I think @Plum Street is annoyed (as am I) by some posters overplaying Pernetti’s role in the Big Ten. He had virtually nothing to do with it. I get that a few of the well-known posters are friends with him but facts are facts.
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These people are blinded by their friendships or just idiots. One of the oddest takes in this thread was someone saying flood failed because pernetti wasn’t there to mentor him !! Wtf!
Couple of things- first you are both wrong in thinking Tim had very little but to sit there and look pretty holding the pen. It took 3 equal parts to make the B1G happen and it doesn’t happen if any of the 3 didn’t do their part.
As for the Flood comment. What was said is that Flood proved not to be a good HC but if he had Tim providing support and some sort of mentoring vs the JH mess, he may have at least held the fort without scandals until we could find a real HC...
Yes and the heavy lifting was done by muclhahy and schiano . Like I said , pernetti was a baseball closer coming into the game in the 9th with a 3 run lead . Sure , he had do his part there to win the game . But it sure wasn’t a high pressure save situation.
Still trying to figure out what Pernetti did to earn your eternal enmity:
Seriously, that deal doesn't happen without the actions of Schiano, Mulcahy and Pernetti. Trying to minimize the contributions of any of those three is plain stupid.
Nothing . Just not a good AD and perplexed why people here think he was. Hell, grunniger got us into the best basketball conference in history and he was an awful AD!
Let’s be honest...it was a less than a 1ft putt on the boardwalk in Point Pleasant.
After the booming tee shot by Bob and the awesome approach by Greg even Fred or even Julie sinks it.
No, the baseball reference with pernettti as the reliever to save a game well in hand is better .
Pernetti had zero to do with it. I don't think anyone can doubt the information I provide prior to Nebraska, after, when all the dopes thought it would be ACC, letting out MD, and then Big (including some very unwarranted attacks that a few have yet to apologize for even thought sigh, I was right AGAIN). Tim had zero to do with it, he was just sitting in the chair. You can thank PSU more than you thank Tim
yes, those of us with half a brain can see your intimation. lol
I let out a few things on them (Alvarez -I had let it out here that he had a meeting on Nebraska and was pushing for them which came out way later in an article) and Texas but that was nothing, when I told a few in private that MD dialed in with interest and possible block move, that made it to the board, I was literally told I was making stuff up, among other things. The best was the entire board and morons mods that use to run this board stated that I was a cancer for saying the ACC thing was all bogus etc etc. Then they started using things I said to validate the change of pace. Those were some fun times. Lots went down on here
Tim didn't do anything but bugger the ACC with them responding with polite, 'lol'. Tim, to his credit, did try to make sure we were not left out but the Big was smart to keep things close to the chest. Delaney worked the network first then made his move.
My source on all of this was impeccible and right in the room with the Big guys...lol pun intented
all good but this love affair with Tim is borderline moronic. He was a lousy AD, in a multitude of ways. I think people like thim because he was a former player, good guy, great at interacting with fans and loves Rutgers but that doesn't mean he was competent in his job as AD.
The biggest travesty is Rutgers had no plan B if Greg left despite the rumors, entertaining calls, etc etc.. that was simply unforgivable and left us with no options. Greg too was a douche for doing it in the manner he did, he's not clean either
In keeping with the golf analogy...Joe Paterno was the member of member/guest.
Or at the very least the starter.
IIRC, a major reason Mario would not come here was his wife did not want to come to New Jersey. She had an aversion to pork roll.
Think it was more than a woman. And not what the Bee Gees sang about in Saturday Night Fever.
You often pull rabbits out of hats. Nice article. So it seems Saban is the Emperor without clothes and the true genius behind this season is none other than Kyle Flood. I always knew he was elite. [roll]Imagine if the guy was paid even half of what Greg was paid and he had a budget to hire and OC like Friedgen and a solid DC instead of the revolving cast of characters. Well, Rossi has held his DC job at Minnesota for a couple of years (I think). While cheating should never be condoned or excused, the guy was painted into a corner and started cutting corners, losing drug tests, etc. I would never cheat or cut corners like that, but I would leave early for a Counting Crows concerts (well not THEM, but Slayer or Metallica).
