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[bac2therac]

those on twitter....this guy is something else

 

[bac2therac]

 

[ScarletDave]

Not worth it, the only loser in an argument with someone ignorant is yourself

 

[bac2therac]

there are more than him out there...literally they are all over twitter. They do not even believe the metrics of the NET and SOS and simply dont even believe the Big 10 is strong this year.

 

[AshCatchEm]

Guy shouldn't breed

 

[bac2therac]

He has Wisconsin ranked at 24 at 11-7

 

[Upstream]

there are more than him out there...literally they are all over twitter. They do not even believe the metrics of the NET and SOS and simply dont even believe the Big 10 is strong this year.

Do you really think that you are going to convince them of anything over Twitter? And does it really matter?

If you want to argue with him for sport, that's up to you. But don't expect to change his mind.

 

[BillyC80]

We have a very “solid showing” on the road to a ranked team — our close loss at IL.

 

[ClassOf02v.2]

Social media arguments like this are nothing more than a waste of time.

 

[bac2therac]

We have a very “solid showing” on the road to a ranked team — our close loss at IL.

he doesnt care, he is oblivious to that one.

also I am almost certain that kenpom is factoring in the caldwell game for sos

 

[ColonelRutgers]

those on twitter....this guy is something else

Pointless to argue now. The ballot was already submitted. We win two this week, otherwise, we'll be out anyway. Plenty of hacks out there. Making enemies out of them won't help us in long run.

 

[bac2therac]

its not so much his ballot but his general dismissal of Rutgers to even be considered this week. I can guarantee you he hasnt even seen a minute of one of our games.

 

[Mikemarc]

there are more than him out there...literally they are all over twitter. They do not even believe the metrics of the NET and SOS and simply dont even believe the Big 10 is strong this year.

who cares? Love the doubters!!

 

[ColonelRutgers]

its not so much his ballot but his general dismissal of Rutgers to even be considered this week. I can guarantee you he hasnt even seen a minute of one of our games.

I like how he claimed you said that Rutgers SCHEDULES based on NET (like as a verb) rather than you just stating a FACT about the schedule (like a noun). Who gives a crap how the schedule is put together. It's the results that matter. The guy basically blew off the responsibility of filling out the ballot so he could make a flight to Vegas or something based on what he said on Twitter when he announced his ballot. Then tries to justify it. Just a douche.

 

[satnom]

he doesnt care, he is oblivious to that one.

also I am almost certain that kenpom is factoring in the caldwell game for sos

You mean he doesn't believe in facts, numbers and science?

Lots of that going around nowadays.

GO RU

 

[bac2therac]

I mean the ncaa has specifically said they use the NET, the quadrant system is based on the net, the sos is included with the net team sheet...Ken Pom and Sagarin do appear in small print at the top of the sheet He is pointing toward weak sos non conference in kenpom yet Texas Tech and Kentucky two schools who have worst Kenpom non conference sos are rated very highly by him. Its likely this guy and all the other New Mexico residents chiming have never seen Rutgers play yet this year.

how about this guy...8 losses...haha RU would be a mortal lock and possibly a 5 seed with just 8 losses. He thinks we play in the Mountain West I guess. I dont think any of these dopes know our NET nitty gritty

 

[CollegeAve]

He is entitled to his opinion. I hope the squad keeps proving people wrong.

 

[BillyC80]

Lol if we only had 8 losses we’d be like 25-8 after going 1-1 in the B1G tourney. Bubble my ***.

 

[bac2therac]

Lol if we only had 8 losses we’d be like 25-8 after going 1-1 in the B1G tourney. Bubble my ***.

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so true...so now he came back and said 10 losses....and 10 losses we are 20-10 and 12-8 with 10 Q1 and Q2 schools..that is also a lock. They seem ignorant to how good the Big 10 is.

 

[AZBlues]

Face it, based on the results of many of our previous seasons, a lot of people in the basketball world who don't have the opportunity to watch this team play are probably thinking "Rutgers??? No way. Can't be.", and some will cherry pick evidence to support their beliefs...And the easiest evidence for them to cherry pick are probably the relatively soft OOC schedule and the current RU 1-4 road record. Beat Iowa.

