RAC Renovation Plans coming soon

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:):Rutgers:Football::Baseball::Basketball: :Hoops::CHOP:pounding Nails:Chop banana::cool2:[cheers]:WooHoo:
 

red sail

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6 things they should do to Improve the RAC.
1) figure out how to add seats in the Corners
2) add bathrooms to the back side of the RAC (on the student sect side)
3) Add another level of seats above handicap and former Sect 118 up to a level of Suites
4) Add level of Suites in the current coaches offices area
5) Replace the 43 year torn up old cushioned seats in 100 Level
6) Extend the entrance of the RAC to accomodate New concourse with new food court and merchandise sales area

*** Open up 2 hours prior to tip so that food sales increase and gives fans a reason to come to the RAC earlier. Parking is another HUGE issue to figure out.
 
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red sail

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Build a concourse but don't mess with footprint of the RAC! Can't be that hard.

Yeah I agree... we shouldnt change the footprint of the RAC other than extend the entrance concourse area. all the other things i outlined above are just renovations to existing arena.
 
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RUBOB72

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So we are looking at somewhere between 2026-2030 to complete....this is a B1G project and I think it’s gonna be tough to do even with big donors jumping aboard ...Rutgers needs some major corporations and Boone Pickens types.... New practice facility and upgrade to Hale Center...renovations to RAC and baseball softball complexes ... I think safely in the realm of 275-350 million easily and probably more since we are located in the northeast... this may be a conservative figure....1/2 needs to come from private donors then ... state funding? And the $$$$$$ from the B1G isn’t this earmarked for Rutgers new buildings....general student body funds ... I guess we will all need deep pockets and hope we can produce some championships going forward... not having Coronavirus episodic events would boost the general feelings of many investors .
 

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So we are looking at somewhere between 2026-2030 to complete....this is a B1G project and I think it’s gonna be tough to do even with big donors jumping aboard ...Rutgers needs some major corporations and Boone Pickens types.... New practice facility and upgrade to Hale Center...renovations to RAC and baseball softball complexes ... I think safely in the realm of 275-350 million easily and probably more since we are located in the northeast... this may be a conservative figure....1/2 needs to come from private donors then ... state funding? And the $$$$$$ from the B1G isn’t this earmarked for Rutgers new buildings....general student body funds ... I guess we will all need deep pockets and hope we can produce some championships going forward... not having Coronavirus episodic events would boost the general feelings of many investors .

Didnt they just build a baseball complex
 

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The RAC needs additional rest rooms and additional space on the main concourse where its very difficult to walk through at half time to reach rest rooms and concession stands.Sell out crowds require updating the RAC to make it more public friendly.
Truth. Great post.
 

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Didnt they just build a baseball complex
It’s far from finished... lights for night games ... concession stand / stands ...chairback seating along left and right field ... in the conference we are currently in and against P5 teams that we play those accoutrements still need to be completed ... finish one project ... then football and RAC...oh ...and don’t forget the new cricket fields which are now being used at Piscataway Tech...the Werblin Center needs a few upgrades as well or hasn’t anyone noticed... just make it a cool 500 mil....lastly the Bauer track and field complex needs new lockers , lounges, weight room...
 

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6 things they should do to Improve the RAC.
1) figure out how to add seats in the Corners
2) add bathrooms to the back side of the RAC (on the student sect side)
3) Add another level of seats above handicap and former Sect 118 up to a level of Suites
4) Add level of Suites in the current coaches offices area
5) Replace the 43 year torn up old cushioned seats in 100 Level
6) Extend the entrance of the RAC to accomodate New concourse with new food court and merchandise sales area

*** Open up 2 hours prior to tip so that food sales increase and gives fans a reason to come to the RAC earlier. Parking is another HUGE issue to figure out.
Just mail this to them because it's spot on.

I sat in the 100's for the wrestling tournament and I couldn't believe how uncomfortable they were after a few hours. It was brutal.
 

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It amazing that with all the well to do people on this site, especially on the football board, we don’t do better.
 

needmorecowbell

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The average seating capacity of Big Ten arenas is 14639. Has to be somewhat intimidating to play on the road when the opponents buildings are roughly double the seating capacity of our’s.
This article ranks the arenas. We are #12 of 14 in the article.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/g66l-2019/01/94cb51cf478718/from-fantastic-to-forgettable.html
The answer is it depends... New arenas are often much bigger and do not provide an intimidating atmosphere. The sound doesn’t travel far and often empty seats upstairs. Many Maryland fans will tell you that their old smaller arena was more intimidating and a better home court advantage.
 
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So we are looking at somewhere between 2026-2030 to complete....this is a B1G project and I think it’s gonna be tough to do even with big donors jumping aboard ...Rutgers needs some major corporations and Boone Pickens types.... New practice facility and upgrade to Hale Center...renovations to RAC and baseball softball complexes ... I think safely in the realm of 275-350 million easily and probably more since we are located in the northeast... this may be a conservative figure....1/2 needs to come from private donors then ... state funding? And the $$$$$$ from the B1G isn’t this earmarked for Rutgers new buildings....general student body funds ... I guess we will all need deep pockets and hope we can produce some championships going forward... not having Coronavirus episodic events would boost the general feelings of many investors .

