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Runs some nice sets on offense. Despite that wiscy fans wanna seemingly run him out of town haha. I hope they get their wish and we get him as an assistant to run the O
 
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He and McCaffery have done a really nice job overcoming adversity this year. I think Fran has done a slightly better job all things considered. Chambers would probably be my third pick.
 
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It will be 20 out of 21 or 21 out of the last 22 seasons that Wisconsin makes the NCAAS...still the least respected name brand program in the country.

The notion wasn't Kobe King, it was replacing 1st team Ethan Happ...Happ was a good college player, but wasn't a perimeter shooter and a bad FT shooter. And he averaged a double double most years.

Micah Potter and Aleem Ford are better players within the team concepts vs Happ...they now have 5 players who can all shoot and pass. And fouling them late in games if you are trailing, puts good FT shooting on the line.

Gard is a victim of fans who watch him ignore AAU circuits and wonder why their players can't fit into their program at their state school or area. And because of that, Wisconsin always loses "the offseason hype machine". It's frustrating to be told what you are doing is bad for 8 to 9 months a year and then have those fans go silent when you pile up 20 to 23 wins a year.
 
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RUsojo

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NewJerseyHawk said:
It will be 20 out of 21 or 21 out of the last 22 seasons that Wisconsin makes the NCAAS...still the least respected name brand program in the country.

The notion wasn't Kobe King, it was replacing 1st team Ethan Happ...Happ was a good college player, but wasn't a perimeter shooter and a bad FT shooter. And he averaged a double double most years.

Micah Potter and Aleem Ford are better players within the team concepts vs Happ...they now have 5 players who can all shoot and pass. And fouling them late in games if you are trailing, puts good FT shooting on the line.

Gard is a victim of fans who watch him ignore AAU circuits and wonder why their players can't fit into their program at their state school or area. And because of that, Wisconsin always loses "the offseason hype machine". It's frustrating to be told what you are doing is bad for 8 to 9 months a year and then have those fans go silent when you pile up 20 to 23 years a year.
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fwiw Potter has been pretty bad recently and Gard takes him out VERY frequently in crucial 2H stretches
 
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RUsojo said:
fwiw Potter has been pretty bad recently and Gard takes him out VERY frequently in crucial 2H stretches
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They can do that because they have superior guard play from Davison and Pritzl in key stretches. Was never more evident than those two eating up our guards last meeting. They hit threes and can get into the mid range game to hit shots.
 
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goru7

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RUsojo said:
fwiw Potter has been pretty bad recently and Gard takes him out VERY frequently in crucial 2H stretches
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You do not watch closely. Potter is reason they are winning lately as he has come off the bench and scored double digits and multiple threes . His 18 points that day , and a few others with 18 and 14 has made the difference. The Wisconsin fans and most of us watching was wondering why he was playing Rievers 35 minutes and Potter 5 minutes. Gard corrected it but he was being crucified on their boards and with their fans.
 
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RUsojo

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You do not watch closely. Potter is reason they are winning lately as he has come off the bench and scored double digits and multiple threes . His 18 points that day , and a few others with 18 and 14 has made the difference. The Wisconsin fans and most of us watching was wondering why he was playing Rievers 35 minutes and Potter 5 minutes. Gard corrected it but he was being crucified on their boards and with their fans.
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That’s what I thought too originally. But after watching the last two games that’s changed and Wisconsin is still winning.
 
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RUsojo said:
That’s what I thought too originally. But after watching the last two games that’s changed and Wisconsin is still winning.
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They have won 6 in a row , at least 4 of them because of Potter. Wisconsin does not beat us except for Potter shooting 4-5 from 3 and scoring 18 points off the bench in limited minutes.
 
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RUsojo

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goru7 said:
They have won 6 in a row , at least 4 of them because of Potter. Wisconsin does not beat us except for Potter shooting 4-5 from 3 and scoring 18 points off the bench in limited minutes.
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Not going to argue the Rutgers game. Thought we would definitely beat Wisconsin as I personally think we match up really well every against them BUT Potter crushed us as he was feeling it and generally we can’t defend the pick and pop because our front court lacks athleticism.

Just saying of late Potter is not being relied on in crunch time.
 
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RUsojo said:
Not going to argue the Rutgers game. Thought we would definitely beat Wisconsin as I personally think we match up really well every against them BUT Potter crushed us as he was feeling it and generally we can’t defend the pick and pop because our front court lacks athleticism.

