With our losses mounting and Maryland @ home, Purdue on the road we may well be close to the coaches thoughts on where we would end up. Even though we have had a breakthrough season, ironic how it may end up.
Pre-season #12?
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I would say if we finish 10th or lower it is disappointing. Especially since the whole mantra was we were picked 12th and we are better than that . Well 10th or 11th ain’t much better
Yesterday was not a 12th place performance, iowa on the road was not a 12 place performance. We are closer than we think we are. Need to play full games. That obviously is our biggest struggle. For some reason it takes us a half to wake up.
But at some point you have to win the games. Northwestern has had a bunch of "not 14th place" performances... but they're still in 14th place. They lost by 5 vs. MSU, by 4 @Indiana, by 4 @Illinois, by 3 vs. Purdue, by 4 @Rutgers, by 9 @Maryland.... but they still have just 1 conference win.
Like I said if we finish 10th or below it is very disappointing . And we would have extended a coach off a 10th place finish. It makes no sense . You play the games , you keep score, you win or you lose .
You are what your record says you are.
The clown shoes should be ordered in bulk for fans. The league this year isn't the ACC, the SEC or Big East. Finishing 10th (from what some fans were told at the start of the year) would mean there's no chance for the NCAAs). Obviously that is 100% wrong today.
There are also tiebreakers and while 5 teams could finish with 12 wins and tied for 2nd, it would be frankly stupid to say that based on a completely irrelevant tiebreaker for the conference tournament, that a fan base would say they finished 7th instead of tied for 2nd.
If RU finishes 10th and makes the NCAAs, it would be because the league was challenging and the best that year. 2 years ago at MSG, Nebraska finished tied for 3rd and was a top 4 seed with a double bye in the B1G tournament......and because the league was weak that year, they didn't make the NCAAs and weren't frankly close, because their wins were close in league and losses were mostly non competitive games.....and they proceeded to get blown out that Saturday afternoon, with a double bye, which cemented that fact...while finishing 4 games or more over .500 in league play.
8th through 10th this year would not be the same as 8th through 10th some other years.
There are also tiebreakers and while 5 teams could finish with 12 wins and tied for 2nd, it would be frankly stupid to say that based on a completely irrelevant tiebreaker for the conference tournament, that a fan base would say they finished 7th instead of tied for 2nd.
If RU finishes 10th and makes the NCAAs, it would be because the league was challenging and the best that year. 2 years ago at MSG, Nebraska finished tied for 3rd and was a top 4 seed with a double bye in the B1G tournament......and because the league was weak that year, they didn't make the NCAAs and weren't frankly close, because their wins were close in league and losses were mostly non competitive games.....and they proceeded to get blown out that Saturday afternoon, with a double bye, which cemented that fact...while finishing 4 games or more over .500 in league play.
8th through 10th this year would not be the same as 8th through 10th some other years.
If we finish 10th then the preseason 12 is right on target and we have been mouthing off all year about it looking like ***holes
This team needs to get it's head out of it's *** and play. I give them 0 credit for the second half because of how they played in the first. None. PSU had the guy who controls their offense out. This wasn't a game to lose. We are pathetic right now. Absolutely pathetic team.
This team needs to get it's head out of it's *** and play. I give them 0 credit for the second half because of how they played in the first. None. PSU had the guy who controls their offense out. This wasn't a game to lose. We are pathetic right now. Absolutely pathetic team.
That Nebraska team tied for 4th in the conference with a 13-5 record and had 22 wins overall, but 19 of their 22 wins were in Quad 3 and 4 which is stunning to consider. This Rutgers teams already has more than twice as many Q1 and Q2 wins combined as that Nebraska team. It's just a much tougher league.
I think this season is the best thing for this program and it's progress short and long term.
I wouldn't equate this to 2005 or 2006 in football, because in a way, that was different....BUT I believe the growth of the football program was fueled by RUs improvement and was mixed with the removal of Virginia Tech, Miami, BC from the Big East.
In this hoops rebuild, at least for this year and the foreseeable future, the B1G is going to be a strong league. It will flush out whatever holes are in your current roster and what's needed for recruiting. There's no way to not know after a 20 to 22 game schedule vs B1G rosters, whether the program is NCAA caliber or not.
