OT: NJ schools can start the year virtually

[tom1944]

I have two family members who are teachers..both cannot wait to go back and are very sad over this development

If their school wants to open they can open.

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

A lot of teachers are nothing but a bunch of cry babies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

So true. Compare to doctors, nurses, LE officers, emt volunteers, and even grocery store workers who go to work, do their job and rarely complain. A bunch of p-words these blue state teachers.

 

[e5fdny]

This is me, as well. Online instruction is for the birds, and NOT why I became a teacher. I would rather be a custodian than do a few more months of remote learning. Maybe it's just because I've been wearing a mask while handing out 5000 meals to our students' families twice each week since June without getting sick, but I'm pretty sure I can mask up with an N95 and face shield and stay safe until a vaccine is available. If ONE nurse was able to get through the surge in April without catching it, why couldn't I?

She is really good at both.

It was something to watch as she put on four “shows” a day. Like Vegas. LOL. From AP, honors and two different CP level classes. Different type of kid and learners in each one. Btw, couple of her kids got 5s on their AP exams.

My younger son goes to the same school and was in one of her classes last year (honors). It was interesting to see how some of his other teachers did not do so well with the switch to total online. As a parent I was not happy.

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Out here in Tennessee the schools are opening. I hear very little complaints. The blue states are whiny and soft. Glad I’m out of that dump. TN is like NJ was in the 70s and 80s. I was proud to be from NJ back then

 

[tico brown]

Out here in Tennessee the schools are opening. I hear very little complaints. The blue states are whiny and soft. Glad I’m out of that dump. TN is like NJ was in the 70s and 80s. I was proud to be from NJ back then

:Celebrate: :Woot:

 

[fsg2_rivals]

Out here in Tennessee the schools are opening. I hear very little complaints. The blue states are whiny and soft. Glad I’m out of that dump. TN is like NJ was in the 70s and 80s. I was proud to be from NJ back then

Yeah because NJ should definitely be following Tennessee's lead when it comes to education.:Laughing

 

[[email protected]]

Not a teacher but a parent who along with his wife has decided his child will be attending school in person if it is open. A lot of teachers are crybabies ! And if I DON'T STFU ?

Dr. Sanjay Gupta said today that he is not sending his 3 daughters back to school. He is a neurosurgeon (top of the food chain).

You/ your wife can do whatever you like with your chlld ... but you might want to consider what experts in field are doing.
Remember: hang out with the smart kids - not the idiots!

MO

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Yeah because NJ should definitely be following Tennessee's lead when it comes to education.:Laughing

Yeah I know what you mean, man. Those kids in Paterson, Newark, Camden, Plainfield, JC, etc, etc are getting a great education! LOL

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Dr. Sanjay Gupta said today that he is not sending his 3 daughters back to school. He is a neurosurgeon (top of the food chain).

You/ your wife can do whatever you like with your chlld ... but you might want to consider what experts in field are doing.
Remember: hang out with the smart kids - not the idiots!

MO

Which means we'll all ignore this post for obvious reasons.

 

[Mikemarc]

If their school wants to open they can open.

True. But now if their schools don’t, they don’t have to. That’s what makes them sad

 

[Mikemarc]

Dr. Sanjay Gupta said today that he is not sending his 3 daughters back to school. He is a neurosurgeon (top of the food chain).

You/ your wife can do whatever you like with your chlld ... but you might want to consider what experts in field are doing.
Remember: hang out with the smart kids - not the idiots!

MO

plenty of experts are also sending their kids to school.

 

[[email protected]]

Which means we'll all ignore this post for obvious reasons.

You're not as bright as you think.

MO

 

[goru1869]

Dr. Sanjay Gupta said today that he is not sending his 3 daughters back to school. He is a neurosurgeon (top of the food chain).

You/ your wife can do whatever you like with your chlld ... but you might want to consider what experts in field are doing.
Remember: hang out with the smart kids - not the idiots!