Just saying of late Potter is not being relied on in crunch time.
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Well, Gard is old school. He goes back to his starters and his seniors. Davidson , Trice and Pritzl have all upped their shooting game
 
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Gard has done an exceptional job this year. I saw Wisconsin earlier in the year at Legends when they lost to Richmond and lord were they awful

Remember debating with GRF how we would easily defeat Wisconsin at the RAC which we did

Though not an extremely talented team, Gard has improved this team magnificently throughout the year even when losing Kobe King.

Wisconsin has tough kids none more than Davison who does everything imaginable to do all the things necessary to win games.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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looking back....
That was the game (Wisconsin part 1) that ended our 1st phase of we stink period
The Minnesota game was the the last game of the Sweet 16 phase
The Penn State game hopefully was the end of 2nd phase We stink
 
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RUJMM78

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I wish Rutgers had 4-5 three point shooters like Wisconsin which makes them difficult to defend along with inside post players.
 
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RUsojo said:
Not going to argue the Rutgers game. Thought we would definitely beat Wisconsin as I personally think we match up really well every against them BUT Potter crushed us as he was feeling it and generally we can’t defend the pick and pop because our front court lacks athleticism.

Just saying of late Potter is not being relied on in crunch time.
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It's not just lately, it's been the whole time Potter has been eligible. He's just not as familiar/experienced with the rules of the Wisconsin defense, so in crunch time, yeah, they go with Reuvers. Potter is a better stat-stuffer when he's in, but the team's defensive efficiency is quite a bit better with Reuvers. Like Pikiell, it's defense-first with Gard.

I would say the biggest beneficiary of King leaving has been Ford - although he's been a starter all year, his role is much greater than it was, and he's stepped up to play his best basketball of his Badger career.

None of the players are really stars, but all of them can and do contribute (5 different leading scorers over the 6-game winning streak). It was indeed a process to wean themselves off of the way they played with Happ, and they tried to plug Reuvers into that role and he just doesn't have that skill set (few do). The offense with Happ and now without basically have the same efficiency numbers even though they get there different ways. That's called adapting to your strengths, and that's why Gard does deserve some post-season award consideration.
 
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Wisconsin shoots 77% from the free throw line and probably have been 80+ in the last 10 games. Seems like they never miss a free throw.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
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BadgerInSpartyland said:
It's not just lately, it's been the whole time Potter has been eligible. He's just not as familiar/experienced with the rules of the Wisconsin defense, so in crunch time, yeah, they go with Reuvers. Potter is a better stat-stuffer when he's in, but the team's defensive efficiency is quite a bit better with Reuvers. Like Pikiell, it's defense-first with Gard.

I would say the biggest beneficiary of King leaving has been Ford - although he's been a starter all year, his role is much greater than it was, and he's stepped up to play his best basketball of his Badger career.

None of the players are really stars, but all of them can and do contribute (5 different leading scorers over the 6-game winning streak). It was indeed a process to wean themselves off of the way they played with Happ, and they tried to plug Reuvers into that role and he just doesn't have that skill set (few do). The offense with Happ and now without basically have the same efficiency numbers even though they get there different ways. That's called adapting to your strengths, and that's why Gard does deserve some post-season award consideration.
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IIRC they also lead the big ten in 3s or close to it and the difference from their 3pt output from last year is drastic.
 
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knights1212 said:
Is King really at Nebraska now? If so he must sit a year I believe.
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We'll see. The NCAA seems to waive the rules in certain circumstances. UW did end up firing their S&C coach who used a racial slur in retelling a story (he was quoting it, not originating it, but it doesn't really matter), so King might be able to argue hostile workplace. This line of argument has worked for other transfers.

King did end up quitting after the 2nd semester had started, so he shouldn't get that half-year of eligibility back. He already had one year on a medical redshirt, too, so I don't know how that plays into the mix here, either.
 
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BadgerInSpartyland

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RUsojo said:
IIRC they also lead the big ten in 3s or close to it and the difference from their 3pt output from last year is drastic.
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I think they're maybe #2, but the point stands. They were way better at 2's with Happ, and that's how they maintained their efficiency. The other thing is that neither Happ nor Khalil Iverson could hit a 3 and they played together over 30 minutes a game. Now all 5 guys on the floor at all times can hit them.
 
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