BACATOLOGY: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS 2/25

NewJerseyHawk

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Arkansas hosts LSU and goes to Texas A&M for anyone who still believes or wants to follow Jerry Palm.

Mississippi State goes to South Carolina then finishes up next weekend hosting in state rival Ole Miss.

In the Mountain West conference tourney which starts Wednesday.... bubble team Utah State plays Thursday, opponent TBD vs a team that plays Wednesday.

In the B1G....Indiana goes to Illinois, hosts Minnesota and Wisconsin next weekend.

In the Big East, Xavier is at Georgetown Sunday, at red hot Providence Wednesday and finishes up next weekend, hosting Butler.

The ACC has NC State at Duke on Monday and hosting Wake next Saturday.

If there are other teams missing from "bubble watch", toss them in here...
 

bac2therac

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bac2therac

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huge bubble games today

Cincinnati at Houston
Colorado at Stanford
Wichita St at SMU
Xavier at Georgetown
St Louis at Rhode Island
Indiana at Illinois
 

bac2therac

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UCLA is my projected winner from the Pac 12 and is currently seeded 11th. Cincinnati is my currently projected winner from AAC is seeded 10

FIRST 4 BYES: ARIZONA STATE, USC, OKLAHOMA, RUTGERS


LAST 4 IN: UTAH STATE, NORTH CAROLINA STATE, STANFORD, XAVIER

FIRST 4 OUT: WICHITA STATE, RICHMOND, RHODE ISLAND, TEXAS

NEXT 4 OUT: MISSISSIPPI STATE, PURDUE, ALABAMA, ARKANSAS
 

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Bac- strong possibility that either Richmond or Rhode Island get in based on performance in A-10 tournament, right?
 

bac2therac

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Bac- strong possibility that either Richmond or Rhode Island get in based on performance in A-10 tournament, right?

Rhode Island can make a statement ny beating Dayton later this week

Otherwise these 2 likely are to be pitted in the semis of A10 where winner looks good. My thinking is its a 2 bid league with 1 bid slightly more likely than 3
 

bac2therac

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Cincy down 10 midway through the 2nd half to Houston not only would this knock Cincy from the autobid of AAC but also on the wrong side of the bubble for now
 

bac2therac

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Houston win...now takes over as AAC auto bid winner. Cincy moves from that spotvto out of field which opens spot up in field....temporarily bumping Wichita State back into field
 
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goru7

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Houston win...now takes over as AAC auto bid winner. Cincy moves from that spotvto out of field which opens spot up in field....temporarily bumping Wichita State back into field
Something weird in the Net Rankings. Despite the Big 10 being the consensus best conference , our teams drop more in a loss , Penn State and Maryland than schools losing like West Virginia and Texas Tech and Butler who hardly move with losses, not to top teams but bubble teams or teams outside the bubble like TCU , Oklahoma State, or DePaul and Georgetown . Even the ACC top doesn’t move. Duke has lost 3 of 4 but still at 6 and Louisville losing 3of 4 and hardly move. Not sure what the formula is but those conferences are getting more of the benefit if the doubt.
 

bac2therac

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Something weird in the Net Rankings. Despite the Big 10 being the consensus best conference , our teams drop more in a loss , Penn State and Maryland than schools losing like West Virginia and Texas Tech and Butler who hardly move with losses, not to top teams but bubble teams or teams outside the bubble like TCU , Oklahoma State, or DePaul and Georgetown . Even the ACC top doesn’t move. Duke has lost 3 of 4 but still at 6 and Louisville losing 3of 4 and hardly move. Not sure what the formula is but those conferences are getting more of the benefit if the doubt.


Those schools have better SOS. It helps when Baylor and Kansas are on your schedule and 1-2 in the NET
 

blockm2

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I'm curious about UCLA. Even if they get smoked in their finale @ ASU and get bounced early in P12 tourney, they could potentially still be P12 regular season cochamps. I wonder if the committee would give any weight to that as to their at large chances. I wonder if any P5 conference regular season co-champ has ever not gotten a bid.
 

bac2therac

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Xavier wins. Needed this one but no lock. Will need one of those 2..at PC/Butler to be safe
 

bac2therac

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I'm curious about UCLA. Even if they get smoked in their finale @ ASU and get bounced early in P12 tourney, they could potentially still be P12 regular season cochamps. I wonder if the committee would give any weight to that as to their at large chances. I wonder if any P5 conference regular season co-champ has ever not gotten a bid.

Washington 2012..but UCLA has better wins and the conference profile is higher than in 2012

http://sportspressnw.com/2114305/2012/huskies-hosed-or-did-they-earn-an-ncaa-snub
 

G- RUnit

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UCLA predicted two weeks ago. No chance St. Louis certainly in conversation.
 

bac2therac

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Rhode Island loses at home to St Louis. They can still get if they beat Dayton at home but todays loss means they cannot sustain a Dayton loss as well. Looks like even if a trip to A10 finals they would be less than 50/50

Richmond has solidly gained seperation from them as the A10's next likely to get get an at large
 

bac2therac

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Wichita State currently my last team because of Cincinnati's loss down 37-24 to SMU. Would knock them out with a loss
 
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bac2therac

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Wichita State rallies from 24 down to avoid a damaging loss. Still in for now but nowhere near a lock
 

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Stanford looks like they will beat Colorado. This will move them off the last 4 in line and send either Xavier or Rutgers there in my next update which won't come til late Monday night
 

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Did a lot of research, comparing, and subtracting the NCAA tournament results from the overall last year's records and NET in 2018-19 and wrote down how each team got in and resume, and how they seeded every team. I definitely see patterns in teams that got eliminated early, who won games in the tourny, and what teams to avoid picking.

