If the season is canceled.

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I'm with the people that say if the season is cancelled, some sort of Armageddon is ongoing.

I guess we could be in a situation where the economy is open but sports are banned? But I don't really think it's likely.

If the economy is still closed by the Labor Day I have no idea what the world is going to look like but I think football will be the least of our worries.
 

RUinBoston

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Based on?
By summer COVID testing capacity will be high enough that it will likely be safe to have practices and play games....you just keep testing the players and coaches and staff over and over. However, will fans be allowed at the games? That could be another story. And of course if the schools don't open....
 
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RUScrew85

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I saw MLB is talking about playing around June-July - no all star game. No fans for most if not all of the season. 2/3rds of MLB revenue comes from TV. They'll forgo the fans if they have to. Going to larger rosters instead of re-doing Spring Training.

Not a bad plan.
 
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RU848789

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I'm saying that absent a vaccine (not happening within the next 6 months, for certain) there's no way out of this other than to maintain the new normal, ergo football season doesn't happen. And, consistent with what others have said on this thread, another six months of this will guarantee that the economy is in a shambles.

Look, it's obvious you're a Trumper, based on everything you've written. That makes you an idiot, it gains you immediate standing on my Ignore list and means that I'm done with your stupid ***. So don't even bother with a reply, because you're now blocked.
There is another hope. The plasma-antibody approach could, in theory, be scaled to treat at least maybe 5-10% of the population and if there's another 5-10% with immunity now, maybe that's enough to prevent further outbreaks (I don't really know - haven't seen what % is needed for "herd immunity" for this virus). Or if the engineered antibody approach pays off by late summer, it could be scaled up pretty fast to inoculate a large % of the population (maybe a delayed season?). But a ton has to go perfectly to save NFL or NCAA football. Or maybe one of the novel protein/peptide treatments or some other new treatment might work (they seem to work in the lab, but months to go before they are tested in humans), but those are very long shots.

No change in my stance. Even if we flatten the curve enough to get past this first wave, odds are high that <1% of Americans will be known to have been infected from the virus test, meaning a next wave could happen easily if we relaxed social distancing significantly, and allowing large crowds will be the last thing approved. Many think the virus will be seasonal, slowing down some soon (especially with all our interventions), but coming back in the fall with a vengeance.

The one caveat to this is we have no idea right now how many were infected but didn't get sick and have immunity from the antibodies they produced in fighting the virus - we know about half of those who tested positive in some settings (like the Diamond Princess) never developed symptoms, so it's possible there are many more who have antibodies but don't know it. This would mean many would likely be immune and it would also mean any future outbreaks would be smaller, with less "targets" walking around. The antibody tests are now available as of today, I think - we need to do a controlled study on a representative population subset in our area to really see how many are in this situation.

So, I still say that unless we have a proven treatment in place by the end of July at the latest, football will be cancelled. The odds on having a reliable, high success rate drug treatment from the many old repurposed drugs being tested, like HCQ, remdesivir and other antivirals, is very low. The best short range option (it's starting now), many think, is the old school plasmapheresis approach I started a thread on today, where antibodies from recovered, infected patients are collected in blood-plasma and infused into sick patients to give them the antibodies to fight the disease off. This approach could also be used as a preventative for high risk populations like the elderly, the immunocompromised, and health care workers. Not sure it's scalable to everyone assuming it works.

Beyond that, the engineered antibody approach is probably the most promising and could be ready by mid/late summer from what I've heard. It uses transgenic mice to produce antibodies to a similar virus and then these antibodies can be "grown" in cell bioreactors and the best ones tested in humans to see if they protect against the virus for those who are infected and sick (this was used for Ebola); it could also be a short-term (months?) preventative for anyone.

And finally, there are vaccines, which will likely take at least 11-12 months to be ready for the public (could be emergency use though before then).
 
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RUScrew85

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Just saw some rumors about MLB taking all the teams to AZ and playing games there with no fans. ST restarts in May, season June 1. Just a rumor so far...
 
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If they play, fans will not be allowed to attend. There is no vaccine that is going to be available by September.
 

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There is another hope. The plasma-antibody approach could, in theory, be scaled to treat at least maybe 5-10% of the population and if there's another 5-10% with immunity now, maybe that's enough to prevent further outbreaks (I don't really know - haven't seen what % is needed for "herd immunity" for this virus).
Most of the estimates I've seen suggest 50% up to 70% is needed for effective herd immunity. However, every little bit will help...20% is better than nothing though I think you'd still need to be implementing various social distancing protocols (including no mass gatherings like sporting events, though the games could be played without fans).
 
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Rutgers25

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I'm with the people that say if the season is cancelled, some sort of Armageddon is ongoing.

I guess we could be in a situation where the economy is open but sports are banned? But I don't really think it's likely.

If the economy is still closed by the Labor Day I have no idea what the world is going to look like but I think football will be the least of our worries.

Agree, you can’t have partial social distancing. We’re either all in or not. Players can’t play in empty stadiums but restaurants are open again? What about weddings, funerals, house parties, etc. makes no sense to ban one thing but return to normalcy elsewhere.
 
