For How Many Games Should Young Be Suspended

[Racpack]

This is a test for the Athletic Department

Do we hold our players accountable and provide counseling or is he permitted to play after a slap on the wrist? What's more important winning a game or providing a life changing lesson?

 

[RU848789]

wrong thread...

 

[RUby RED]

Use other examples from past Big Ten teams as our template. No need to get cute with it

 

[Tango Two]

However many Pikiell feels is appropriate

 

[RRRRUUUU]

Slap on the wrist. Let’s win for once.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

This is a test for the Athletic Department

Do we hold our players accountable and provide counseling or is he permitted to play after a slap on the wrist? What's more important winning a game or providing a life changing lesson?

He had a few pops and drank. No one got hurt, he blew a stop sign. Suspending him for 1 game or 3 isnt gonna change his life. Relax

 

[Plum Street]

This is a test for the Athletic Department

Do we hold our players accountable and provide counseling or is he permitted to play after a slap on the wrist? What's more important winning a game or providing a life changing lesson?

No wonder why we haven’t been to the tournament in years . Winning and getting to the tournament. Easy answer . Is this a joke question ?

 

[RU848789]

How can anyone comment on this without knowing all of the relevant details (vs. rumors)? I'll let Coach and Hobbs decide.

 

[BigEastPhil]

He won’t play vs northwestern in my opinion.

 

[ScarletDave]

I agree with the “let’s win for once” attitude. Do you think anyone cared about Simpson’s DUI after the buzzer sounded at the Garden. Will you hear about it on BTN the rest of the year. No.

 

[RU85inFla]

Do some research. It’s a one game suspension.

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

30 seconds............. now go win!

 

[Racpack]

Been a season ticket holder for over ten years. Love the team. However, a DUI is very serious. Many people have been killed by drunk drivers. Helping Young understand the seriousness of the offense is more important than winning any game. I hope that no one has to experience a family member or friend injured or killed by a drunken driver. The impact lasts a lifetime.

 

[bac2therac]

as many as the teammates vote for

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If he had DWI he should be done for the season
1. I assume players are supposed to be dry during the season
2. He broke the law and drove drunk

anything short of 5 games will leave me very disappointed.

 

[fischy5000]

If he had DWI he should be done for the season
1. I assume players are supposed to be dry during the season
2. He broke the law and drove drunk

anything short of 5 games will leave me very disappointed.

Re: #1, that def was not a policy when I was connected to the team.

 

[richthedentist]

Simpson only got 1 game for Michigan

 

[RW90]

I said it in another thread, I don't know how Pike runs the ship, but I can tell you firsthand that players on that '91 team were not dry.

As to Young, Pike and Hobbs need to send a clear message that DUI is not tolerated.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Kratch said in that Sports Insider thing that current RU athletic policy calls for no more that 10% of team's games for a SECOND OFFENSE so assuming this is his first offense, it's not going to be very long it seems. That said, I'd be surprised if he plays against Northwestern at home on Sunday because we SHOULDN'T need him and it would give the appearance of not completely brushing it under the carpet.

 

[Hamilton's Cannon]

Whatever they decide is firm but fair, ratchet it up by 1 or 2. Kid appears very immature- needs a big cup of grow the heck up. Set the tone for him and the future of the program. That is what Schiano did — be more than firm. Let the team know that crap is unacceptable. Hence we had very few incidents under Greg 1.0.

 

[1coastalknight]

I'm hoping when he does come back its with a good attitude and a desire to finish the season on a positive note for himself and his teammates. I wish him the best and am willing to fully support him.

 

[BigEastPhil]

Kratch said in that Sports Insider thing that current RU athletic policy calls for no more that 10% of team's games for a SECOND OFFENSE so assuming this is his first offense, it's not going to be very long it seems. That said, I'd be surprised if he plays against Northwestern at home on Sunday because we SHOULDN'T need him and it would give the appearance of not completely brushing it under the carpet.

We will need him for NW. Don't take them lightly. And in my opinion,he will not play against NW.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

We will need him for NW. Don't take them lightly. And in my opinion,he will not play against NW.

Giving Myles and Shaq the 5, you now have 6 players for 160 minutes. 26.7 per guy. That is more minutes than I want to see a few of our guys playing.

It may be time to dust of and see what a certain player has.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

If he had DWI he should be done for the season
1. I assume players are supposed to be dry during the season
2. He broke the law and drove drunk

anything short of 5 games will leave me very disappointed.

You're living in a fantasy world of college sports. 18 to 23 year old kids drink, drugs and do other things 24-7-365. I suggest reading up on Mark Dantonio and what took place at MSU and led to his "retirement" today.

I am expecting 2 games, there would be no major college football programs in any power 5 conferences, if the selection of discipline follows this mindset of 5 games to missing the season.

Michigan, as snobbish and arrogant, sat their player for 1 game and he returned. This is the harsh reality of where programs are today. 2 games is more than fine.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

You're living in a fantasy world of college sports. 18 to 23 year old kids drink, drugs and do other things 24-7-365. I suggest reading up on Mark Dantonio and what took place at MSU and led to his "retirement" today.

I am expecting 2 games, there would be no major college football programs in any power 5 conferences, if the selection of discipline follows this mindset of 5 games to missing the season.

