OT: Back to K-12 school......

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LC-88

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She also mentioned that they will need to run more buses if they want any type of separation on the buses which cost more money that the town/ cities/states do not have due to lower tax revenue.
Im more concerned with the bus ride vs time in the classroom. And the cost will be staggering.
 

NickRU714

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Shouldn’t teachers be in Group A and B in that scenario too? The whole point would be so the two sets of kids/teachers stay separate .

Not enough teachers to split up?
Good point though.

The point of split teams (in school or at work) is to have no crossover contact.
 

T2Kplus10

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Oh lay off Little fkr1000 (we all know your secret Greg)
At least he’s not spending half page making pervy innuendos towards you
Wait, Greg is Little Formerly? Time for some fake shock!

 
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hoochie302

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If you believe Betsy has done a great job, you must be a 1%er.

Someone congratulated the private schools for doing awesome OK remote learning....1) if students don't work in private schools they can get kicked out. 2) $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 

Plum Street

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Not enough teachers to split up?
Good point though.

The point of split teams (in school or at work) is to have no crossover contact.

Yep, it’s just another half *** measure and it’s one of the reasons why we are where we are in this country
 
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jreinsdorf

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I work with Preschool Disabled and children with ASD. Having them wear masks is not an option.
Curious to see what will happen. All our kids are bused in as well.
As do I. My kids are ages 3-21. We went back with no teachers yesterday and the kids start Monday. Im on the medical staff and we feel well prepared but experience is the best teacher so ESY will reveal a lot for September onwards.
 
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MoobyCow

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Schools can reopen ... but classrooms better look like this or else it'll be a total disaster.

(Pictures of schools today in China, Japan and South Korea, respectively):






No worries, we'll just have the teachers pick up the masks and dividers along with the extra pens, pencils and notebooks we normally make them buy. They can install them in the next few weeks as they aren't doing anything anyway.

Also no chance any of the kids will have parents who will flip the **** out if little Johnny is required to wear a mask.

Everything is fine.
 
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mikebal9

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No worries, we'll just have the teachers pick up the masks and dividers along with the extra pens, pencils and notebooks we normally make them buy. They can install them in the next few weeks as they aren't doing anything anyway.

Also no chance any of our kids will have parents who will flip the **** out if little Johnny is required to wear a mask.

Everything is fine.
I'm already assuming I'll be purchasing a stockpile of masks, gloves, wipes, and sprays for my classroom. Why not add plexiglass partitions?
Since our district's state aid was cut by several million dollars, there really isn't any other way to make it happen.
 

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I'm already assuming I'll be purchasing a stockpile of masks, gloves, wipes, and sprays for my classroom. Why not add plexiglass partitions?
Since our district's state aid was cut by several million dollars, there really isn't any other way to make it happen.
You probably will have to take on more janitorial duties to clean up the classroom.
 
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MoobyCow

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I'm already assuming I'll be purchasing a stockpile of masks, gloves, wipes, and sprays for my classroom. Why not add plexiglass partitions?
Since our district's state aid was cut by several million dollars, there really isn't any other way to make it happen.

I kind of feel like we're at the point where I should thank you for your service.

Best of luck.
 

Knightmoves

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Starting to sound like many teachers don’t want to go back into the classroom this Fall, yet have no science to support their position.

What position does the NJ teachers union take on returning to the classroom?
 
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The split teacher idea makes sense, don't know how they would do it...especially for teachers with multiple grades.

Or by grade (middle school level)
 

Shell21

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The split teacher idea makes sense, don't know how they would do it...especially for teachers with multiple grades.

Or by grade (middle school level)
Split teachers at the lower grades will not work . I teach at a 4th and 5th grade school and each teacher teaches their class a few subjects and another teachers class a few subjects . If you have kids go half day each , you’d have half of one class come for the morning and the other the afternoon. The teacher would need to be there for both groups to teach all the kids . The only way you could do it is if al the kids in a given class come in on the same day and not on the other day .

at the secondary level it may work slightly better but there are way more kids than teachers and teachers teach multiple grade levels at least at high school so I doubt it would work
 
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MoobyCow

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Starting to sound like many teachers don’t want to go back into the classroom this Fall, yet have no science to support their position.

What position does the NJ teachers union take on returning to the classroom?

It's worth noting that there have been breakouts in day cares (see links above), so they don't have no basis for their fears. Places that have opened schools up have done so with precautions, precautions that teachers America have good reason to believe won't be attempted/followed here. In addition no place opened up while they were at record highs for cases.

The science on everything about this virus is very preliminary and unsettled and if America opens up schools while the virus is still this prevalent, the science says nothing about that because no one else tried it.
 

Skindawgs

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Starting to sound like many teachers don’t want to go back into the classroom this Fall, yet have no science to support their position.

What position does the NJ teachers union take on returning to the classroom?

Haven't been paying attention I guess??
Science
How about record highs the past week of infections?
How about its over 20x higher possible infection indoors???
How about this country is now a dumpster fire compared to countries who implanted country wide policy to fight the virus??
Guess your not a teacher over 50 who might have to deal with this???
 

vkj91

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I am scared to death about sending my three grandchildren, who live with me, back to school. I'm 67 years old with underlying conditions and don't want to become infected, as it would probably kill me.
Are your grandkids and their parents still quarantined? No camps? No play dates? No work?
 

chickenpatty2

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We're looking @ the following for a HS scenario -- still being discussed, of course.