 

[bac2therac]

Face it, based on the results of many of our previous seasons, a lot of people in the basketball world who don't have the opportunity to watch this team play are probably thinking "Rutgers??? No way. Can't be.", and some will cherry pick evidence to support their beliefs...And the easiest evidence for them to cherry pick are probably the relatively soft OOC schedule and the current RU 1-4 road record. Beat Iowa.

I can agree with this, thats why i keep saying need a road win or two...Nebby sucks plain and simple no one cares. they are 170 or so or whatever. We need to be someone in the top 50 in our 7 road games left

 

[fluoxetine]

Hope that guy's right about the 8 losses.

 

[theRU]

I can agree with this, thats why i keep saying need a road win or two...Nebby sucks plain and simple no one cares. they are 170 or so or whatever. We need to be someone in the top 50 in our 7 road games left

We're gonna beat Iowa, and then Neb

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

Guess non conference wins over SF Austin and Seton Hall don't count cause they're at home?

 

[e5fdny]

Just make fun of his name.

 

[bac2therac]

Guess non conference wins over SF Austin and Seton Hall don't count cause they're at home?

He isnt giving credit for any of our wins because they're all at home

 

[AZBlues]

Guess non conference wins over SF Austin and Seton Hall don't count cause they're at home?

Playing games at the RAC obviously can make things a little more difficult for visiting teams, but some of the doubters who may not be giving us much credit for our out of conference schedule might have one or more of the viewpoints that:

1) SF Austin had an outlier against Duke, hasn't really beaten any other "top" teams and recently lost at home to a 7-12 Texas A&M Corpus Christi team... 2) Seton Hall was at a disadvantage due to losing a top starter in Mamukelashvili a few days before the Rutgers game, and losing Powell in the first half of the Rutgers game. 3) Bryant, Niagara, Drexel, NJIT, UMass, Lafayette, and Caldwell usually won't strike fear into the hearts of typical Big Ten teams. And 4) We lost to OOC Pitt and St. Bonaventure.

I'm not saying they're necessarily right if they believe all of that, but that's how they might look at it.. A simple win on the road against a good team should shut them up though.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

We were also a different team in the first 9 games(6-3), than we are the last 9 games (8-1). I really think the move of Yeboah to the starting lineup, after the first 9 games off the bench, taught the team how to start the games stronger, make rotations work, and they haven't looked back since.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

He does make a point about not winning on the road.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

I am a little perplexed by this in general.

Many ( not all) B1G teams have a high amount of home games but I think RU was not interested or 100% thought they would be in this spot.

I also don't think it can be equated to just playing at the RAC. I do think it comes down to being picked 12th, which means RU was not on any radar for making anyone's NCAA brackets.

The writers or voters in most cases can't rattle off starting 5s of other programs but can know who Marcus Howard is, if a player is carrying a program on it's back with 25 to 30PT games.

RU is not led by a 17 to 20PPG player, which also keeps the notion of it being a better program. RU may be better than Purdue, Iowa or Minnesota, but each has players that have had huge scoring games.

It's still TBD on what the storyline is about RUs season. I could say Geo Baker emerging as a leader, but he's been injured and is not a ball hogging gunner like some other players.

Sportswriters need to attach themselves to the quickest fact that they can look at and the RAC home games is what they want to go with.

I will say that despite what people want to believe, being picked 12th, means that the evaluations on the program, means Vegas and other places have not caught up on RU.

Why does that matter??

There have been 9 consecutive games where RU has not won outright, but they have beaten the proverbial pointspread. They're 11-1-1 since the SFA game, where they were favored by 12 and RU won by 12.

If the writers were just stating it was home court advantage, then some of these games would have been closer than what the experts believed. We didn't squeak by most of these games, RU won comfortably.

That is the argument why RU isn't household right now. Being off the radar or picked 12th and Vegas not recognizing RU and the talent, are perception issues that can change now.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

The AP and Coach Polls mean exactly what these days (in terms of NCAA seeding)?

