Interesting Pike Comments after game per Carino

[BigEastPhil]

On Jaden Jones playing games “We’ll see”

On poor body language “ Team needs to show maturity. I didn’t like that “.

On Geo injury “ Hoping it’s nothing serious”

On FT Shooting Problems “ I don’t know”.

 

[bac2therac]

like one

hate two but he is right

praying for three

do not like that answer for four

 

[biazza38]

Jones for Geo then. Geo hasn’t done anything on D so no big whoop

 

[ScarletKid2008]

I noticed and didn’t like the body language as well. Especially from Myles for nearly the whole game . Paul was the only one out there trying to pick his teammates up and jogging to spots during dead balls. Caleb seemed pretty positive considering how he can’t buy a bucket which has to be crazy fustrating.

 

[Devilsfan118]

He's probably just as frustrated as anyone here having watched that pathetic effort

 

[MCKnight]

Not sure how you can answer a question on FT shooting again and again. That was a frustration answer. Surely the players are practicing them. But the coach should offer up what he has tried, there’s different methods to use to practice free throws,

 

[IL Lusciato]

I like those comments only bc it seems like he's pissed.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

like one

hate two but he is right

praying for three

do not like that answer for four

what else is Pike supposed to say about free throws ? They practice them like crazy - he said as much before the season even began. And FTs are one of those things - only going to get marginally better with an insane amount of practice reps. They are more about confidence and rhythm.

 

[Sweet Pea's Corner]

Anything happen after the Iowa game that has this team not working together?

 

[RU MAN]

On Jaden Jones playing games “We’ll see”

On poor body language “ Team needs to show maturity. I didn’t like that “.

On Geo injury “ Hoping it’s nothing serious”

On FT Shooting Problems “ I don’t know”.

Well, Pike "better know." He and his team just **** the bed to a VERY mediocre Izzo team.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

I like those comments only bc it seems like he's pissed.

I agree with that. At least it’s not the usual.

 

[MCKnight]

One thought based on Pikes answer, Could the potential of Jones coming in and playing, and taking playing time away from others be on players minds? Speaks to possible chemistry issues. Players all want to play. They don’t want to give up their minutes to a stud freshman.

 

[RU MAN]

One thought based on Pikes answer, Could the potential of Jones coming in and playing, and taking playing time away from others be on players minds? Speaks to possible chemistry issues. Players all want to play. They don’t want to give up their minutes to a stud freshman.

That's still no excuse to **** the bed tonight.

 

[winfield102]

Strip out johnson and we r 6-10 from the foul line. Not great. Johnson going 0-7 was brutal.

 

[IL Lusciato]

Everyone should watch the actual postgame video.

Pike is NOT HAPPY. Not with himself, but not with the players either. This was a disgraceful showing. I thought he should have just benched guys early and put the kids in.

 

[brookdale-soda]

Everyone should watch the actual postgame video.

Pike is NOT HAPPY. Not with himself, but not with the players either. This was a disgraceful showing. I thought he should have just benched guys early and put the kids in.

Agree. The guys in the final minute wanted to be there. I wouldve liked to see them come in in the 1st half

 

[BigEastPhil]

Also Pike said no update yet on Cliff as he still hasn’t practiced.

 

[Westcoast]

I noticed and didn’t like the body language as well. Especially from Myles for nearly the whole game . Paul was the only one out there trying to pick his teammates up and jogging to spots during dead balls. Caleb seemed pretty positive considering how he can’t buy a bucket which has to be crazy fustrating.

Am I the only one who noticed Caleb couldn't buy a bucket down the stretch last year either? Seriously, he disappeared completely from the offense in the last weeks of the season.

 

[RUby RED]

Am I the only one who noticed Caleb couldn't buy a bucket down the stretch last year either? Seriously, he disappeared completely from the offense in the last weeks of the season.

I’m a big Caleb fan and understand that offensive numbers don’t tell the whole story, but they certainly haven’t been pretty in a while. His last 11 games for us he’s averaging 3 pts on 25% shooting, to go along with more TOs than assists. Also hasn’t hit a 3 in his last 16 attempts.

Really hoping he can get going and get back to the form he was in last year when Geo was out

 

[rufeelinit]

He brought up FT's a couple of times in his comments as a way to stop the bleeding but then when asked about it directly says he does not know and reverts to his standard retort which is that they are good shooter who knock them down regularly in practice. He is a smart guy and I am sure knows the importance of making FT's in close games. Can't he for once just say it is a problem and we need to find different types of drills to do in practice to make it more game like. He doesn't have to come out an criticize Myles although someone ought to ask him if he is reluctant to feature Myles post game more because of his FT deficiencies. He is right that it did not cost him the game tonight but it certainly was a factor in the Iowa loss.

