Please dont schedule 19 home games next year

bac2therac

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So they dont rely on the RAC to bail them out which they did this year
 

bac2therac

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And i dont care if they lose early

Do people see how many road/neutral games the power 5 schools are playing

Long term it helps
 

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The teams that you couldn’t beat in a true road game later in the year, you have a much better chance of beating early in the year on a neutral court.

Totally agree with some big early season tournament opportunities.
 

ScarletDave

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Not sure why someone thinks that 16-12 instead of 18-10 or whatever gives you a better shot at the tournament
 
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bac2therac

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Not sure why someone thinks that 16-12 instead of 18-10 or whatever gives you a better shot at the tournament


because Q4 home wins are meaningless and actual Q1 and 2 losses help the sos and the net

the Umass series is worthless and pointless

not to mention teaches the team to respond on the road and not pick up bad habits playing Bumblee State on your home floor
 

flyrradio

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In fairness, with the initial goal of making the NIT, it was probably important to rack up wins..but yes at least 1 or 2 road or neutral games in the non-conference season.
 

ILikePike

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I agree but we did have our chances earlier this year against Pitt and St. Bonnies and we blew it. If we're being honest both of those teams suck and if we just split there we're in pretty good shape right now.
 

Local Shill

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Not sure why someone thinks that 16-12 instead of 18-10 or whatever gives you a better shot at the tournament
Sounds about right from the guy who said after Sunday’s game that Geo should have punched a ref in the face. Have you paid any attention to how the committee actually chooses teams for the NCAA tournament?
 
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RUfromSoCal?

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for those asking why...

Pike had a strategy early on to get wins...... which was good......

now it's time to play neutral-site early-season "tournaments"....
 

bac2therac

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I agree but we did have our chances earlier this year against Pitt and St. Bonnies and we blew it. If we're being honest both of those teams suck and if we just split there we're in pretty good shape right now.


most schools play more than 1 road game and 1 neutral site game

this will be an experienced program if Hobbs isnt getting this team in 2 or 3 game neutral site tourneys he is not doing his job, if Pike doesnt want to do them, then he is wrong
 

ru_kidding_me2

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Need to bring in shooters. Last in conference in 3 point shooting and foul shooting equals losses. 2 early season neutral site losses will not make up for losing just about if not all your conference road games and finishing bottom 4 in league.
 

bac2therac

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what I am also getting at his beyond wins and losses..its about building a team and challenging them rather than falling back on the RAC helping you beat a pathetic Bryant by a point when they had a chance for a winning shot at the end
 

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most schools play more than 1 road game and 1 neutral site game

this will be an experienced program if Hobbs isnt getting this team in 2 or 3 game neutral site tourneys he is not doing his job, if Pike doesnt want to do them, then he is wrong
Totally agree. Need a neutral site 2 or 3 game tourney and now that we have hit the national radar , I think we will finally be invited . Pike was trying to get the winning record monkey off the program’s back and now he should challenge the team because they will be challenged again as the Big 10 I’ll be very good next year.
 
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Mr. Magoo1

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You test the team early so know what it takes to win later in the season. He’s more interested in Having a good record than developing the team. We’re 30 games in and this team still has no idea that it takes 40 minutes of intense play to win a road game. All the Niagara and Caldwell etc bs home games are biting us in the *** now.
 

ru_kidding_me2

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You test the team early so know what it takes to win later in the season. He’s more interested in Having a good record than developing the team. We’re 30 games in and this team still has no idea that it takes 40 minutes of intense play to win a road game. All the Niagara and Caldwell etc bs home games are biting us in the *** now.

being low percentage shooters is what is biting them in the ***. They are not stupid, they know what it takes to win, they are just bad shooters and go into god awful scoring droughts on a regular basis. When the shots fall they look like world beaters, but the shots do not fall at a consistent enough clip.
 