I wouldn't equate this to 2005 or 2006 in football, because in a way, that was different....BUT I believe the growth of the football program was fueled by RUs improvement and was mixed with the removal of Virginia Tech, Miami, BC from the Big East.
In this hoops rebuild, at least for this year and the foreseeable future, the B1G is going to be a strong league. It will flush out whatever holes are in your current roster and what's needed for recruiting. There's no way to not know after a 20 to 22 game schedule vs B1G rosters, whether the program is NCAA caliber or not.
ummmm no. right on target for 12th would mean we finish 12th. maybe it is close or close enough but still not right on target.
to compound on what jersey seahawk said if we go 1-1 we basically lock ourselves into 6 thru 8. if we could somehow go 2-0 we could we lock ourselves in for 2 thru 6. Even if we go 0-2 we probably end up 7-9... All great seasons.
For many reasons this has been a hugely successful season for rutgers mens basketball. if you cant see that then you are delusional. The problem with delusional people is they have opinions too. Opinions do not have to bebased on reality or have any context to them. they are just opinions. However based on context and reality some opinions can be wrong regardless of what people say about them.
The really good part about our season is we have at least 3 game left
The really good part about our season is we have at least 3 game left
If we were picked to finish 12 and we finish 10, it's nothing to celebrate.
I'll never forget when Bob Wenzel (another coach that too many people still believe walks on water) claimed in 1994 that "seeding (for the Atlantic 10 Tournament) is just a numerical way of ordering teams."
Let's lay it out there. For all the fun moments there have been, if this team finishes 9-11 it's only +2 over last season.
We would have made a bigger jump last year (from 3-15 to 7-13).
Let's lay it out there. For all the fun moments there have been, if this team finishes 9-11 it's only +2 over last season.
We would have made a bigger jump last year (from 3-15 to 7-13).
We win 1 of 2, we will not finish lower than 10th, Minnesota and Purdue is at 10 losses, Minnesota has 2 road games @ Wisconsin and @ Indiana and isn't winning both and Purdue has @Iowa and us. If we beat them, we finish ahead of them. Indiana, 8-8 B1G, has a tough 4 game stretch, @Purdue and @ Illinois could put Indiana at 10 losses and H against Minnesota and Wisconsin, lose 1 and they are at 11 losses. Puts us no lower than 9th.
The level of play on the road is more competitive (and actually watchable) this season. Unfortunately the measure is wins and losses. Often wonder if Rutgers playing half their league games in the bandbox RAC and small crowds (8K tops) works against us at huge unfriendly road venues.
Wenzel? He had one really good season here and one great conference tournament . He’s a better broadcaster than he was rutgers coach
What other coach walks on water here? Schiano?
I like Pikiell but I know he’s got flaws. Some posters are ready to canonize the guy.
What’s really sad is that I would have been happy if you told me at the beginning of the season that this team would make the NIT. Now, that the team has teased us, partially due to the weaker early schedule, lack of improvement, and potential season-ending tailspin, I wound’t be excited to be in the NIT at all...not one bit.
Ash cathem your post is more pathetic than the team. Look at how we have played the entire year. We have been super competitive in 90% of our games. We are super close to being a top 20 team. We all knew going in our offense was going to be the Achilles heal. The season may not end the way we were hoping after our start but we are far from pathetic. I don't think too many teams would be glad to be playing us in Big tournament
On paper, yes. However, the B1G is so much stronger this season than last season.
There is a segment of this fan base on this board that is not only ok with mediocrity, but considers mediocrity a standard of excellence . It’s a small but vocal group
It's not accepting mediocrity, you have to allow the majority of his recruits become Upperclassmen for the first time and see how his teams perform. If the team fails next year, then rip his mediocrity. He still only has 2 Srs. and 2 Jrs, and 2 of them are 1 yr players from other schools, a 2 yr juco, and 1 3 yr junior. Next year he will have 2 Sr., 4 and 2 yr., and 5 Jrs.,, 3 3 yrs. And 2 4 yr.. That's what you need to win consistently, if you're not recruiting top 100 talent is an upperclassmen heavy team. Only 2 teams in the top 30 NET, that has no top 100 talent SD St and Dayton. and they both have 6 upperclassmen in their top 7 rotation.
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Experience can only take a team so far in a power conference.Rutgers shooting woes will still be there next year unless some recruits are brought in during the spring signing period.Lets also not forget the road woes have been a decades problem area and not a recent occurrence.