Michigan, as snobbish and arrogant, sat their player for 1 game and he returned. This is the harsh reality of where programs are today. 2 games is more than fine.

that is a shame then.......
and there are D1 college programs that expect players to be dry during the season and there are student athletes that are. I know this for fact.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

that is a shame then.......
and there are D1 college programs that expect players to be dry during the season and there are student athletes that are. I know this for fact.

BYU maybe.

 

[bac2therac]

that is a shame then.......
and there are D1 college programs that expect players to be dry during the season and there are student athletes that are. I know this for fact.

times have changed...but I bet you there are some players who dont or rarely drink and are 100% focused...still even if you drink, as a player you have a lot of stakes, its not just an avg student drinking and driving...you are letting down all your teammates, coaching staff and your school

 

[Russ Wood]

that is a shame then.......
and there are D1 college programs that expect players to be dry during the season and there are student athletes that are. I know this for fact.

BYU?

 

[RU848789]

You're living in a fantasy world of college sports. 18 to 23 year old kids drink, drugs and do other things 24-7-365. I suggest reading up on Mark Dantonio and what took place at MSU and led to his "retirement" today.

I am expecting 2 games, there would be no major college football programs in any power 5 conferences, if the selection of discipline follows this mindset of 5 games to missing the season.

Michigan, as snobbish and arrogant, sat their player for 1 game and he returned. This is the harsh reality of where programs are today. 2 games is more than fine.

Well said. It might also be different if he were under age, but he's a 22-year old adult, who's more than allowed to drink (the concept of a "dry" team is just ridiculous), but who made a dumb decision by drinking and driving.

Given the DWI and the careless/wreckless driving and given that RU is not the kind of school, like UM, to sweep this under the rug with a 1-game suspension, I expect it to be 2 games. Hopefully this young man (never actually liked calling them kids) learns a good lesson here.

Also, as an aside, how many people out there have been suspended from their jobs for getting a DWI or other traffic offenses? That's what I thought.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...-arrest-still-deciding-suspension-length.html

 

[bac2therac]

Well said. It might also be different if he were under age, but he's a 22-year old adult, who's more than allowed to drink (the concept of a "dry" team is just ridiculous), but who made a dumb decision by drinking and driving.

Given the DWI and the careless/wreckless driving and given that RU is not the kind of school, like UM, to sweep this under the rug with a 1-game suspension, I expect it to be 2 games. Hopefully this young man (never actually liked calling them kids) learns a good lesson here.

Also, as an aside, how many people out there have been suspended from their jobs for getting a DWI or other traffic offenses? That's what I thought.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...-arrest-still-deciding-suspension-length.html

how many people are getting their education, room and board paid for by their boss

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Would this be an issue at Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina? Maybe a one game suspension at those sports factories at the most. Drunk drivers do murder people every day so it is serious. One game isn’t enough , no matter how much I want us to get to the NCAAs, but waiting until it goes through the courts is way too long. I will go with three games.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Let’s not forget members of our football team got injured badly after a game by a drunk driver.

we can’t slap on the wrist here.

the Flood years made me take the R magnet off my car. Our program has to expect more from our athletes.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Let’s not forget members of our football team got injured badly after a game by a drunk driver.

we can’t slap on the wrist here.

the Flood years made me take the R magnet off my car. Our program has to expect more from our athletes.

Given your takes in this thread I find it ironic that you think abstaining from any mood altering substances is a realistic thing and took R magnets off your car during Flood era but you didn’t change your FIG handle.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

It is important not to overreact. He did something dumb but at the end of the day no one got hurt. He is very lucky that no one got hurt. Punish him for a couple games put him on probation. Teach him a lesson. Don't take away the best hing that he has going in his life. This is obviously a dream of his and it should not be taken away for a stupid mistake. A mistake that unfortunately many many people make at all different ages and never get caught or do get caught and keep their jobs etc....

For all the people who want him done for the year, would you want the same treatment given to your son or daughter in the same situation?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

For all the people who want him done for the year, would you want the same treatment given to your son or daughter in the same situation?

Without hesitation.

 

[RUJMM78]

Miss behavior has consequences as a student athlete regardless of their age.It could be missing class or something more serious like a DWI.Pikiell must hold players accountable and show no favoritism.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Without hesitation.

Some of you people are ******* ridiculous and the funny part? When you guys were growing up (if you're 55+ which I assume is the case) you used to drive around in your cars while drinking and if pulled over the police would give you a ride home. Get over yourselves, kid ****** up. Suspend him one game, let him know he's got a tight leash and be done with it.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I don't want the penalty to be based on what other schools do......

Pemsl Iowa 2 games
Cook UNLV 13 games
Missouri 1 game and they have had 3 different players
College FB usually 1 game
NFL 2 games

 

[BillyC80]

Two-game suspension seems right — he should not play at our next home game.

If I’m reading the details correctly, he was pulled over on campus, by campus police at 2am on a Sat nite/Sun morning. A 22 year-old college student drinking (or smoking weed) on a Sat nite is ok, but he should not have been driving.

The details matter. Was he getting high on a Saturday nite and was just driving on campus to get home? Was he going 5 mph on campus and rolled thru a stop sign at 2am when no one was out on the streets? Still illegal, but how egregious?

Two separate issues — one legal and one team rules. The legal one will take care of itself. If the hypothetical I described is close to reality, and it was his first offense of any kind, then a 2-game suspension by the team seems fair.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Some of you guys are nuts. If Pikes, Hobbs, and Jacob’s teammates feel 1 game is enough THEN SO SHOULD YOU. Period. Same with 2, 3, or whatever THEY decide.