B1G officiating

[Myrtleknight]

After having watched a ton of ncaa basketball this year I feel like the B1G officiating has been flat out bad. Outside of our RU perspective I feel like they have a number of obvious flaws.

* They are wildly inconsistent from half to half. They call games tight in one half and then loose in the second. Or vice versa.

* They feel the need to try to end games with similar foul numbers. And quickly call inconsequential and ticky tak foul calls to make up for any disparity.

* They call too many fouls in general. (But this may be my big east bias.)

 

[Erial_Lion_rivals140457]

* They call too many fouls in general. (But this may be my big east bias.)

In conference play, we are 31st of the 32 conferences in FTA/FGA. I often hear the complaint the other way, where people thing we’ll struggle in the dance because are teams aren’t used to games being called tightly.

Also keep in mind that these guys reffing the B1G are also doing some of these other games you’re watching most likely.

 

[Myrtleknight]

In conference play, we are 31st of the 32 conferences in FTA/FGA


What does that mean?

 

[bac2therac]

I like it better than Big East where they called a foul every minute. Much rather have it where they let things go

 

[Erial_Lion_rivals140457]

In conference play, we are 31st of the 32 conferences in FTA/FGA


What does that mean?

Free Throw Attempts per Field Goal attempt. It’s a measure of how many free throws are being attempted, and thus, how many fouls are being called. Only one conference goes to the line less in their conference games than the Big Ten.

In the Big Ten, there are .29 Free Throws for every shot attempted. Only conference lower is the Ivy. At the other end is the SWAC, with .4 FTA/FGA. So, in last nights R-Md game, you had 126 shots. Based on this season, you’d see 13-14 more Free Throws on average in a SWAC game at that rate.

 

[Myrtleknight]

Okay so they don’t call a lot of fouls that cause free throws. But is there statistical comparisons on the number of fouls called.

The B1G officials seem to never award continuation to the basket.

 

[Erial_Lion_rivals140457]

Okay so they don’t call a lot of fouls that cause free throws. But is there statistical comparisons on the number of fouls called.

The B1G officials seem to never award continuation to the basket.

The number of fouls itself wouldn’t be as meaningful since its not adjusted for pace (more possessions will mean more fouls).

 

[Myrtleknight]

The number of fouls itself wouldn’t be as meaningful since its not adjusted for pace (more possessions will mean more fouls).

Your fact make a good argument but the above is subjective, no?

 

[Caliknight]

B1G refs blow. Badly.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I really hope they make ref report cards public one day

FOIA request maybe? haha. Fed money goes to the schools.. the conference is a non-profit.. but is it a "public body"?

The reason I mention, and you are all well aware, there have been some heinous games the refs have called. Just scratch your head hard-to-explain.. who was the big man player they called, then erased a foul on to give it to a guard in our game.. after a replay that clearly showed they had the right call to begin with? And then last night.. that miracle shot by Montez when he was whacked to the ground on his shot?

Just a crazy no-call.. its like none of them were watching the ball or the shot.. none of them had an obstructed view from what I could see.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I like it better than Big East where they called a foul every minute. Much rather have it where they let things go

This

The big ten lets them play much more than the big east and let’s game be more decided on the court

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I like it better than Big East where they called a foul every minute. Much rather have it where they let things go

They let a lot go tonight in Newark

 

[The RUT]

This is what has the potential to kill us in the tournament.

If we get refs that call a tight game we’re going to have a hard time.

 

[Scangg]

This is what has the potential to kill us in the tournament.

If we get refs that call a tight game we’re going to have a hard time.

We also attack the basket a lot so we might actually get a ton of calls we don't normally get. One negative I could see Geo getting called for his off hand on drives. He gets away with it constantly but different refs might jump all over that

 

[Miggins]

In conference play, we are 31st of the 32 conferences in FTA/FGA. I often hear the complaint the other way, where people thing we’ll struggle in the dance because are teams aren’t used to games being called tightly.

Also keep in mind that these guys reffing the B1G are also doing some of these other games you’re watching most likely.

Myles Johnson used this statistic to choose Rutgers. The B10 was the best conference for his offensive and defensive game

In conference play, we are 31st of the 32 conferences in FTA/FGA. I often hear the complaint the other way, where people thing we’ll struggle in the dance because are teams aren’t used to games being called tightly.

Also keep in mind that these guys reffing the B1G are also doing some of these other games you’re watching most likely.

This is why Myles Johson choose Rutgers, B10 lack of foul shots complimented his offensive and defensive game Hyper smart guy used the statistical analysis!

