The BC search

[RU72]

I view it as a more difficult job than Rutgers when Steve took over. No one cares about hoops there,the facilities are circa 1980 and it is an awful Conference fit.Here is how it should play out:

Flirt with Beilein and Tommy. Both say no.Beilein does not want a rebuild. Tommy has a better job.

It comes down to Howard Eisley,Mark Schmidt and James Jones. Too tough to call at that juncture,but 2 of them are BC grads.

 

[rufeelinit]

Is the thinking that Beilein will get back in for next year? He has had success everywhere he has been. Except of course the NBA. Not sure what he was thinking there. While not a great situation for us, Penn State should be all over him. Although JB will be patient and have his pick of jobs.

Schmidt has done a nice job at St. Bonaventure. Is he the other BC grad besides Eisely?

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

It’s still a power 5 job and a name school. More so than Rutgers was and frankly still is. They’ll get someone decent.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

If the Boston College Liars are really serious about having a good program, their top two choices have to be Craig Littlepage and Eddie Jordan. Name Fred Gruninger AD.

 

[bac2therac]

Its a terrible job and they should move back to the Big East

 

[bac2therac]

Is the thinking that Beilein will get back in for next year? He has had success everywhere he has been. Except of course the NBA. Not sure what he was thinking there. While not a great situation for us, Penn State should be all over him. Although JB will be patient and have his pick of jobs.

Schmidt has done a nice job at St. Bonaventure. Is he the other BC grad besides Eisely?

Why would he go to weak schools like BC or Penn State.

He will get 10x better offers in the next 2 years

 

[Mr_Twister]

Schmidt is the obvious choice. Another great choice would be Seton Hall’s Kevin Willard.

 

[RU72]

Willard is not taking BC. He and Beilein will have many offers next season among:
Northwestern
Georgetown
Maryland
Georgia
ND
Arizona
Northwestern
Syracuse
LSU
Wichita State
Stanford

 

[RU_Travesty]

Willard is not taking BC. He and Beilein will have many offers next season among:
Northwestern
Georgetown
Maryland
Georgia
ND
Arizona
Northwestern
Syracuse
LSU
Wichita State
Stanford

Boeheim won’t retire until his son graduates and Collins isn’t going anywhere for year no matter how bad Northwestern is

 

[bac2therac]

Willard is not taking BC. He and Beilein will have many offers next season among:
Northwestern
Georgetown
Maryland
Georgia
ND
Arizona
Northwestern
Syracuse
LSU
Wichita State
Stanford

Maryland would be a pefect fit

 

[Scarlet Shack]

James Jones feels like a good hire. They need a coach that can win with 150-300 ranked kids and has a track record for developing players ...

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Beilen could get any job he wants when he decides the time is right to come back. Taking BC would be silly for him.

 

[rufeelinit]

Given that he is 68 now, if Beilein is getting back in I would assume he is taking a job this year. That was quite a list of potential openings 72 had. Think Brey is done at ND? Is this Ewing's third year? Would seem a little quick to dump him given his status at Georgetown. Doesn't feel like Crean has been at Georgia too long either.

 

[RUPete]

It’s still a power 5 job and a name school. More so than Rutgers was and frankly still is. They’ll get someone decent.

Still is? Um, no.

 

[RUPete]

The Willard, Beilein and Ewing suggestions for this job are ridiculous. They would all be leaving better basketball jobs for that. Beilein would get huge offers from bigger schools. Seton Hall and G-town are better hoops jobs than BC.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

The brainer seems to be eisley. BC alum, NBA, college experience with a great program, with a HC from NBA.

 

[G- RUnit]

The no brainer is the other JB, no not Jimmy Buffett but John Becker. Proven winner at Vermont. Just like Pike.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Its a terrible job and they should move back to the Big East

That makes perfect sense.

Leave the ACC and lose $25 million plus per year......lol.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

That’s one of the worst P5 jobs there is. They need an up and coming coach from a lower conference or a re-tread who has fallen out of favor.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Still is? Um, no.

Sorry, but until we make the NCAA multiple years it sure as hell is.

 

[Rokodesh]

They need another Pike from a smaller school.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Sorry, but until we make the NCAA multiple years (or make a major bowl in multiple years) it sure as hell is.

To prove my point: BC has made ten NCAA appearances since 1992. We have made zero.

 

[Joey Bacala]

Many of these guys are going to hold out for ND. They are completely off the BB radar at this point and Brey has had so many chances to make a run at it and fallen short that he needs to go. Actually surprised he has hung in this long. He’s toast.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

BC's last NCAA bid was 2008-09, Al Skinner as HC.
2 winning seasons, both NITs, in the last 12 seasons since their last NCAA bid.

The no brainer is the other JB, no not Jimmy Buffett but John Becker. Proven winner at Vermont. Just like Pike.

That is what I was thinking, or maybe they could throw money to the Winthrop coach from Ohio, Pat Kelsey, or Richmond coach from Pennsylvania, Chris Mooney. Any of the 3 would be solid choices.

 

[bigmatt718]

BC Hoops is third fiddle behind BC Football and BC Ice Hockey. Good luck convincing a P5 assistant or BE HC to go there.

 

[AshCatchEm]

It’s still a power 5 job and a name school. More so than Rutgers was and frankly still is. They’ll get someone decent.

What are you smoking? Bc is a better job than ru? Were you in a coma for the building of our basketball facility or are you just one of those self loathing rutgers fans with his head in a hole?