 

[jersey07080]

Basketball coaches on here, outside of analyzing form and repetition how else do you teach foul shooting? Do we need a sports psychologist?

 

[JonathanAlan]

Strip out johnson and we r 6-10 from the foul line. Not great. Johnson going 0-7 was brutal.

Last night he looked to be pushing his shot unlike earlier earlier games when his form was better and there was some arc and touch to his foul shot.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Basketball coaches on here, outside of analyzing form and repetition how else do you teach foul shooting? Do we need a sports psychologist?

make em strip.. oh wait. never mind.

 

[LETSGORU91]

One thought based on Pikes answer, Could the potential of Jones coming in and playing, and taking playing time away from others be on players minds? Speaks to possible chemistry issues. Players all want to play. They don’t want to give up their minutes to a stud freshman.

If they played bad at the thought of someone coming into the program and taking minutes, wait till Jones arrives and actually does. These guys need to realize that success will bring in better players and increase the level of competition for time on the floor. This will elevate the level of the team as long as egos don't get in the way.

 

[Kbee3]

Last night he looked to be pushing his shot unlike earlier earlier games when his form was better and there was some arc and touch to his foul shot.

Anyone here seen Wilt Chamberlain or Shaquille O' Neal at the free throw line ?

 

[MCKnight]

Different free throw drills include placing someone on the line, if they miss the team runs, puts pressure on player to focus and make. Drill used to be called Love Thy neighbor. Also, have read about Bobby Knight in middle of drills or practicing offensive sets, just randomly calling a player to the line to make Five in a row. Again, emphasizing focus and pressure to make the shot or the team runs suicides.

 

[mildone_rivals]

A coach's comments after a loss like that, where the team was clearly not at it's best, are unlikely to be representative of how the coach really feels. And that's a good thing.

Fans want the coach to say what they want to hear. But publicly criticizing your players in the media, even "constructively", is something to be reserved for the rarest and most desperate of times. I'm not sure it's ever a good idea at the college level where we're still talking about relatively young people. Do it once and it's a wake-up call. Do it more than that and just beats down players.

In private, I have no doubt that Pike will both beat up on himself mercilessly, and on the team constructively where appropriate.

IMO, Pike's failure was twofold: first to forecast and then prepare for and beat the style of defense MSU used, which emphasized their height advantage to take away outside shots, forcing us to try to beat them with an inside game. And second, not recognizing and adapting to that defense in-game. We just never solved it, despite his trying several different things.

We were taken entirely out of our game and were unable to adapt. Great job by MSU's coach to identify and prepare to exploit our weaknesses. Poor job by us to know it was coming or figure out how to beat it.

We better figure it out fast because, having seen it, other teams are sure to try to emulate the same style of D. They're going to force us to win using layups and inside play (which we've been pretty bad at this season when defended hard).

Our players consistently failed to make the correctly timed and angled cuts to support a guard driving the lane with the ball. We had players driving the lane, but then they got stuck having to take weak shot attempts or layups with nowhere else to go with the ball.

And we need to work on pick and roll execution. We had tons of opportunities to execute a simple pick and roll and as far as I can recall, we didn't do it once the whole game. Our picks were weak, our players were extremely slow to roll, and the few times the roll was there quickly, our guards never seemed to get the picker the ball. Mystifying to me why.

The good news is that this can all be fixed. It's kind of basketball 101. But I guess we haven't been practicing that specific stuff much because for whatever reason, the players didn't execute it. Instead, we made the game about what the player with the ball did. Which is what they tried to force us to do. But when the D defends up high like they did, scoring (and winning) becomes all about what the players off the ball do.

 

[Shelby65]

mildone...agree with a lot of that, but not about the pick and roll....if the screener/roll player has bad hands and can't catch the passes and/or is too far from the basket to do anything except pass it away it's a waste of time at best, or a turnover. our opponents don't need to pay attention to the screener as an offensive option.

 

[rudad02]

Strip out johnson and we r 6-10 from the foul line. Not great. Johnson going 0-7 was brutal.