MO

As he can do what he wants. I don't believe a lot of these numbers. A lot of doctors are being silenced when they speak out against certain people. A lot of questions on both sides. My son has no problem going back and we can always keep him home if things get bad. AND I know how to think for myself. Some doctor on cnn will not make my decision for me ! And I don't hang out with idiots !

 

[fsg2_rivals]

Yeah I know what you mean, man. Those kids in Paterson, Newark, Camden, Plainfield, JC, etc, etc are getting a great education! LOL

I'm sure inner city Tenn schools are world leaders, but you were talking states. Keep up.

Only thing Tenn schools can teach NJ is how to prepare caf meals for the toothless.

 

[[email protected]]

plenty of experts are also sending their kids to school.

What we have here is a failure to communicate : see Cool Hand Luke!

My fiancée was on the phone with her daughter who is helping to coordinate some of the epidemiological efforts in the NW (especially vaccines / interventional therapies).

She said that a lot of our voices are reminiscent of 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic. Washing your hands, masks and plasma were available and used then...and there were plenty who opposed it, didn't understand it, don't like being told what to do...and plenty who died!

We've got better technology, more therapies, more under control...and yet if 33% of the population wouldn't get a vaccine because they're anti vaxer's and the vaccine is approximately 70% efficacious (if and when we get one...this would be a relatively good number)...we wouldn't reach herd immunity since our best outcome would still produce <50% results!

MO

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

I'm sure inner city Tenn schools are world leaders, but you were talking states. Keep up.

Only thing Tenn schools can teach NJ is how to prepare caf meals for the toothless.

That’s all you got, the old toothless stereotype? Let me tell ya, McGavock HS, just to name one would blow away any HS in the cities I mentioned above. Oh and no income tax, tolls, or countless “fees” that are imposed on NJ residents

 

[tom1944]

True. But now if their schools don’t, they don’t have to. That’s what makes them sad

Well apparently the districts that will open will need teachers so they should apply there

 

[Mikemarc]

What we have here is a failure to communicate : see Cool Hand Luke!

My fiancée was on the phone with her daughter who is helping to coordinate some of the epidemiological efforts in the NW (especially vaccines / interventional therapies).

She said that a lot of our voices are reminiscent of 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic. Washing your hands, masks and plasma were available and used then...and there were plenty who opposed it, didn't understand it, don't like being told what to do...and plenty who died!

We've got better technology, more therapies, more under control...and yet if 33% of the population wouldn't get a vaccine because they're anti vaxer's and the vaccine is approximately 70% officious (if and when we get one...this would be a relatively good number)...we wouldn't reach herd immunity since our best outcome would still produce <50% results!

MO

You said you “might wanna consider what others in the field are doing”.

plenty of people in the field are sending their kids to school. All I’m saying.

not sure what this post is getting at.

 

[fsg2_rivals]

That’s all you got, the old toothless stereotype? Let me tell ya, McGavock HS, just to name one would blow away any HS in the cities I mentioned above. Oh and no income tax, tolls, or countless “fees” that are imposed on NJ residents

No I have state by state ratings and the history of the country.

The toothless thing was just for fun.

 

[Mikemarc]

Well apparently the districts that will open will need teachers so they should apply there

Well apparently the districts that will open will need teachers so they should apply there

Ones been applying to multiple districts. The others extremely happy with where she’s at.

But thanks for the reccomendation

 

[tom1944]

Ones been applying to multiple districts. The others extremely happy with where she’s at.

But thanks for the reccomendation

Always willing to solve problems

 

[Mikemarc]

Always willing to solve problems

Thanks. But they’re both extremely experienced teachers and don’t need anonymous sports message board posters to help solve their problems.

And they wouldn’t even call this “a problem”..just sadness they may not see their kids again.

 

[RuBird]

Not a teacher but a parent who along with his wife has decided his child will be attending school in person if it is open. A lot of teachers are crybabies ! And if I DON'T STFU ?