"Regardless of what Cristobal and Stoutland did, Flood has surpassed both."
"This bunch under Flood has given the Tide a 3,000-yard passer (Mac Jones), a 1,000-yard rusher (Najee Harris) and a 1,000-yard receiver (DeVonta Smith) for the first time since Cristobal’s guys in 2015.
Alabama leads the nation for scoring offense (49.5 ppg) and is third for total offense (537.6 ypg). Its output for scoring offense is the most in the Saban era, and it has scored at least 40 points in nine straight games. Behind the offensive line, the Tide has had its best efficiency rating on third down (59.1 percent) and its highest efficiency rating in the red zone (90.7%) of the Saban era.
Flood’s unit has Jones, Harris and Smith all candidates for the Heisman Trophy."
Are they facts just because you said so? Where are these facts?
I seem to remember Perneti
being very involved and honestly Greggie had nothing to do with it. Oh we have to get Rutgers The coach almost beat New Hampshire. The Big wanted RU for the school we were and where we are
located. Same as Maryland,
great academics, research and much more.
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Bob and Greg helped sell the idea of Rutgers looking like a B1G school more than just what it said in the US News and World Report rankings...that it could happen here.
Weren’t you the guy saying pernetti hired schiano ?
Yes, I was having a senior moment, sorry wait 20 0r thirty
years, it's not fun.
When Greg left suddenly (I didn't blame him, a huge raise and NFL came knocking, who turns that down especially when we had a contingent of fans complaining about his $2 million RU salary for being what they called an "average" coach, Derleider still doesn't understand and I remember you being in that group), and then Mario wouldn't leave a much weaker school to come, we were in trouble. Pernetti was a football guy. That's what he understood about being an AD. In many ways, GS was his boss. But he jumped in and was a huge help in salvaging our highly rated class. At the time, I was very happy with his efforts. But, in retrospect, promoting Flood was a very short term move. GS left us with a stocked roster. He had established us as a regular bowl participant. There had to be plenty of coaches looking to jump in, maybe not the sexy names, but strong coaches. It would just need to take some time. Maybe we lose some of our recruits, but, again, that is short term. A more experienced/qualified AD would have looked longer term. Monday morning QB'ing, I know, but Flood was a huge risk.
It is clear that we were not getting invited to the B1G with a non-competitive football team, a smallish stadium, and dreadful hoops. GS made us competitive, he pushed for the stadium expansion (again, a contingent of fans were against even spending to do that), 2006 proved how RU can capture the NY market, and made us much more attractive to the B1G. The biggest risk the B1G faced was adding a terrible RU, perennial last place finishes, who takes the B1G checks and doesn't invest in athletics. 2006 went a long way to showing our commitment and potential. Easy to say that RU was getting in no matter what now that we are, in fact, in.
I have no idea what you're talking about. But, hey, I'm only 29. Again. And we've got snow in our backyard. What were we talking about?Senior moments
Interesting that none of the “Rutgers” astronauts were NJ natives.
I don't understand how semi intelligent people can't figure this out. And it has nothing to do with anyone being friends with Tim or not.
Curious as to what type of plan B he was supposed to have? Was he supposed to have a HC ready to sign on the dotted line if and when Greg decided to leave? Was he supposed to even have a hot list of coaches to reach out to if it did happen(oh wait, he did...and they turned down his somewhere near $1mil offer. Flood was something like option 3 or 4.I let out a few things on them (Alvarez -I had let it out here that he had a meeting on Nebraska and was pushing for them which came out way later in an article) and Texas but that was nothing, when I told a few in private that MD dialed in with interest and possible block move, that made it to the board, I was literally told I was making stuff up, among other things. The best was the entire board and morons mods that use to run this board stated that I was a cancer for saying the ACC thing was all bogus etc etc. Then they started using things I said to validate the change of pace. Those were some fun times. Lots went down on here
Tim didn't do anything but bugger the ACC with them responding with polite, 'lol'. Tim, to his credit, did try to make sure we were not left out but the Big was smart to keep things close to the chest. Delaney worked the network first then made his move.
