Bracketologists: Rooting interest around the Big 10 and elsewhere?

KingHigh

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For those of you Bracketologists, does it matter to RU’s tourney chances/positioning which teams win or lose around the country at this point? If so, who should we be rooting for today? Ive got sportsbook money burning a hole in my pocket.
 

jordkap

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For those of you Bracketologists, does it matter to RU’s tourney chances/positioning which teams win or lose around the country at this point? If so, who should we be rooting for today? Ive got sportsbook money burning a hole in my pocket.
We are solidly in right now... with wins vs Nebraska and any one other team selection sunday is a lock. Just win and don’t worry which teams sneak by their Q3 and Q4 games
 

bac2therac

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Today we want Penn State over Nebby and Maryland/Minnesota is sort of a tossup. We beat both but I think its better if Maryland wins. Them turning into a tourney team helps our resume and we are more likely to beat Maryland a 2nd time than Minnesota on the road
 
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RUfanSinceAnderson

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Today we want Penn State over Nebby and Maryland/Minnesota is sort of a tossup. We beat both but I think its better if Maryland wins. Them turning into a tourney team helps our resume and we are more likely to beat Maryland a 2nd time than Minnesota on the road
Why root for PSU? Trying to keep this a Q2?
 

G- RUnit

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I think I want Nebraska to win. They look much better. Would like to see them get their first B1G win out of the way.
 
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bac2therac

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No..nebraska is bad. We want PSU to be as strong as possible and possibly make tourney
 

fluoxetine

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Really the algorithm for this should be:
Root for teams we play twice over teams we play once
Root for teams we play once over teams we don’t play (applies to OOC only)

I don’t think this one should matter, but it probably does:
If team are tied based on above, root for the more highly ranked team.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Really the algorithm for this should be:
Root for teams we play twice over teams we play once
Root for teams we play once over teams we don’t play (applies to OOC only)

I don’t think this one should matter, but it probably does:
If team are tied based on above, root for the more highly ranked team.
There are no advantages today, PSU-Neb(once each), Md-Minnesota(twice each), UM-Wisconsin(once each). I wouldn't mind getting Nebraska to 135 in the NET though turn them into Q2 road game somewhere. PSU doesn't affect our loss unless they fall below 75.
 
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bac2therac

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Wins for vs tourney teams is a factor

We want Penn State and Msryland in the tourney
 

PSAL_Hoops

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BAC is correct. Take a close look at how bad the resumes of the teams below us are. 9-11 are we are in.
Wins for vs tourney teams is a factor

We want Penn State and Msryland in the tourney

We didn’t beat PSU. I think we want them to lose. That game is at worst a Q2 loss and they probably stay in the top 75 anyway as long as they don’t lose out.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Really the algorithm for this should be:
Root for teams we play twice over teams we play once
Root for teams we play once over teams we don’t play (applies to OOC only)

I don’t think this one should matter, but it probably does:
If team are tied based on above, root for the more highly ranked team.

agreed. I’d add. Root for teams we have not played yet vs. teams we lost to. Therefore Michigan over Wisconsin.
 

bac2therac

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We didn’t beat PSU. I think we want them to lose. That game is at worst a Q2 loss and they probably stay in the top 75 anyway as long as they don’t lose out.

Why would you think we want a team we lost to..to lose

Nebraska is horrific no matter what
 

RU72

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Come on guys. This is all irrelevant. Rutgers is dancing. No other Big Ten team is relevant to getting in.If one unarticulated goal is to get as many Big Ten teams in as possible I see 2 issues. The more in,the greater chance that Rutgers will end up in the Gonzaga, Baylor regions which would be a round of 32 or 16 game. Next and I have thought it for weeks,it is impossible for Nebraska or Northwestern to dance,next to impossible for MSU and highly unlikely for PSU or Maryland. I saw 10 bids last year. I see 9 this year.
 

fluoxetine

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There's still a 5-10% chance we miss the tournament. Although that is influenced much more by our play than anything anyone else does. But in the borderline scenarios it could matter.
 
