Top 25: Rutgers falls to 34

bac2therac

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I think Houston, Wichita State and Rutgers will be out

Creighton, Arizona, and Ohio State back in

I predict RU is 30
 

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9 Maryland
12 Seton Hall
16 Michigan State
17 Iowa
20 Illinois
22 Penn State
28 Ohio State
34 Rutgers
36 Stephen F Austin
37 (tie) Michigan
 
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greenknight

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It’s nice that Rutgers beats Purdue in basketball and loses a close game to Michigan and that week performance loses 9 spots in the rankings. Trying to think of any other team in the Power 5 where such results would equate to the same movement. Cant
You cant beat the teams you need to beat you do not deserve to be ranked especially when you cannot beat a team on the road when it was essentially a home game

Players need to show up EVERY game to play. You cant have a big game one day and pull a disappearing act the next game. Taking I'll advise shots did us in Saturday.
 

bac2therac

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???? when teams are barely in at 25 and lose to an unranked team who only has 1 vote this week, yeah you are going to fall, RU certainly did not look like a top 25 school on the big stage if voters were watching

Do you think RU is a top 25 team? What school ranked in the top 25 doesnt belong? I would say Houston but I would put Ohio State over them. Don't really see why people are wowing about this
 
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goru7

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9 Maryland
12 Seton Hall
16 Michigan State
17 Iowa
20 Illinois
22 Penn State
28 Ohio State
34 Rutgers
36 Stephen F Austin
37 (tie) Michigan
Bad job AP voters. We beat Purdue and lost to Michigan. 9 ranked teams lost , 2 at home by double digits to unranked teams , and only one to another ranked team., Kentucky. Rutgers got unfairly dropped that low considering Michigan State lost to a depleted Wisconsin and we lost to Michigan and Both those teams are around even in all the metrics and Michigan gets a vote and Wisconsin does not . They only dropped all other teams only down 2 or 3 spots and we dropped 9. F———ing Ridiculous. Wichita State only other team they dropped out and the left Houston in . If you were top 20, the biggest drop was 3, top21-25, the drop was 4 or more. Inconsistent voting since the teams lost to their conference mates in close games except for Seton Hall And Villanova .
 

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agree with the comments above

Michigan is having a down year and we were favored to win but didn't.

For voters who watched they saw a team who was over matched by Michigan's inside size.

For voters not watching they saw a team that is 2-2 in the last 4 and can't win outside of their home stadium.

hate to say it but with voters they look at winning streaks and wins over top 25 teams mostly. That benefits the smaller conferences where you can win 5, 6, or 7 games in a row against unranked opponents. you also had 2 unranked Big East teams win against top 10 teams.

right now this team is a 9 or 10 seed in the NCAAs
 
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It’s nice that Rutgers beats Purdue in basketball and loses a close game to Michigan and that week performance loses 9 spots in the rankings. Trying to think of any other team in the Power 5 where such results would equate to the same movement. Cant
Teams with a winning reputation established over years will always drop slower than teams with losing reputations. Just human nature in voting.
 

goru7

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You cant beat the teams you need to beat you do not deserve to be ranked especially when you cannot beat a team on the road when it was essentially a home game

Players need to show up EVERY game to play. You cant have a big game one day and pull a disappearing act the next game. Taking I'll advise shots did us in Saturday.
Tell that to Seton Hall and Villanova that got smoked at home to unranked teams. The only thing unforgivable would be losing at home to unranked teams then you should be punished but they only moved 2 spots down. We moved 9 spots down after a win against Purdue and a close loss to Michigan . That is horseshit Stick up for your damn team. We didn’t play well but still almost won the game . We have enough body of work with wins over Seton Hall(blowout), Penn State( ranked and by double digits, Wisconsin ( by 7) , Indiana ( by 9 and was double digits until layup at end) , Minnesota by 8( that was 13 until 2 late threes in last 20 seconds, and Purdue ( by 7, that got to 3 late). The Purdue game is the only close game in the bunch and when we blew a 14 point lead. The losses since mid December are only to Michigan State by 13 , which was 5 at under 6 minutes to play, Illinois by 3, where we had a lead late, and Iowa by 5, where we had a lead late. All 3 ranked teams within the top 19 , all 3 road games , all competitive , with a chance to win and no blowouts. We got hosed and it is time to stand up for our team. Stop with the 30 years of history that you are bringing into this year. It sucks !!!
 

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Maryland is going to beat us comfortably. We don't deserve to be ranked, but 34 seems like a big drop. Doesn't matter overall though. Just get back in track and win what we should.
 