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Agree, you can’t have partial social distancing. We’re either all in or not. Players can’t play in empty stadiums but restaurants are open again? What about weddings, funerals, house parties, etc. makes no sense to ban one thing but return to normalcy elsewhere.
Biggest problem might be mass transit once people start going back to work. I can see very large gatherings (like 20,000 in a stadium) banned while smaller gatherings (restaurants, weddings/funerals) are allowed but whatever is ultimately chosen will have to be adjusted for conditions, i.e. if virus starts spreading again in a particular area restrictions will be tightened. Unless we find a really effective therapeutic or vaccine I don't see how that can be avoided. Can't keep the country shut down for the next year but can't allow spread to get out of control either. Not going to be easy.
 
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RUBOB72

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The season will most likely be cancelled since other areas of this country will still be in the throws of the covid19 virus... no vaccine for a year to a year and a half will be the reason...
 
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RUevolution36

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Just wanted to mention that, even if campus isn't open doesn't mean that school won't open. Almost every university worth a damn has an online presence. They'll just need to scale up that presence and hold classes online.
 

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Will we get an option for a refund?Or will they just give a credit for 2021?

The problem with doing the latter is that there are only 6 home games next year.

Would the NCAA allow a 13th game this one time to allow teams to get to 7?
If there's no season this year, they'll probably have to raise prices next year so it'll be a wash anyway.
 

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Does any commissioner of any major sport realize if they
can get their sport back in the stadium and on TV, they will reap huge advertising and revenue $$???? I realize, there are more important things than sports, but you KNOW this is on their minds.
 

czxqa

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Does any commissioner of any major sport realize if they
can get their sport back in the stadium and on TV, they will reap huge advertising and revenue $$???? I realize, there are more important things than sports, but you KNOW this is on their minds.
It's not just about money. After September 11th, how much did moments like these help heal and make life seem more normal to America, and to folks in our area in particular? It's almost 20 years later and I still have an emotional reaction.

President Bush in Yankees Stadium:


Mike Piazza in one of the first games after baseball resumed:
 
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RUaMoose_rivals

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Pretty simple: no vaccine, no season. All it will take is one locker room with one infection (like what happened with the NBA) so they won't even attempt to go there. Once there's a vaccine, all players will be required to get it or they won't play. Fans will have to show they've been vaccinated before being allowed to enter the stadium.
 
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Does any commissioner of any major sport realize if they
can get their sport back in the stadium and on TV, they will reap huge advertising and revenue $$???? I realize, there are more important things than sports, but you KNOW this is on their minds.
Dana white - supposedly, UFC is getting a private island to hold weekly fights.
 

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I think we’re looking at playing football in spring 2021. IMO, the fall is still way too soon
 

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With where we are at this moment, I can't see how we could open the season in the fall.

I don’t know if there will be a season. Too early to tell. . But if there is one i can’t imagine they will allow fans at games even if fans are allowed at pro games. I just can’t see the presidents of the universities allowing 50k-100k+ people on the campuses in the fall when they are trying to protect their students health unless there is a vaccine. Especially with the fall/winter flu season and risk of a relapse.
 

wheezer

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I will go out on a limb and assume if the season is cancelled they will make it difficult to get your money back and just give you a credit towards next season.

I think they will tell us now that the money is credited towards next season, then forget that and send us another bill for next season early next year....:Wink:
 
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wheezer

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I'm with the people that say if the season is cancelled, some sort of Armageddon is ongoing.

assume the crisis is done by Labor day....the NCAA could take the attitude where the schools just put their product on the field, with limited practices before....

or take the stance that the universities have not had the proper time to prepare, and make a huge adjustment to when games be played, or not at all
 

RUBOB72

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It's not just about money. After September 11th, how much did moments like these help heal and make life seem more normal to America, and to folks in our area in particular? It's almost 20 years later and I still have an emotional reaction.

President Bush in Yankees Stadium:)


Mike Piazza in one of the first games after baseball resumed:
 

RUBOB72

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9/11 was a horrific shock especially in this area of the country...right in our backyard and difficult not to see up close...most other parts of the nation mourned but the impact was felt more here than in say California or many other rural states...this pandemic is different ...It is deadly, lingering and is mentally trying on most of the population in NY and NJ. ... a continuous bad news daily drama...not so much so in other areas as is seen on the news... Those games certainly helped many but unless a vaccine is available I don’t see many in favor of putting people’s lives and families in jeopardy...could not see tailgating or partying going on as it once was... it is a much , much different period going forward.
 

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It's not just about money. After September 11th, how much did moments like these help heal and make life seem more normal to America, and to folks in our area in particular? It's almost 20 years later and I still have an emotional reaction.

President Bush in Yankees Stadium:


Mike Piazza in one of the first games after baseball resumed:


Always felt the Braves pitcher served up a meatball to MP there. Don't think the Braves would have felt good winning that game. Mike still had to hit it though.
 
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Myrtleknight

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Zero reason to make a decision now.

If I had to bet on: fans and ncaa football in the fall, no fans and ncaa football in the fall or fans and football in the spring. I’d bet the spring.