 

[bitnez]

We’re ranked now, which is cool. It helps the perception of the program. The national hoop heads also recognize what we’re doing. Of course, making the tournament is the ultimate goal for the season, but we might as well enjoy it.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

bart#s

HOME
adjusted offensive efficiency 104.18
Adjusted defensive efficiency 79.825
differential 24.35
that rank would be 5th overall

AWAY from home
adjusted offensive efficiency 105.32
adjusted defensive efficiency 96.62
differential 8.7
that rank would be 83rd at all

We play like Duke and Gonzaga when we are home AND like Bradley or Vermont away from the RAC.

Sample size is obviously low with the road games

 

[fluoxetine]

Other teams have home court advantage though too. You really need to compare our home efficiency to other team's home efficiency and vice versa. As a quick and dirty HFA seems to be ~3.65 points per game. Average tempo is 68.4 possessions, so that HFA is approx 5.34 per 100.

Adjust home to 19.01 diff, away to 14.04 diff. Now we play like #16.5 at home (Michigan / BYU) and like #48 on the road/neutral (~Mississippi). Still a difference, but much less stark.

Also, bear in mind we had one extremely bad neutral performance that is skewing that road/neutral numbers.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

It is very interesting that we have actually played better offensively on the road (limited sample size yes).

I am going to guess that our HFA (f is floor?) is better than most based on the RAC itself and our team's calling card being defense/toughness.

 

[fluoxetine]

F is generally field. Doesn't really work for basketball; just the acronym I'm used to using. Could say it's "floor" for basketball though, works for me.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Came across this just looking up the rankings. He has us and some other B10 ranked but not MSU at all. What does that say about some voters lol.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...anked-but-not-first-place-michigan-state/amp/
https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...anked-but-not-first-place-michigan-state/amp/

 

[fluoxetine]

Gotta assume that's a mistake.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Gotta assume that's a mistake.

Nope looked at his previous votes and MSU is out of them too. He actually has us at 17 this week.

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/pollster/sam-blum/2019/week-12

 

[RUChoppin]

I am a little perplexed by this in general.

Many ( not all) B1G teams have a high amount of home games but I think RU was not interested or 100% thought they would be in this spot.

I also don't think it can be equated to just playing at the RAC. I do think it comes down to being picked 12th, which means RU was not on any radar for making anyone's NCAA brackets.

The writers or voters in most cases can't rattle off starting 5s of other programs but can know who Marcus Howard is, if a player is carrying a program on it's back with 25 to 30PT games.

RU is not led by a 17 to 20PPG player, which also keeps the notion of it being a better program. RU may be better than Purdue, Iowa or Minnesota, but each has players that have had huge scoring games.

It's still TBD on what the storyline is about RUs season. I could say Geo Baker emerging as a leader, but he's been injured and is not a ball hogging gunner like some other players.

Sportswriters need to attach themselves to the quickest fact that they can look at and the RAC home games is what they want to go with.

I will say that despite what people want to believe, being picked 12th, means that the evaluations on the program, means Vegas and other places have not caught up on RU.

Why does that matter??

There have been 9 consecutive games where RU has not won outright, but they have beaten the proverbial pointspread. They're 11-1-1 since the SFA game, where they were favored by 12 and RU won by 12.

If the writers were just stating it was home court advantage, then some of these games would have been closer than what the experts believed. We didn't squeak by most of these games, RU won comfortably.

That is the argument why RU isn't household right now. Being off the radar or picked 12th and Vegas not recognizing RU and the talent, are perception issues that can change now.

We have a solid team, not a superstar and support staff.

Looking at our games this year, 7 different guys have either been the leading scorer or tied for leading scorer. Harper has done it 7 times, Baker 4 times, Mathis/Young/McConnell each 3 times, and Yeboah/Johnson each 2 times. On average, our leading scorer in a game has scored just 17 pts, and only scored more than 22 one time against D-I competition (Harper with 25 over NJIT).

Plus, with a lot of our success being led by our defense, that's also more of a team effort rather than an individual defensive playmaker stepping up - and it also limits overall points in games, as we force opponents to use up all of the shot clock and will frequently grind the clock down ourselves.