Whole lot more teachers are working their a**es off. Funny was not long go parents were going out of their way praising teachers and the job they do for their kids. Few months later parents seem fine putting those same teachers at risk. Mocking teachers for having safety concerns. Asking them to take pay cuts etc etc..... hmmmmmmmmm.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Thanks. But they’re both extremely experienced teachers and don’t need anonymous sports message board posters to help solve their problems.

And they wouldn’t even call this “a problem”..just sadness they may not see their kids again.

Many teachers want to go back but their voices are being drowned out by the union narrative.

Only teacher I know that has issues is due to their school not willing to provide PPE for the staff or anything in front of their desks to protect them. They are considering purchasing something themselves which is ridiculous.

 

[Mikemarc]

Many teachers want to go back but their voices are being drowned out by the union narrative.

Only teacher I know that has issues is due to their school not willing to provide PPE for the staff or anything in front of their desks to protect them. They are considering purchasing something themselves which is ridiculous.

100% union decision.

 

[-RUFAN4LIFE-]

Whole lot more teachers are working their a**es off. Funny was not long go parents were going out of their way praising teachers and the job they do for their kids. Few months later parents seem fine putting those same teachers at risk. Mocking teachers for having safety concerns. Asking them to take pay cuts etc etc..... hmmmmmmmmm.

It's probably because the effort was far less during the pandemic.

We are normally happy with our district and the teaching staff. However, as the pandemic went on they never adjusted from the original model and it didn't sit will with many in our town.

 

[Caliknight]

Did the teachers union in NJ have on their list of demands that to go back to work they need to defund the police like LA teachers union does?

 

[TdogRU]

My kids have been in daycare in NJ for nearly 2 months. Some daycares have been open the entire time. Its quite obvious that young children are less contagious.

I’ve been going to work as an essential employee at a manufacturing company masked up and interacting with other adult employees (who transmit the virus much easier) during the height of the local pandemic. There were cases at my job and everyone kept working. Teachers that teach young kids should go to work. Wear PPE keep your distance follow precautions. Ask daycares how they’ve been doing it.

High school could be remote as older children are more contagious and can more easily do online learning. Virtual kindergarten/1st/2nd grade is a joke. The only reason they would even do it is busy work for the teachers. It’s useless. My kindergartener would’ve been in school this year but now has to attend daycare/pre-K again. How is that any safer than kindergarten?

 

[RuBird]

It's probably because the effort was far less during the pandemic.

We are normally happy with our district and the teaching staff. However, as the pandemic went on they never adjusted from the original model and it didn't sit will with many in our town.

Whose effort? Again so many more teachers worked their butts off virtual learning . We must keep in mind most teachers left school on a Friday and told you will teach virtually Monday. Now that they have experience with it should go smoother. Also falls on administration. They were also figuring it out. Should see more principals, heads of special ed. etc etc joining more of the Virtual classrooms, making sure teachers are doing all they can.

 

[Caliknight]

My kids have been in daycare in NJ for nearly 2 months. Some daycares have been open the entire time. Its quite obvious that young children are less contagious.

I’ve been going to work as an essential employee at a manufacturing company masked up and interacting with other adult employees (who transmit the virus much easier) during the height of the local pandemic. There were cases at my job and everyone kept working. Teachers that teach young kids should go to work. Wear PPE keep your distance follow precautions. Ask daycares how they’ve been doing it.

High school could be remote as older children are more contagious and can more easily do online learning. Virtual kindergarten/1st/2nd grade is a joke. The only reason they would even do it is busy work for the teachers. It’s useless. My kindergartener would’ve been in school this year but now has to attend daycare/pre-K again. How is that any safer than kindergarten?

What about in economically depressed areas across the country where kids don't have internet access much less computers?

 

[Mikemarc]

Whose effort? Again so many more teachers worked their butts off virtual learning . We must keep in mind most teachers left school on a Friday and told you will teach virtually Monday. Now that they have experience with it should go smoother. Also falls on administration. They were also figuring it out. Should see more principals, heads of special ed. etc etc joining more of the Virtual classrooms, making sure teachers are doing all they can.

the problem with virtual teaching isn’t the teachers..it’s the students.