My source on all of this was impeccible and right in the room with the Big guys...lol pun intented
all good but this love affair with Tim is borderline moronic. He was a lousy AD, in a multitude of ways. I think people like thim because he was a former player, good guy, great at interacting with fans and loves Rutgers but that doesn't mean he was competent in his job as AD.
The biggest travesty is Rutgers had no plan B if Greg left despite the rumors, entertaining calls, etc etc.. that was simply unforgivable and left us with no options. Greg too was a douche for doing it in the manner he did, he's not clean either
I am going back to the fact that Greg, Bob and Tim were all need to make this happen.
Greg built the product and Brand. Without it- B1G, ACC etc doesn't even give us a 2nd thought.
Bob - Supported the program and put us in position to succeed and to have enough infrastructure in place to also have us be viable as an option to the major conferences.
Both of them built deep connections within these conferences and were trying to position Rutgers for an opportunity like this for years.
B1G DOES NOT happen without the 2 of them and the amazing job they both did in this pursuit.
But...B1G still didn't really care about Rutgers the football team or athletic dept. They care about $$$- and even then, we were always the follow on addition. It came down to cable TV and the market. That my friends is Tim's strength and background. He still would have never closed this deal without the product and brand that Greg/Bob created. But the B1G was not going to take Rutgers without Tim's involvement and selling what the B1G really listened to.
Without ALL 3 of them- none of this would be here. Plum, for some reason just has a hard on for Tim. (yes, his closer role does fit Tim's role but it wasn't a 3 run lead going into the 9th- it was game 7, 2 men on, no outs in the 9th with a 1 run lead) R95 seems to have a need to prove his worthiness. Kind of creepy
Product/Brand/Cable Sold Rutgers - you don't even have to know any of the 3 men personally to understand who played what part.
NJ’s Jihaad Campbell to IMG Academy. Do big time donors at Big Boy programs pay the bills?
Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back. Schiano left to take one of the 30+ jobs at the highest level of his profession. We’re you expecting him to slow play Tampa?I let out a few things on them (Alvarez -I had let it out here that he had a meeting on Nebraska and was pushing for them which came out way later in an article) and Texas but that was nothing, when I told a few in private that MD dialed in with interest and possible block move, that made it to the board, I was literally told I was making stuff up, among other things. The best was the entire board and morons mods that use to run this board stated that I was a cancer for saying the ACC thing was all bogus etc etc. Then they started using things I said to validate the change of pace. Those were some fun times. Lots went down on here
Tim didn't do anything but bugger the ACC with them responding with polite, 'lol'. Tim, to his credit, did try to make sure we were not left out but the Big was smart to keep things close to the chest. Delaney worked the network first then made his move.
My source on all of this was impeccible and right in the room with the Big guys...lol pun intented
all good but this love affair with Tim is borderline moronic. He was a lousy AD, in a multitude of ways. I think people like thim because he was a former player, good guy, great at interacting with fans and loves Rutgers but that doesn't mean he was competent in his job as AD.
The biggest travesty is Rutgers had no plan B if Greg left despite the rumors, entertaining calls, etc etc.. that was simply unforgivable and left us with no options. Greg too was a douche for doing it in the manner he did, he's not clean either
Wasn't Pernetti's Plan B the current coach of Oregon? Wasn't the story that Barchi and the administration wouldn't commit to what was needed to make that happen? Wasn't the problem always money and administration support? Mulcahy never should have been chased out and that, too, went to a weak President. And even Mulcahy had his problems.. being a Nova grad.. he couldn't get the deal done for Jay Wright... after having the deal done.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!
Barchi wasn't president yet when GS left: McCormick was the lame duck at that point and, as always, was weak willed and did nothing. Just like when he didn't defend Mulcahy.
Ever hear of Art Briles or Hugh Freeze or the other 100 people in Sports who get second chances
Yeah but those guys actually were good and had success. Pernetti hired flood and Rice. Usually they want you to be good at something to give you a second chance lol
folks forget this prior to him leaving...
Rutgers paid $7 million to end marketing deal with Nelligan Sports
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2013/04/rutgers_to_pay_7_million_to_ex.html
Rutgers paid $7 million to end marketing deal with Nelligan Sports
https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/2013/04/rutgers_to_pay_7_million_to_ex.html