Brad Underwood on refs

Shell21

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as a high school coach, if you think the block charge call in college is bad, you should see it in high school. Every time a defender falls down, they basically call it a charge. College refs are a little better, but not much. In my opinion, they should change the rule to a charge is just a team foul and not a personal foul since the refs probably get it wrong 75 percent of the time at least.
 
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ClassOf02v.2

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This is the first time since we joined the B1G that we have not had to complain about calls - no way do I feel sorry for either of these whining coaches. Screw them. On another note we are pretty good at drawing the charge - keep that rule the way it is!
I don’t have an issue complaining about the way the college game is called....it’s very often REALLY bad officiating. But yeah — if this is a reaction to the one single time in the history of the world the whistle favored RU, they can go pound salt.
 

Scarlet Blind_rivals

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Another problem, moreso than the refs, is some players are good at overselling incidental contact or non-fouls to make it look worse than it really is to get a foul called, whether it is a coaching strategy or a player taking it upon himself.
 

Scangg

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I don’t like either coach but I agree 100% with them they just call charging way to much all of these calls should be no calls or a couple defensive blocking
If the offensive player doesn't barrel directly into your chest from a dead straight angle they call a block. What I see that I dont like is a defensive player could be standing completely still in clear position with arms either straight up or protecting their nuts and the offensive player moves and angles at the last second and hits the defensive player but it isn't 100% dead on. Its essentially always a block but the defender is CLEARLY standing there motionless with position. The refs are saying either its direct hit to the sternum or just get out of the way completely even if you are there well ahead of time in position, straight up, and motionless.

It actually works in our favor with Young
 

ScarletDave

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Rutgers for the history of the world has had refs call the game in the other way, call the same fouls on us that other teams get away with on the next possession, go down 7-0 in fouls, etc etc and you never hear a word from our coaches in any sport. 1 single time RU gets the whistle, and it’s a national story line. Gimme a break whiney Brad
 
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Awo on several drives used right arm to fend off. Maybe he should have had a few more fouls on him.
 

Big boy stan

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Rutgers for the history of the world has had refs call the game in the other way, call the same fouls on us that other teams get away with on the next possession

I think perception of good or bad reffing goes along with winning and losing. In the Illinois game, PM gets called for two travels that are not travels In MD, Cliff gets called for basket interference that is not anything but a basket. We win both games so we say "oh well, refs cant be perfect". Ill has a flagrant called and lose the game so they say the refs are garbage this year.

In the history of RU basketball we have been on the losing side of many games so we judged the refs as crap. Refs are never that bad when you are 6 and 0
 

MadRU

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Coach your kids not to elbow opposing players in the jaw.

Georgi was a #%^* aggressively boxing out Paul on the first shot of a two shot foul.

We had Oskar called for a flagrant foul against Syracuse which was a ridiculous call, but it’s the rule so has to be called.
 

Joey Bags

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That was some veteran s*** by Mulcahy. Getting into the opposing team's head while working the refs and drawing the flagrant. Maybe Underwood should focus on teaching more mental toughness for his squad rather than whining.
 

RUsojo

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It’s the way basketball has been trending there are more flops in basketball than in soccer just is what it is now.
 

Colbert17!

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as a high school coach, if you think the block charge call in college is bad, you should see it in high school. Every time a defender falls down, they basically call it a charge. College refs are a little better, but not much. In my opinion, they should change the rule to a charge is just a team foul and not a personal foul since the refs probably get it wrong 75 percent of the time at least.

Coached/officiated HS basketball for nearly 30 years (retired). Block/charge is one of the toughest calls to make and it is a guessing game with each official.

When coaching many years ago I got a T for telling an official (on the road) that he wouldn't know the difference between a block and a charge if it bit him in the a**.
 
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I'd love to see the refs basically say "play on". Often, it's neither a charge nor blocking.
What happened to the flop rule? Haven't seen it called yet.
 

dconifer0

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This is the first time since we joined the B1G that we have not had to complain about calls - no way do I feel sorry for either of these whining coaches. Screw them. On another note we are pretty good at drawing the charge - keep that rule the way it is!

The only real difference is that your team is winning now. The officiating hasn't changed...
 

cm_13

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If the offensive player doesn't barrel directly into your chest from a dead straight angle they call a block. What I see that I dont like is a defensive player could be standing completely still in clear position with arms either straight up or protecting their nuts and the offensive player moves and angles at the last second and hits the defensive player but it isn't 100% dead on. Its essentially always a block but the defender is CLEARLY standing there motionless with position. The refs are saying either its direct hit to the sternum or just get out of the way completely even if you are there well ahead of time in position, straight up, and motionless.

It actually works in our favor with Young
Perfect example of this exact play in the Illinois game. About a minute left in the first, JY had the ball on the break. I think it was Frazier who was set right in front of him, JY side stepped a bit to avoid the charge but still made contact, foul was somehow called on Frazier. Will definitely take the two free throws, but that 100% should have been a no call.
 
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