 

[vkj91]

Are you surrounded by 15 up to 23 people in one room in close quarters for 7-8 hours a day? How about pre-k teachers who work with young children who cough and sneeze on them a lot? How will these teachers social distance the students? What have schools done thus far to ensure the safety of staff and students besides providing hand sanitizer stations? Masks are not 100% virus-proof. Your 8 co-workers in a school setting would’ve sent the whole building into quarantine. Then what?

Sports and camps have been going on in this state for over a month. We’ve somehow managed to stay alive. Schools have had months to come up with plans.

 

[vkj91]

His administrations lack of guidance to school districts has made school district administrations nuts. He gave schools a 100 page document with basic guidelines and then said, FIGURE IT OUT. Now, a few weeks before schools are supposed to open, he changes the rules again. My district is going nuts trying to come to a consensus on what we are going to do. There are meetings going on everyday trying to figure out what is the best course of action. It's a nightmare trying to get equipment (most products are on back order) to provide proper remote learning. And I'm not biased against the teachers union. But it pisses me off when 350 plus losers from the ****** district of Elizabeth say they won't report to work. It's hard enough trying to educate the students in that district in person, never mind remotely.

I’m not doubting King Murphy has made it a nightmare for schools but how come catholic and private schools were able to figure it out? Many are going back 5 full days. Well, until Union makes Murphy not allow them because school choice is bad

 

[RuBird]

Sports and camps have been going on in this state for over a month. We’ve somehow managed to stay alive. Schools have had months to come up with plans.

Most of the time sports and camps are outside. It is indoors that is the problem that schools are running into. Proper ventilation, overcrowding etc etc....

 

[Mikemarc]

Are you surrounded by 15 up to 23 people in one room in close quarters for 7-8 hours a day? How about pre-k teachers who work with young children who cough and sneeze on them a lot? How will these teachers social distance the students? What have schools done thus far to ensure the safety of staff and students besides providing hand sanitizer stations? Masks are not 100% virus-proof. Your 8 co-workers in a school setting would’ve sent the whole building into quarantine. Then what?

You do realize nursery schools never shut down? Kids do not typically get adults sick. It’s been studied. It’s been reported.

 

[vkj91]

Most of the time sports and camps are outside. It is indoors that is the problem that schools are running into. Proper ventilation, overcrowding etc etc....

Yes, I understand that but plenty of other businesses are surviving inside. I understand for some districts it’s almost impossible to socially distance etc but those are not the majority.

 

[bac2therac]

What about in economically depressed areas across the country where kids don't have internet access much less computers?

the plan from Dem senators is to give everyone $2K for the duration of the pandemic and 3 months after and retroactive to March 2020, that should keep everyone quiet...and this isnt a political thread, this actually is the plan

 

[Caliknight]

I’m not doubting King Murphy has made it a nightmare for schools but how come catholic and private schools were able to figure it out? Many are going back 5 full days. Well, until Union makes Murphy not allow them because school choice is bad

Private schools and the parents care more about kids. Pretty easy to figure out.

 

[Rhuarc]

This thread has been very productive. Thanks everyone. :flush:

 

[RuBird]

Yes, I understand that but plenty of other businesses are surviving inside. I understand for some districts it’s almost impossible to socially distance etc but those are not the majority.

I do see some businesses where it works. Again depends on who you listen to. My buddies company spent big $$$ making sure the offices were safe so they could go back to work. A week before they were set to go back word from upper management all will work from home until at January. Some schools in other states who opened up in person have already had to change to all virtual. Bottom line is teachers want to teach the way they learned in college. In school in front of their kids. Problem now even if there is in person school it is not how it used to be. Teachers will be behind plexiglass. Many schools are going for no recess, no cafeteria, gym being very very different. Students not being able to work in groups as they can’t share equipment. Most students will have to wear masks. Younger students, especially special education students will struggle with the change. Of course students have struggled with virtual learning. I don’t see there being an easy answer.