Week 1:
Monday: Group A students in school/Group B students online
Half Days (30 minute classes)
Cleaning/Sterilization during remainder of day

Tuesday: Group B students in school/Group A students online
Wednesday: All virtual
Thursday: Group A
Friday: Group B

Week 2:
Monday: B school/A online
Tuesday: A school/B online
Wednesday: Virtual
Thursday: B school/A online
Friday: A school/B online

Virtual Days (Wednesdays) would allow for needed practice and improvement in using various virtual technologies, while also helping us prepare for potential full closing, if needed. Most in-school classes would max @ 12 students.
 
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MoobyCow

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We're looking @ the following for a HS scenario -- still being discussed, of course.

Week 1:
Monday: Group A students in school/Group B students online
Half Days (30 minute classes)
Cleaning/Sterilization during remainder of day

Tuesday: Group B students in school/Group A students online
Wednesday: All virtual
Thursday: Group A
Friday: Group B

Week 2:
Monday: B school/A online
Tuesday: A school/B online
Wednesday: Virtual
Thursday: B school/A online
Friday: A school/B online

Virtual Days (Wednesdays) would allow for needed practice and improvement in using various virtual technologies, while also helping us prepare for potential full closing, if needed. Most in-school classes would max @ 12 students.

How are the online kids handled? Are they livestreaming the class, or do those kids just have online work assigned? A teacher can't both teach in the class, and have interaction with the online kids at the same time.

Oi, I'm glad I don't have to figure this out.
 

Shell21

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How are the online kids handled? Are they livestreaming the class, or do those kids just have online work assigned? A teacher can't both teach in the class, and have interaction with the online kids at the same time.

Oi, I'm glad I don't have to figure this out.
Teachers in my district would like to have something like this but our super is trying to get every kid in the building in the morning up until lunch . We have close to 700 kids and 20-24 kids in a classroom so I have no idea if this will work . He’s using the American pediatrics guidelines where they say kids can be anywhere from 3-6 feet in the classroom . The problem is hallways and common areas . I guess the kids might be just in the one classroom all day and avoid hallways and things like that . Maybe specials come to them ? All of these details haven’t been explained to us yet

they are also going to livestream the kids who decide to stay home or who don’t pass the temp check . I can’t even imagine how long it’s going to take the kids to get in the buildings while taking their temps .
 

chickenpatty2

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How are the online kids handled? Are they livestreaming the class, or do those kids just have online work assigned? A teacher can't both teach in the class, and have interaction with the online kids at the same time.

Oi, I'm glad I don't have to figure this out.


Yeah . . . all being discussed/worked out/tweaked/re-tweaked, I'm sure. I believe that, indeed, online students will be "live" at the same time as classroom students. Of course, having solid technology will be critical on both ends. TBD . . . In any event, much more time built in for cleaning @ the school.
 

Rhuarc

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1) There should be a stimulus package provided to school districts to purchase safety materials and PPE for the schools. The money can only be purchased on this. This is what a real leader who wants schools to open up should say and do.

2) Safety measures should be uniform across classrooms in each district, county and state. There should be little room for interpretation and fudging.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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All these "science" based accommodations will mean nothing in situations that will be repeated day after day after day. They all reduce risk, not eliminate risk. Repeated, but lessened, exposure risk will result in spread. As said early in the process.. it may "flatten the curve" but is that necessary now?

Go back to the old normal.. make accommodations for those at high risk of complications... and let life continue.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Obama's guy was a charter school guy too. DeVos is not the problem.. the teachers' unions have not fixed failing schools but keep saying.. just spend more on us. Public school teachers, regardless of pay, succeed where the nuclear family succeeds and they fail with the family structure is in tatters. Coincidence?
 
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Rhuarc

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Obama's guy was a charter school guy too. DeVos is not the problem.. the teachers' unions have not fixed failing schools but keep saying.. just spend more on us. Public school teachers, regardless of pay, succeed where the nuclear family succeeds and they fail with the family structure is in tatters. Coincidence?
You're mixing up the typical anti-union rhetoric with the immediacy of the current situation. We have about a month and a half until this **** show starts and the Secretary of Education has done nothing but push an agenda without any monetary or structure to accomplish her demands. That's the problem you're ignoring.

You can argue family units and union stances after we make sure this is taken care of, thanks.
 

Shell21

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Obama's guy was a charter school guy too. DeVos is not the problem.. the teachers' unions have not fixed failing schools but keep saying.. just spend more on us. Public school teachers, regardless of pay, succeed where the nuclear family succeeds and they fail with the family structure is in tatters. Coincidence?
I agree with the nuclear family part / supportive family . That won’t change no matter who is in charge but she displays no leadership whatsoever regardless of her background . She has been silent since March , offering no guidance , encouragement or plan throughout the whole pandemic . It’s been like this much of her tenure and I highly doubt she’s even stepped foot in many public schools
 

MoobyCow

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This is not the only one. Still, I wish we knew a few more things. Like how many people there were at the camp? 82 of 150 is bad. 82 of 1,500 less so. How many of those were adults vs kids?

How many camps have been open? Is this 1 camp out of 10 that had a big issue or 1 out of 100?

No doubt we're going to have more of these, but it's really hard to get a handle on what it means when there is no context.
 
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