 

[BOCA93]

Agree with the OP - my main complaint has always been the wild inconsistency game to game and half to half. That said, BIG officiating overall favors RU’s style of play and I think they tend to benefit more often than not. There’s no flow to a lot of the other conference’s games with the whistle blowing every 5 seconds.

 

[RU848789]

The reason I mention, and you are all well aware, there have been some heinous games the refs have called. Just scratch your head hard-to-explain.. who was the big man player they called, then erased a foul on to give it to a guard in our game.. after a replay that clearly showed they had the right call to begin with?

As I posted after the game, that was the correct call. The refs only reviewed who the guy behind our guy was, who was called for the foul - they had misidentified that guy as Wesson - who did, indeed foul our guy, but that foul wasn't called, so that part wasn't reviewable. Who committed the called foul is reviewable, but not other fouls that might have been missed.

 

[RUChoppin]

B1G calls too many fouls? I don't get that take at all. B1G calls fewer fouls per play than most other conferences, especially on bigs and against home teams.

I agree that the officiating has been inconsistent, though, and they'll sometimes call ticky tack fouls later in games to help things "even out" - which may make it feel like they call too many fouls, when really they've already let so much contact go by that point that one team has only 2 fouls at the end of a half and they're trying to catch up to the curve.

 

[new jersey1_rivals661559]

Myles Johnson used this statistic to choose Rutgers. The B10 was the best conference for his offensive and defensive game


This is why Myles Johson choose Rutgers, B10 lack of foul shots complimented his offensive and defensive game Hyper smart guy used the statistical analysis!

But, the Ivy calls less fouls than the B1G and he had multiple offers from there.

 

[srru86]

Overturning that call against Mulcahy when he reacted to being hook'd n' held wasn't so bad.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

As I posted after the game, that was the correct call. The refs only reviewed who the guy behind our guy was, who was called for the foul - they had misidentified that guy as Wesson - who did, indeed foul our guy, but that foul wasn't called, so that part wasn't reviewable. Who committed the called foul is reviewable, but not other fouls that might have been missed.

They initially signaled it as Wesson (thanks for remembering it was the OSU game) and then changed it.. the Wesson foul happened first and it was worse than the second man it. The guy they put it on, iirc, was the only white guy out there for them. If they initially called it on a white guy, there would be no need for review. So that's a BS explanation of how they moved a foul on Wesson to some less important player.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Overturning that call against Mulcahy when he reacted to being hook'd n' held wasn't so bad.

but admit it.. it was shocking that one of those went in our favor, wasn't it?

 

[Scangg]

Agree with the change from half to half. Completely changes sometimes which is really terrible terrible reffing and unfair to the players. Also, the lame touch fouls to even things out is so contrived at times. Definitely would prefer letting them play vs constant foul calls though

 

[srru86]

but admit it.. it was shocking that one of those went in our favor, wasn't it?

Oh yes - I was gobsmacked.

 

[koleszar]

After having watched a ton of ncaa basketball this year I feel like the B1G officiating has been flat out bad. Outside of our RU perspective I feel like they have a number of obvious flaws.

* They are wildly inconsistent from half to half. They call games tight in one half and then loose in the second. Or vice versa.

* They feel the need to try to end games with similar foul numbers. And quickly call inconsequential and ticky tak foul calls to make up for any disparity.

* They call too many fouls in general. (But this may be my big east bias.)

Just remember this when it comes to B1G refereeing. We are the only team in the B1G conference which sets moving screens. Once you accept that, then B1G refereeing becomes much easier to stomach.

 

[srru86]

We are the only team in the B1G conference which sets moving screens.

Ah - of course, how did I not see that?

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Just remember this when it comes to B1G refereeing. We are the only team in the B1G conference which sets moving screens. Once you accept that. then B1G refereeing becomes much easier to stomach.

We are also the only team that carries the ball. So we got that going for us.

We may also be the only team that says mean things to opponents.. too mean.. technically.

 

[SirScarlet]

Just remember this when it comes to B1G refereeing. We are the only team in the B1G conference which gets called for moving screens. Once you accept that. then B1G refereeing becomes much easier to stomach.

FIFY

 

[richthedentist]

Overturning that call against Mulcahy when he reacted to being hook'd n' held wasn't so bad.

Because that was a clear hook and hold I hate the rule but by the letter of the rule it was 100% the right call in overturning the call on the floor

 

[richthedentist]

What about the fact that the refs don't know what a traveling violation is how many of those do they miss