Oh dear Lord ...so let me get this straight...most of this is just YOUR opinion with a few data points to back up your general pessimism?
 

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RUBOB72

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Oh dear Lord ...so let me get this straight...most of this is just YOUR opinion with a few data points to back up your general pessimism?
Sure , it’s an opinion but probably not far off... just for the record , why does it bother you NUTS ... I have seen over the years and remember( I stayed away from this board for 2 years ) but decided to return when Greg was entertaining thoughts of returning... so tell me ... you are one who claims to always have the answers about the workings at Rutgers... I have seen other posters ( past several seasons) have unpleasant discourse with you because you like to be right and always a center of the Rutgers conversation... some of those back n forths were very positive ...others down right antagonizing...you used to bust my balls about the band size and things related to that particular part of Rutgers football ...it was just dumb things from a former band guy? I can guaranteec this NUTS to do all the upgrades between football , basketball , baseball , track n field will be beyond 150 million... you are looking at between 275- 300 million... yeah I’ll go with that figure... prove me wrong ... lastly , I’m glad you see there were some tongue in cheek mentions... like cricket fields , the pool at Werblin...Hope we can do all these improvements for as little as possible but I don’t see it happening... enjoy the game on Thursday we will win 73-65.
 

red sail

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Every seat should be a seat

Get rid of the bleachers

If there truly is intent to renovate the RAC, Yes they might as well get rid of all the bleachers in the 200s and 300s and make them all seats. We probably lose some seating capacity though if they do that, because the spacing of a seat probably takes more width than the spacing of a "seat" on a bleacher. I don't think they should change the bleachers in the student section. The students stand all game anyway and pack themselves in.
 
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If there truly is intent to renovate the RAC, Yes they might as well get rid of all the bleachers in the 200s and 300s and make them all seats. We probably lose some seating capacity though if they do that, because the spacing of a seat probably takes more width than the spacing of a "seat" on a bleacher. I don't think they should change the bleachers in the student section. The students stand all game anyway and pack themselves in.

There are no bleachers in the 200s
 

red sail

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Which comments are you referring to?
I think it's a bad take on Rutgers and Penn State. the writer wrote this in Jan 2019 and touched up his work in Sept 2019 ... not sure what he changed.

12. Rutgers Athletic Center

Rutgers' arena is half the size of some other Big Ten arenas. And for this program, that's the way it should be.

Rutgers isn't going to start drawing huge crowds any time soon, so it's better off in a building where the crowds it does draw fills more of a smaller space. And when you put a marquee opponent in there and Rutgers holds its own, it can be a better environment than you would think.

The arena itself could use a freshening up, to be sure. But the largest block of seats is cut close to the benches and rises high vertical.
 
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“Which comments are you referring to?” is with reference to Upstream’s comment “That article's comments about the RAC didn't age well”. What specific part of the RAC’s profile is Upstream referring to?
 

AreYouNUTS

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Sure , it’s an opinion but probably not far off... just for the record , why does it bother you NUTS ... I have seen over the years and remember( I stayed away from this board for 2 years ) but decided to return when Greg was entertaining thoughts of returning... so tell me ... you are one who claims to always have the answers about the workings at Rutgers... I have seen other posters ( past several seasons) have unpleasant discourse with you because you like to be right and always a center of the Rutgers conversation... some of those back n forths were very positive ...others down right antagonizing...you used to bust my balls about the band size and things related to that particular part of Rutgers football ...it was just dumb things from a former band guy? I can guaranteec this NUTS to do all the upgrades between football , basketball , baseball , track n field will be beyond 150 million... you are looking at between 275- 300 million... yeah I’ll go with that figure... prove me wrong ... lastly , I’m glad you see there were some tongue in cheek mentions... like cricket fields , the pool at Werblin...Hope we can do all these improvements for as little as possible but I don’t see it happening... enjoy the game on Thursday we will win 73-65.

Didn’t say anything bothered me I just wanted to confirm that this was basically opinion and you weren’t speaking factually for the school itself and their thoughts on the process. All good my friend.
 

Scarlet83

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The average seating capacity of Big Ten arenas is 14639. Has to be somewhat intimidating to play on the road when the opponents buildings are roughly double the seating capacity of our’s.
This article ranks the arenas. We are #12 of 14 in the article.

https://www.mlive.com/sports/g66l-2019/01/94cb51cf478718/from-fantastic-to-forgettable.html
From the article that was written in 2019:

“Rutgers isn't going to start drawing huge crowds any time soon...”

Couldn’t be more wrong.

2020 Rutgers basketball is disrupting B1G hoops blue bloods.
 
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Just rather than focusing only on upgrades, would hope they look into some other ways to build. Take a parking area for RAC along main thououghfare and lease for 99 years with conditions. Add some restraunts and take out, make it a place to meet congregate etc. Let them build it, University takes a third profits. Build a parking deck to help alleviate parking. Close it on game days. Right now most folks eat and drink elsewhere and then come last minute just before game making access and parking a nightmare.
 
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