That appears to be the position of the NCAA as well. My opinion is that position wont work out the way you/the NCAA would like it to.
*shrugs shoulders*
That appears to be the position of the NCAA as well. My opinion is that position wont work out the way you/the NCAA would like it to.
More than zero. How many Cade Cunningham jerseys without Oklahoma State would sell? How many Zion Williamson jerseys without Duke? How many autographs could Geo sell? How many autographs could Brian Leonard have sold? How many NCAA Basketball video games get sold with no player names or likenesses?
Geo would never be able to pay his tuition if he was reliant on selling his autograph to do so.
Huh? Not sure what that means. I don't think anyone is proposing they would lose their scholarships. If that is what you believe the rules should be and it is a purely open market, than what would the highest bidder have paid for him after his sophomore/junior year? What would Rutgers have paid to keep him?
Exactly my point. Rutgers can't compete in this professional environment.
Your post agrees they are being compensated already. Roughly $500k for four years of service. What revenue has Geo Baker generated to the school for that investment? That's the number that needs to be known.
If they want to be taken as professionals, then let's have professional discussions.
I agree that Rutgers can't compete. Most schools wont be able to compete. Haves and have nots. It is why I argue the NCAA should get their heads out of their arses and deliver a system that allows athletes to be compensated while maintaining an ability to retain some competitive balance. If not the courts are going to open it up fully. Probably sooner rather than later. And that is bad for Rutgers. In my opinion anyone arguing against the NCAA not taking the appropriate steps regarding athlete compensation after seeing what the courts have decided is not arguing in Rutgers best interest. These rulings are not getting overturned by SCOTUS nor are they going to be solved by Congressional legislation. The NCAA needs to read the tea leaves and get ahead of this. It's a losing proposition not to do so.
Unfortunately hoping the NCAA gets it right in just about any instance has proven to be disappointing.
Gotta give them credit. At least they are focused on something, even if it isn't basketball.
Yes. I’m saying it’s not bad to compensate them but there are going to be terrible consequences because of it. Image a team of all five stars. Even the bench players bc if they are all making a million a year do they care. Isn’t this what European soccer teams do. Just buy players to just sit on the bench so no one else can have them. Rutgers would become terrible.
Flinging 60 3's a game isn't strategyIf someone is bored by the modern NBA they truly hate basketball. It has surpassed the NCAA in strategy.
Wow man. Wow. That's what you think? You mean on the subject of NIL or in general as fan
Does even one RU fan think that Geo’s tweets enhance our chances of beating Clemson?
In the back of my mind I can’t wait for this to be over and begin planning for next season.So much for celebrating our first NCAA appearance in 30 years.
Beat Clemson or look like current day woke progressive players.
Not a distraction.
Totally focused.
Frustration over perceived exploitation may lead to player strike during NCAA Tournament: Auerbach – The Athletic
Some of you are absolute idiots.
eventuallyAnyone else think there’s a chance they protest and don’t play? I really think there’s an outside shot they don’t play.
So then why are we using amateur status rules as an excuse to prevent them from doing things anyone else would be allowed to do?
Ok, then I stand by my Oh wow man. And I'll add a SMH.In general, for the most part. Rutgers basketball players don't exist to make me happy.
It's because if there was ever going to be a time where the entire Rutgers Basketball fanbase was unified and supportive, it was now ... and he (and RHJ) elected to use this period of unique unity and be divisive by pushing one side of a divisive issue. Additionally, it solidifies the perception of some in the fanbase (rightly or wrongly) that these kids are not 100% focused on winning basketball games.
They took a moment that will come around every 30 years or so and pissed it away to push politics.
Ok, then I stand by my Oh wow man. And I'll add a SMH.
Far cry between reason to exist and not giving a xXxX.
I'd dare one of them to come out and say that. And I don't think any would because I don't believe that. .
No, that's why I asked you which part you meant. You said in general.What? You think they care what fans think about their political stances?
Does even one RU fan think that Geo’s tweets enhance our chances of beating Clemson?
In the back of my mind I can’t wait for this to be over and begin planning for next season.So much for celebrating our first NCAA appearance in 30 years.
Beat Clemson or look like current day woke progressive players.