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Rutgers has been a nobody for decades and now wants to be somebody in national attention.The problem is that Rutgers lacks the cache to sustain a national ranking as compared to other teams with previous success.Losing away from the RAC clearly has drawn the attention of voters and it will remain a problem unless Rutgers wins some road games.Rutgers would need to win 3 straight games to have any remaining chance for a top 25 ranking.My concern is that with the really tough remaining schedule Rutgers could easily fall into the 40-50 range which would impact post season tournament options.
 
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bac2therac

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Bad job AP voters. We beat Purdue and lost to Michigan. 9 ranked teams lost , 2 at home by double digits to unranked teams , and only one to another ranked team., Kentucky. Rutgers got unfairly dropped that low considering Michigan State lost to a depleted Wisconsin and we lost to Michigan and Both those teams are around even in all the metrics and Michigan gets a vote and Wisconsin does not . They only dropped all other teams only down 2 or 3 spots and we dropped 9. F———ing Ridiculous. Wichita State only other team they dropped out and the left Houston in . If you were top 20, the biggest drop was 3, top21-25, the drop was 4 or more. Inconsistent voting since the teams lost to their conference mates in close games except for Seton Hall And Villanova .


Wichita State was 23 last week and fell to 32. RU has lost 2 of their last 4. I dont see the issue here, when you are barely ranked at 25 and lose to an unranked team who only receives one vote, you are going to fall out, simple as that, looking at the schools from 26-33 I see a mix of major schools like Tex Tech who beat WVU and lost to Kansas by a couple and some midmajors who are compiling wins
 

bac2therac

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Tell that to Seton Hall and Villanova that got smoked at home to unranked teams. The only thing unforgivable would be losing at home to unranked teams then you should be punished but they only moved 2 spots down. We moved 9 spots down after a win against Purdue and a close loss to Michigan . That is horseshit Stick up for your damn team. We didn’t play well but still almost won the game . We have enough body of work with wins over Seton Hall(blowout), Penn State( ranked and by double digits, Wisconsin ( by 7) , Indiana ( by 9 and was double digits until layup at end) , Minnesota by 8( that was 13 until 2 late threes in last 20 seconds, and Purdue ( by 7, that got to 3 late). The Purdue game is the only close game in the bunch and when we blew a 14 point lead. The losses since mid December are only to Michigan State by 13 , which was 5 at under 6 minutes to play, Illinois by 3, where we had a lead late, and Iowa by 5, where we had a lead late. All 3 ranked teams within the top 19 , all 3 road games , all competitive , with a chance to win and no blowouts. We got hosed and it is time to stand up for our team. Stop with the 30 years of history that you are bringing into this year. It sucks !!!


because Villanova and Seton Hall are top 25 schools, RU isnt at this point. Those schools built a cushion because they had won a slew of games either in a row or I think in Novas case just a loss here or there.

we are not being hosed...why shouldnt Michigan be ranked then, they beat us fair and square in what was basically a RU home game, plus they beat Gonzaga earlier in the year.
 

Mike from MD

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agree with the comments above

Michigan is having a down year and we were favored to win but didn't.

For voters who watched they saw a team who was over matched by Michigan's inside size.

For voters not watching they saw a team that is 2-2 in the last 4 and can't win outside of their home stadium.

hate to say it but with voters they look at winning streaks and wins over top 25 teams mostly. That benefits the smaller conferences where you can win 5, 6, or 7 games in a row against unranked opponents. you also had 2 unranked Big East teams win against top 10 teams.

right now this team is a 9 or 10 seed in the NCAAs
We're 1 - 5 on the road. That is a bad trend.
 
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Wichita State was 23 last week and fell to 32. RU has lost 2 of their last 4. I dont see the issue here, when you are barely ranked at 25 and lose to an unranked team who only receives one vote, you are going to fall out, simple as that, looking at the schools from 26-33 I see a mix of major schools like Tex Tech who beat WVU and lost to Kansas by a couple and some midmajors who are compiling wins
All you need to know is what Zak57 pointed out, We are tied for 4th in the Big 10, and teams 1,2,3, 5 and 6 are ranked. Guess who is missing. You leave out that since last week we beat Purdue. We didn’t lose 2 games . Okay, only look at losses and ignore wins. You a big fan and you just did it but that doesn’t make it correct. Your argument would hold more weight with me , if we got blown out by any of the teams, which we did not, and if we did not hold leads in any of those games, which we did. We played one of our worst games of the year against Michigan and took 36 more shots and outrebounded them and lost, which was a statistical anomaly , but lost close.
 