bac2therac

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You test the team early so know what it takes to win later in the season. He’s more interested in Having a good record than developing the team. We’re 30 games in and this team still has no idea that it takes 40 minutes of intense play to win a road game. All the Niagara and Caldwell etc bs home games are biting us in the *** now.


and if you go back to the St Bonnies...they hit all those 3s went up 34-15...our fans chalked it up to a hot shooting night..well how many ******* nights do our opponents have hot shooting nights..newsflash,its not them..its us

in that game RU came back and I think got it down to 3 points maybe with 4-5 minutes left and fell short despite an excellent 2nd half. If this happened a couple of times its understandable but this is outrageous....its every freaking single road game...what are they doing wrong....its as if Pike will not shake up the routine
 
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DHajekRC84

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and if you go back to the St Bonnies...they hit all those 3s went up 34-15...our fans chalked it up to a hot shooting night..well how many ****ing nights do our opponents have hot shooting nights..newsflash,its not them..its us

in that game RU came back and I think got it down to 3 points maybe with 4-5 minutes left and fell short despite an excellent 2nd half. If this happened a couple of times its understandable but this is outrageous....its every freaking single road game...what are they doing wrong....its as if Pike will not shake up the routine
I think I just gave you 4 likes in 1 short thread.
 
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bac2therac

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its very apparent that this team need some sort of elixir on the road, its as if they are smoking something on the bus ride over..and yes I am joking but thats what it seems like

maybe its good they had tears tonight, I want losing to hurt, if they are not crying then they will keep doing the same thing
 

King of S

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Pike needs to realize that early season road games can only help in the long run. NCAA committee has no respect for a team playing 9 cupcakes at home to start the season.
 

RU-ROCS

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We should now be attractive enough to get into some early season tournaments. Most good programs play neutral site games, not true road games early. That would definitely help this team to develop.
 

NiTeKnight

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because Q4 home wins are meaningless and actual Q1 and 2 losses help the sos and the net

the Umass series is worthless and pointless

not to mention teaches the team to respond on the road and not pick up bad habits playing Bumblee State on your home floor
Maybe they could play Bumblee State on the road.
 

bac2therac

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De Paul was a Q1 game on the road this year, so i would even take them
 

brookdale-soda

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You test the team early so know what it takes to win later in the season. He’s more interested in Having a good record than developing the team. We’re 30 games in and this team still has no idea that it takes 40 minutes of intense play to win a road game. All the Niagara and Caldwell etc bs home games are biting us in the *** now.
In the grand scheme, hes building a program. These home wins have served a purpose, especially if we can use the RAC to recruit. Idbefine wheening us off the RAC. Slowly
 

King of S

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In the grand scheme, hes building a program. These home wins have served a purpose, especially if we can use the RAC to recruit. Idbefine wheening us off the RAC. Slowly
But NCAA committee see right through a padded home schedule.
 

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Would playing some of the other NJ teams (NJIT, Rider, St Peters) at a neutral site (Trenton or AC) help at all with the neutral site / road record?

Move the Garden state classic to AC or Trenton maybe as a neutral site. Maybe even the Izod center if it is still operational.

Maybe we schedule Pike's old team (Stonybrook) at a neutral site (maybe MSG as part of a double header).
 

King of S

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Would playing some of the other NJ teams (NJIT, Rider, St Peters) at a neutral site (Trenton or AC) help at all with the neutral site / road record?

Move the Garden state classic to AC or Trenton maybe as a neutral site. Maybe even the Izod center if it is still operational.

Maybe we schedule Pike's old team (Stonybrook) at a neutral site (maybe MSG as part of a double header).
Why all neutral sites? Pike needs to grow a set and play some real road games.
 

flyrradio

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The schedule is fine. Just win more games.

Disagree. There's more NET leeway with Q1 wins on the road (1-75 counts) or even neutral (1-50 counts). Try and schedule 1 or 2 of those (which a pre-season tournament does). The fluctuation of the NET for home wins is far thinner.

The NET was adjusted this way to encourage teams to go out and play a couple of games away from home.
 
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