Final 4 Teams were 29-3 Virginia Q1(12-3)/2(4-0) 16-3, 26-6 Texas Tech Q1(8-5)/2(8-0) 16-5, 28-6 MSU Q1(13-2)/2(6-3) 19-5, and 25-9 Auburn Q1(5-7)/2(12-2) 17-9

Elite 8 Teams 29-5 Duke Q1(11-4)/2(6-1) 17-5, 30-3 Gonzaga Q1(4-3)/2(6-0) 10-3, 27-6 Kentucky Q1(10-5)/2(6-1) 16-6, and 23-9 Purdue Q1(7-7)/2(9-1) 16-8.

The teams that had most Q1/Q2 and win% in those Q1/2 advanced in those games- Va 19(.842), TTU 21(.762), MSU 24(.792), Auburn 26(.653). Duke 22(.772), Gonzaga 13(.769), Kentucky 22(.727), Purdue 24(.667)

Sweet 16- UNC 22(16-6), Tenn 19(14-5), Michigan 25(19-6), Houston 20(17-3), LSU 22(16-6), FSU 20(14-6), Va. Tech 19(11-8), and 12 Oregon 16(7-9) beat 13 UC-Irvine 5(2-3), said more about the weaknesses of the 4(Kansas St 14-8) and 5 Seed(Wisconsin 15-10) they beat.

Seed 1-6 in each bracket each had 22 wins and a combine 11 Q1/2 wins, except Buffalo 30-3 got an auto bid with a combined 9 games(7-2) Q1/2. Seeds 7-11 are the mish-mosh of teams of auto bids, at-large and first four 11 seeds.

Only 1 7 Seed won(1-4)
W Auto 26-4 Wofford 13(Q1 3-4/Q2 6-0) 9-4, 0
At-large 20-13 Louisville 21(Q1 4-11/Q2 5-1) 9-12, 1Q3 loss
At large 29-4 Nevada 10(Q1 1-1/Q2 7-1) 8-2, 2Q3 losses
Auto 28-6 Cincinnati 18(Q1 5-4/Q2 8-1) 13-5, 1Q4 loss

All 4 8 seeds lost(0-4)
At-large 25-7 VCU 9(Q1 2-2/Q2 3-2) 5-4, 3 Q3 losses
At-large 20-13 Syracuse 17(Q1 3-9/Q2 3-2) 6-11, 2 Q3 losses
At-Large 20-12 Ole Miss 19(Q1 4-10/Q2 3-2) 7-12
Auto 27-6 Utah St. 10(Q1 3-2/Q2 2-3) 5-5, 1 Q3 loss

9 seeds(4-4)
At-large 26-8 Washington 17(Q1 2-4/Q2 8-3) 10-7, 1 Q3 loss
At-large 23-8 UCF 15(Q1 2-5/Q2 6-2) 8-7, 1 Q3 loss
At-large 19-13 Baylor 22(Q1 4-9, Q2 8-1) 12-10, 1Q3, 2Q4 loss
At-large 19-13 Oklahoma 22(Q1 4-10/Q2 6-2) 10-12, Q3 9-1, 0 Q4

10 seeds(3-4)
L At-large 20-13 Seton Hall 25(Q1 7-8, Q2 7-3) 14-11, 2 Q3 losses
At-large 22-11 Iowa 21(Q1 4-10/Q2 7-0) 11-10, 1 Q3 loss
At-large 21-13 Minnesota 24(Q1 5-10/Q2 7-2) 12-12, 1 Q3 loss
At-large 19-15 Florida 21(Q1 4-12/Q2 4-1) 8-13, 2 Q3 losses

11 seeds(3-6)
W At large 19-14 Ohio St 22(Q1 4-10/Q2 5-3) 9-13, 1 Q3 loss
L Auto 22-11 St. Mary's 14(Q1 2-6/Q2 3-3) 5-9,2 Q3 loss
Play-in W A-l 26-6 Belmont 8(Q1 2-2/Q2 3-1) 5-3, 2 Q3 loss
Play-in L A-l 23-9 Temple 16(Q1 2-6/Q2 6-2) 8-8, 1 Q3 loss
Play-in W A-l 22-10 Ariz St. 17(Q1 3-3/Q2 8-3) 11-6, 2 Q3, 2 Q4 losses
Play-in L A-l 21-12 St. John's 20(Q1 5-7/Q2 5-3) 10-10, 2 Q3 losses

Only other upsets were
12 Seed 25-6 Liberty 6(3-3) over 5 23-10 Miss St 22(12-10)
12 Seed 25-4 Murray St. 6(2-4) over 5 24-8 Marquette 24(16-8)
That was more Ja Morant than anything.

There is my bracket analysis from 2018-19, hopefully everyone does better in their brackets and maybe predicting the field from this. We will see when all the games are played.

The biggest question marks aren't seed 9-11, but Louisville, VCU, Syracuse and Ole Miss to me, how they were seeded so high. Besides the 20 wins mark and 25 for VCU. Shows why they lost round of 64.

Louisville Q1 wins vs MSU(F4), @SHU(64), @UNC(16), @Va. Tech(16)
VCU Q1 wins @Texas, @Dayton 2 NIT teams???
Syracuse Q1 @OSU(32), @Duke(E8), vs Louisville(64)
Ole Miss Q1 N Baylor(32), vs Auburn(F4), Miss St.(64), @Auburn(F4)

VCU NET 34 the biggest mystery how they got in.
 
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bac2therac

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VCU was regular A10 champ at 16-2 and strong net of 34 and 25 wins. Yes light on the wins but remember last years bubble was weaker than this one. Had no issue wiht them going

key stat that the committe loves...non conference sos of 2.
 
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