ONCE AGAIN--need to go to underhanded shot.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

On Jaden Jones playing games “We’ll see” DOLLARS-TO-DONUTS HE PLAYS

On poor body language “ Team needs to show maturity. I didn’t like that “. DISGRACEFUL. LOOKED LIKE THE LAST 7-MINUTES OF THE OSU GAME FOR 40 (OTHER THAN JY)

On Geo injury “ Hoping it’s nothing serious” OF COURSE

On FT Shooting Problems “ I don’t know”. UHM, YOU NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT, COACH!

 

[mildone_rivals]

mildone...agree with a lot of that, but not about the pick and roll....if the screener/roll player has bad hands and can't catch the passes and/or is too far from the basket to do anything except pass it away it's a waste of time at best, or a turnover. our opponents don't need to pay attention to the screener as an offensive option.

A good guard can thread a needle to bounce pass to the rolling player. Doesn't have to be a lob pass over the top. Our guards, more often than not, didn't even attempt to create mismatches on the picks, dribbling back across the pick which negates their impact. Pike, in a desperation move towards the end of the game, tried to pick both sides. That was a total failure for us, producing maybe one basket despite trying numerous times.

Even if a rolling player is far away, he has broken through the high D and forced the D to adjust, which is how you open up players on the weak side, either in the lane or at the 3 point line. The key is to force defenders to make a choice to either defend the rolling player or stay home and give the rolling player a good look at the basket. So it's never a waste of time as long as the other 3 players know how to read the cues and move appropriately.

One way or another, we need to find a way to pick and roll successfully. And we need our weak-side players to setup their defender and make better timed backdoor cuts. We've been pretty weak at both things all season long. MSU's coach saw it and exploited it.

If we don't figure out how to do those things, every team we play is going to try to take away our outside shots the same way. And they'll succeed, to varying degrees, unless we have a height advantage and can just shoot over the high defending (which we've done in earlier games).

 

[keywestRU]

It was a loooong time ago, but my HS coach always insisted that you take your position on the line, shoot your foul shot. And if there’s a second shot dont move your feet at all. If you missed the first, it will be easier to make an adjustment; if you made it it will be easier to duplicate the stroke. The fashion today is to step off, turn around, slap hands with teammates and what all. As I said, it was a looong time ago — I shot mine my under handed (before Rick Barry).

 

[bethlehemfan]

It was a loooong time ago, but my HS coach always insisted that you take your position on the line, shoot your foul shot. And if there’s a second shot dont move your feet at all. If you missed the first, it will be easier to make an adjustment; if you made it it will be easier to duplicate the stroke. The fashion today is to step off, turn around, slap hands with teammates and what all. As I said, it was a looong time ago — I shot mine my under handed (before Rick Barry).

Was your coach named Naismith?

 

[Plum Street]

make em strip.. oh wait. never mind.

Ha ! Great post

 

[RU MAN]

Different free throw drills include placing someone on the line, if they miss the team runs, puts pressure on player to focus and make. Drill used to be called Love Thy neighbor. Also, have read about Bobby Knight in middle of drills or practicing offensive sets, just randomly calling a player to the line to make Five in a row. Again, emphasizing focus and pressure to make the shot or the team runs suicides.

This is the way I was taught. If someone missed we all ran. Also, I like the randomness idea of calling a player to the line to make five in a row, keeping the pressure on them by having the other players taunt him like a game atmosphere. If he misses he runs.

 

[rudad02]

Was your coach named Naismith?

There you go. Didn't you find that the rim was kinder to you. It is a softer shot.

 

[koleszar]

On Jaden Jones playing games “We’ll see”

On poor body language “ Team needs to show maturity. I didn’t like that “.

On Geo injury “ Hoping it’s nothing serious”

On FT Shooting Problems “ I don’t know”.

On #4 no shame on consulting for outside help. Sports phycologists can have tremendous effect when you hit a mental block. Or in Myles case someone to go over mechanics. It's clear something needs to change and the staff is out of answers. Time to go outside the box, something which coaches aren't really comfortable with but can have amazing results.

 

[RU#1fan]

I like those comments only bc it seems like he's pissed.

ummmmm. He should be .

 

[Shelby65]

Mildone...maybe I was too diplomatic in my response for you to understand. Who’s the 5 who is our primary screener? He’s the reason it doesn’t work. Hardly needs to be defended more than 5 feet from the hoop.

 

[RUBOB72]

Cliff not having practiced yet lends to the possibility he may be out for much longer. Miniscus or MCL tear.? Did not appear that severe at the time and one thing Pike will not do is rush him back in. As for Jones playing? Does a bear shat in the woods? Bet on him by week 2 February. If Jones can give us 5-7 minutes of play on the court who cares. Just an awful performance last night.