

Our season just ended 2 days ago. They still gotta meet with their handlers and assess their situations. Then decide what is best for them.