Its shocking seeing all the other team's coaches and players going on about how excited they are to be I, the tourney..and for a team that got screwed last year, and finally ended the longest drought..you get this.Does even one RU fan think that Geo’s tweets enhance our chances of beating Clemson?
In the back of my mind I can’t wait for this to be over and begin planning for next season.So much for celebrating our first NCAA appearance in 30 years.
Beat Clemson or look like current day woke progressive players.
Its shocking seeing all the other team's coaches and players going on about how excited they are to be I, the tourney..and for a team that got screwed last year, and finally ended the longest drought..you get this.
BTN live this morning played a clip of players and coaches comments. Mark t. From Mary, Garza, 1 or 2 other players, all super excited. Coach Brad says he's on 2nd season of Peeky the Netflix show. Last comment. RHJ.. "Been locked up for 3 days and excited to get on the bus. "
LMAOHuh? Not sure what that means. I don't think anyone is proposing they would lose their scholarships. If that is what you believe the rules should be and it is a purely open market, than what would the highest bidder have paid for him after his sophomore/junior year? What would Rutgers have paid to keep him?
I can assure you both numbers would be more than the cost of an education at any College or University.
I don’t believe it helps us against Clemson, but I don’t think it hurts us.Does even one RU fan think that Geo’s tweets enhance our chances of beating Clemson?
In the back of my mind I can’t wait for this to be over and begin planning for next season.So much for celebrating our first NCAA appearance in 30 years.
Beat Clemson or look like current day woke progressive players.
I don’t believe it helps us against Clemson, but I don’t think it hurts us.
I agree they should be paid to do that but how does it not become a bidding war?Geo specifically said he wants to control his name and likeness.
He said nothing about the school compensating him or being paid.
That’s called NIL
Name, Image, Likeness.
I’m here to tell you Geo’s NIL is worthless.
His services are not worthless, if someone wants to pay him to teach at a camp, or pay him for any services he provides, he should be paid what someone is prepared to pay him
Yea European soccer teams do that there is precedent that the system works.
if someone wants to pay him to teach at a camp, or pay him for any services he provides, he should be paid what someone is prepared to pay him
I’m not talking about his playing services.I agree they should be paid to do that but how does it not become a bidding war?
Players are not being paid to play, or come to your university.Then the $10 million to buy out Pitino goes to pay players instead...maybe setting ceilings would work - but then again some teams will still put cash in McDonald’s bags...
With the benefit of hindsight I would love to be a D1 athlete and have all the benefits...hell just graduating debt free would have been amazing.
Presume there are a number of labor lawyers who stand to make a pretty penny off of this effort...
Flinging 60 3's a game isn't strategy
We already have the alternative ... it's called the NBA. Every single current college basketball player could have applied for the NBA draft last year and took their chances in professional basketball. Instead, they elected to take the deal offered by their university (free education, housing and food in exchange for performing on the basketball team and following NCAA rules). College basketball isn't an industry. Professional basketball is an industry, of which NCAA college basketball is a subset.
Geo specifically said he wants to control his name and likeness.
He said nothing about the school compensating him or being paid.
That’s called NIL
Name, Image, Likeness.
I’m here to tell you Geo’s NIL is worthless.
His services are not worthless, if someone wants to pay him to teach at a camp, or pay him for any services he provides, he should be paid what someone is prepared to pay him
I think net net college athletics loses money. Any solution that doesn’t reduce coaching pay won’t leave much money.I agree that Rutgers can't compete. Most schools wont be able to compete. Haves and have nots. It is why I argue the NCAA should get their heads out of their arses and deliver a system that allows athletes to be compensated while maintaining an ability to retain some competitive balance. If not the courts are going to open it up fully. Probably sooner rather than later. And that is bad for Rutgers. In my opinion anyone arguing against the NCAA not taking the appropriate steps regarding athlete compensation after seeing what the courts have decided is not arguing in Rutgers best interest. These rulings are not getting overturned by SCOTUS nor are they going to be solved by Congressional legislation. The NCAA needs to read the tea leaves and get ahead of this. It's a losing proposition not to do so.
Unfortunately hoping the NCAA gets it right in just about any instance has proven to be disappointing.
Is Rutgers going on strike?Not a distraction.
Totally focused.
Frustration over perceived exploitation may lead to player strike during NCAA Tournament: Auerbach – The Athletic
Some of you are absolute idiots.