 

[Night Man]

The no brainer is the other JB, no not Jimmy Buffett but John Becker. Proven winner at Vermont. Just like Pike.

I'm always leery of mid-major guys who didn't build their mid-major programs from the ground up taking rebuild jobs, but they don't seem to do worse overall than those who did a build at the mid-major level. Butch Jones, Stan Heath, Dino Babers come to mind.

 

[ancienthooper]

It’s still a power 5 job and a name school. More so than Rutgers was and frankly still is. They’ll get someone decent.

Sentences 1 and 3 are accurate. The one in the middle is laughable.

 

[TDIrish27]

Many of these guys are going to hold out for ND. They are completely off the BB radar at this point and Brey has had so many chances to make a run at it and fallen short that he needs to go. Actually surprised he has hung in this long. He’s toast.

No he isn't----he'll get another year.

We won 15 games last season-----wasn't a terrible year and he had Final 8 runs in 2015 and 2016 which have built him enough equity to get the 2022 season .

We're not a place that really cares about hoops that much and while it likely isn't as tough a job as BC it's close.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

What are you smoking? Bc is a better job than ru? Were you in a coma for the building of our basketball facility or are you just one of those self loathing rutgers fans with his head in a hole?

I’ll say it again - 10 NCAA appearances since 1991. I’ll add that they’ve been to the NIT more recently as well.

 

[RUJMM78]

James Jones feels like a good hire. They need a coach that can win with 150-300 ranked kids and has a track record for developing players ...

That level recruit won't win in the ACC or most power conferences.

 

[AshCatchEm]

I’ll say it again - 10 NCAA appearances since 1991. I’ll add that they’ve been to the NIT more recently as well.

I'll say it again. Who. Cares. If both jobs were open this offseason, the ru job garners more interest. And that's not debatable.

 

[ru66]

It’s still a power 5 job and a name school. More so than Rutgers was and frankly still is. They’ll get someone decent.

What are you smoking or are you one of those fake RU fans that dilute our fan base

 

[AshCatchEm]

What are you smoking or are you one of those fake RU fans that dilute our fan base

It's one thing to add in a dose of reality to conversation, but this isn't that. He's just flat out wrong in every way.

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

I'll say it again. Who. Cares. If both jobs were open this offseason, the ru job garners more interest. And that's not debatable.

Now you are adding another set of variables. I never said if both vacancies were open this year that RU wouldnt garner more interest. People are saying no one is interested in BC job and it’s terrible. However, if you compare BC’s current opening to ours of a few years ago, BC is more desirable flat out. And that’s not debatable.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

It’s not even close. The Northeast basketball schools in the ACC are a collective devalued stock. They are out of place afterthoughts (even traditional powers like Syracuse) in a basketball first conference controlled by Tobacco land schools.

Meanwhile the complete opposite can be argued of RU’s basketball program stock since joining the BIG. First of all, midwest BIG basketball doesn’t have nearly the same cultural appeal as the reason for picking the conference (football, yes, but even there, RU and Maryland joined a quietly grateful Penn State who no longer stands as an island. Despite what Purdue and Nebraska fans may think, the fit is there and the additions added national appeal to the conference).

Second - and far more important, is the sky rocketed relative appeal of staying home and playing regularly in front of family and friends for a big time conference. Remember - in the BE, whatever school you went to a local recruit knew they’d get to play plenty of games at the garden and come home for games against RU, Seton Hall, SJU, UConn and Nova (all drivable locations for fans). In the BIG that’s not the case. Huge factor.

 

[RUPete]

Sorry, but until we make the NCAA multiple years it sure as hell is.

That’s just your inner self-loathing RU fan talking. Right now, today RU is a better job. Ask yourself this: would Pike leave RU for BC?

 

[RUPete]

To prove my point: BC has made ten NCAA appearances since 1992. We have made zero.

Who gives a crap? Who was closer to a bid last year, this year?

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Now you are adding another set of variables. I never said if both vacancies were open this year that RU wouldnt garner more interest. People are saying no one is interested in BC job and it’s terrible. However, if you compare BC’s current opening to ours of a few years ago, BC is more desirable flat out. And that’s not debatable.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about....the BC job was open 6 years ago....who did they hire??? Jim Christian???

If everything you said was true about NCAA appearances and NIT vs RU, and BC is in the ACC, then why did BC hire Jim Christian??.....why wasn't that job more desirable 6 years ago if that's the best hire they could have made??? LMAO

Sometimes people say things trying to sound smart, with literally nothing to support their argument. He won 26 ACC games in 6 seasons....do I have to do the math for you to know that's not quite enough wins...??.....He had 94 ACC losses.....NINETY FOUR in 6 seasons.

So let me guess what list of candidates BC is going to come up with 6 years after they hired Jim Christian, but BC is a better job than RU.....?? LOL

RU as a complete dumpster fire after Eddie Jordan, Mike Rice and FHJ, still had better candidates interview once Jordan was fired than BC could even dream of interviewing or showing interest.

NIT and NCAA appearances mean absolutely nothing based on what happened in the old Big East. You have to evaluate the job on where it is today and where it sat 6 years ago in the ACC.....not what BC was in the late 90s.....

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Why would he go to weak schools like BC or Penn State.

He will get 10x better offers in the next 2 years

In an ideal world pikiell gets poached and we get beilien. At his age im assuming he and his family would enjoy our proximity to everything