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RUKen

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Come on guys. This is all irrelevant. Rutgers is dancing. No other Big Ten team is relevant to getting in.If one unarticulated goal is to get as many Big Ten teams in as possible I see 2 issues. The more in,the greater chance that Rutgers will end up in the Gonzaga, Baylor regions which would be a round of 32 or 16 game. Next and I have thought it for weeks,it is impossible for Nebraska or Northwestern to dance,next to impossible for MSU and highly unlikely for PSU or Maryland. I saw 10 bids last year. I see 9 this year.
Absolutely correct. We control our own destiny. 9 in. Out is MSU, PSU, Maryland, NW and Neb. Win 2-3 more in season and 1-2 in Big tournament and hopefully a 6 seed
 
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I won't shed any tears if PSU loses today. Them losing also keeps them on the wrong side of the bubble if we do fade. There are only so many at large bids. If PSU and Maryland win enough down the stretch to get in, two others are going to be pushed out. I will take my chances with it being a Q1 loss against a non-tournament team.
 

Night Man

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I think I want Nebraska to win. They look much better. Would like to see them get their first B1G win out of the way.
I'm with you, going against the numbers here, just gut feeling. Not to say Nebraska couldn't put it together against RU as well. Just something about being a team capable of bad basketball you'd never feel too comfortable about showing up in a winless team's gym. Already saw that at PSU
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Why would you think we want a team we lost to..to lose

Nebraska is horrific no matter what

I just don’t think it matters if PSU is NET 55 or 70 but if Nebraska got to 135 it would help. Also better to have as much separation between the bottom of the standings as possible especially where we don’t own a tie breaker.
 

RUBOB72

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I believe we get in unless we lose another 5 straight. 2 wins and we are in most likely. 3 definitely. I have learned one can never
be certain with Rutgers and MBB. Those proclaiming we are a shoe in be careful. Just win the next game and all pressure is off .
 

bac2therac

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I just don’t think it matters if PSU is NET 55 or 70 but if Nebraska got to 135 it would help. Also better to have as much separation between the bottom of the standings as possible especially where we don’t own a tie breaker.


good luck for them getting to 135
 

PSAL_Hoops

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good luck for them getting to 135

I don’t know the specifics on the NET formula, but FDU moved up over 20 spots by winning at LIU. Shouldn’t winning at NET 31 translate into something similar? That would put them in the 140s tomorrow. If they keep games closer than the were in December and manage to win another game or two it seems very possible they could end in the top 135. They are considerably better with Walker than they were without him.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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Maryland remaining schedule

Home Minnesota
Home Nebraska
Home Nebraska
At Rutgers
Home Michigan State
At Northwestern
Home Penn State

I am not a bracketologist, but the reasons why people keep forecasting 10 for the B1G, would be Maryland going 5-2 or better down the stretch. I can't argue that 6-1 isn't impossible.

They're currently at 4-9 in the B1G, which may be too big of a hole but they have road wins at Illinois, at Wisconsin and at Minnesota.

Key chance is tonight for Maryland to get to 9-11 starts tonight. 9-11 probably puts them in, irregardless of the B1G tournament.
 

mikefla

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Penn ST lost yesterday... Md beat Minny
Honestly I think we can beat, Minny, Md, IU , Nebby.......but lose to Mich
the bracketologists have us at #6 playing #11 20-2 Drake....
 
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jordkap

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Penn ST lost yesterday... Md beat Minny
Honestly I think we can beat, Minny, Md, IU , Nebby.......but lose to Mich
the bracketologists have us at #6 playing #11 20-2 Drake....
Saw Drake play vs Loyola... this would be a great matchup for us. Their big man is a mediocre Seton Hall transfer and their guards are all very small
 
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G- RUnit

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Loyola would be tough though. Playing same team two days in a row is tough.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Loyola would be tough though. Playing same team two days in a row is tough.

I agree. Regardless of yesterday’s outcome, there is a difference between Loyola and Drake. Loyola is clearly the better team. Drake really doesn’t belong in the tournament but, unless they lose to someone other than Loyola, they will get there because of their gaudy record.
 
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