bac2therac

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RU is 2-2 in its last 4. We lost to an unranked, why is Michigan not ranked, why is Ohio State not ranked.

win at Maryland and prove they are a top 25 school
 

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It’s nice that Rutgers beats Purdue in basketball and loses a close game to Michigan and that week performance loses 9 spots in the rankings. Trying to think of any other team in the Power 5 where such results would equate to the same movement. Cant

dont worry...it all evens out...
 

goru7

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because Villanova and Seton Hall are top 25 schools, RU isnt at this point. Those schools built a cushion because they had won a slew of games either in a row or I think in Novas case just a loss here or there.

we are not being hosed...why shouldnt Michigan be ranked then, they beat us fair and square in what was basically a RU home game, plus they beat Gonzaga earlier in the year.
Give me a break. If you have any integrity as a voter , dropping Seton Hall and Villanova by only 2 spots for essentially be blown out at home , is criminal and you should have your vote yanked . Michigan was not receiving votes before these last 2 wins against Nebraska and Rutgers and were coming off of 4 losses , so how are you even comparing them to us. What is their conference record, overall record, etc. The poll voters unfairly punished us as compared to most of the other team’s that lost and did not win a game earlier in the week.
 

greenknight

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Pretty impressive that RU is ranked 34 in the entire nation at this point in the season. Who would have ever thought that would be the case before the season started? Props to the team and Coach Pike!
Agreed...we are not quite ready for prime time but closing the gap quickly
 

bac2therac

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Give me a break. If you have any integrity as a voter , dropping Seton Hall and Villanova by only 2 spots for essentially be blown out at home , is criminal and you should have your vote yanked . Michigan was not receiving votes before these last 2 wins against Nebraska and Rutgers and were coming off of 4 losses , so how are you even comparing them to us. What is their conference record, overall record, etc. The poll voters unfairly punished us as compared to most of the other team’s that lost and did not win a game earlier in the week.


nothing is unfair, a school with very little cache for 30 years is not getting the benefit of the doubt that perennial top 25 schools are going to get. Just where do you think that SHU and Nova are suppose to fall to..who should move ahead of them. Seriously..you do realize that the schools behind them also lost this week...Kentucky, Oregon, WVU, Michigan State, Butler, Iowa....name your schools that should be leapfrogging Nova and SHU when most of them went 1-1....As you get further to the 25 spot, those teams are most vulnerable to get knocked when they lose, its a top 25 vote, not a top 40 vote, voters did not think RU was a top 25 school...dont see the issue, they were 25 last week, do you not think that Creighton should be ranked?
 

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It’s nice that Rutgers beats Purdue in basketball and loses a close game to Michigan and that week performance loses 9 spots in the rankings. Trying to think of any other team in the Power 5 where such results would equate to the same movement. Cant
Losing on the weekend always costs more. Last thing they think of when they vote.
 

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All you need to know is what Zak57 pointed out, We are tied for 4th in the Big 10, and teams 1,2,3, 5 and 6 are ranked. Guess who is missing. You leave out that since last week we beat Purdue. We didn’t lose 2 games . Okay, only look at losses and ignore wins. You a big fan and you just did it but that doesn’t make it correct. Your argument would hold more weight with me , if we got blown out by any of the teams, which we did not, and if we did not hold leads in any of those games, which we did. We played one of our worst games of the year against Michigan and took 36 more shots and outrebounded them and lost, which was a statistical anomaly , but lost close.
the B10 schedule is unbalanced so the standings don't mean much yet. After the next 2 weeks they mean more when we play more of the better teams.
 

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People should be more concerned with how we are playing rather than about whether we are ranked or not. We were fortunate to get by Nebraska and were holding on to beat Purdue at home. Michigan played well but it still was not a good loss for us particularly at MSG. The good thing is there are still plenty of opportunities for us enhance our resume but its not going to be easy. We need to play better and then the ranking will take care of itself.
 

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nothing is unfair, a school with very little cache for 30 years is not getting the benefit of the doubt that perennial top 25 schools are going to get. Just where do you think that SHU and Nova are suppose to fall to..who should move ahead of them. Seriously..you do realize that the schools behind them also lost this week...Kentucky, Oregon, WVU, Michigan State, Butler, Iowa....name your schools that should be leapfrogging Nova and SHU when most of them went 1-1....As you get further to the 25 spot, those teams are most vulnerable to get knocked when they lose, its a top 25 vote, not a top 40 vote, voters did not think RU was a top 25 school...dont see the issue, they were 25 last week, do you not think that Creighton should be ranked?

We used up our remaining goodwill built up while going 8-0 in conference and a 10 game win streak.
 
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