Yes they can, go back and read what he said. Just a bunch of empty platitudes.
Football Robb Smith named DC
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I'm not thrilled about this hire, but, hope he proves me wrong.
Does this mean Anthony Campanile is not coming to Rutgers?
Okay thought you weren’t thrilled with Greg or with Gleeson either but maybe it was someone else.
Looking at defensive stats at his DC stops (Top 20 rankings in bold):
Rutgers (2012) - Scoring Defense 14.2 ppg (4th nationally), Total Defense 311.6 ypg (10th), Rushing Defense (97.2 ypg, 6th), Passing Defense (214.5 ypg, 30th), Pass Eff Defense 111.6 (17th)
Arkansas (2014) - Scoring D 19.2 ppg (10th), Total D 323.4 ypg (10th), Rush D 114.6 ypg (12th), Pass D 208.8 ypg (37th), Pass Eff D 123.4 (49th)
Arkansas (2015) - Scoring D 27.4 (68th), Total D 391.6 (58th), Rush D 116.5 (12th), Pass D 275.2 (116th), Pass Eff D 141.7 (103rd)
Arkansas (2016) - Scoring D 31.1 (85th), Total D 426.6 (78th), Rush D 205.5 (94th), Pass D 221.2 (58th), Pass Eff D 129.5 (65th)
Minnesota (2017) - Scoring D 22.8 (56th), Total D 346.7 (30th), Rush D 172.2 (73rd), Pass D 174.5 (11th), Pass Eff D 127.3 (59th)
Minnesota (2018) - Scoring D 26.5 (59th), Total D 385.8 (54th), Rush D 173.4 (78th), Pass D 212.4 (51st), Pass Eff D 131.1 (73rd)
Don't know what the personnel was in those years (key departures, injuries, etc) or what the overall level of competition was (held under averages or no). But those are the raw stats.
Rutgers (2012) - Scoring Defense 14.2 ppg (4th nationally), Total Defense 311.6 ypg (10th), Rushing Defense (97.2 ypg, 6th), Passing Defense (214.5 ypg, 30th), Pass Eff Defense 111.6 (17th)
Arkansas (2014) - Scoring D 19.2 ppg (10th), Total D 323.4 ypg (10th), Rush D 114.6 ypg (12th), Pass D 208.8 ypg (37th), Pass Eff D 123.4 (49th)
Arkansas (2015) - Scoring D 27.4 (68th), Total D 391.6 (58th), Rush D 116.5 (12th), Pass D 275.2 (116th), Pass Eff D 141.7 (103rd)
Arkansas (2016) - Scoring D 31.1 (85th), Total D 426.6 (78th), Rush D 205.5 (94th), Pass D 221.2 (58th), Pass Eff D 129.5 (65th)
Minnesota (2017) - Scoring D 22.8 (56th), Total D 346.7 (30th), Rush D 172.2 (73rd), Pass D 174.5 (11th), Pass Eff D 127.3 (59th)
Minnesota (2018) - Scoring D 26.5 (59th), Total D 385.8 (54th), Rush D 173.4 (78th), Pass D 212.4 (51st), Pass Eff D 131.1 (73rd)
Don't know what the personnel was in those years (key departures, injuries, etc) or what the overall level of competition was (held under averages or no). But those are the raw stats.
I think schiano and rob will do just fine because they have worked together running the defense
My understanding is although not coming to Rutgers, he will be coming to the State Theater in New Brunswick to perform his one man version of Hamlet.
Unless Hobbs made Greg hire this guy than I am fine with his hiring.
Most important factor; 1. Used to work for Greg. 2. Has been in NJ previously. 3. Has called D plays at previous (note plural) stops. 4. Has coached in BIG previous. 5. Has some NFL resume to use. 6. Not every coach can be on the road at once, so if he wants to stay home and babysit the players while our best guys are on he road, what's the problem.
Greg hired him....
Most important factor; 1. Used to work for Greg. 2. Has been in NJ previously. 3. Has called D plays at previous (note plural) stops. 4. Has coached in BIG previous. 5. Has some NFL resume to use. 6. Not every coach can be on the road at once, so if he wants to stay home and babysit the players while our best guys are on he road, what's the problem.
Greg hired him....
You should know me well enough now to realize that I don't get thrilled or overly disappointed by what happens with coaches or players. I never love or hate any of them. I'm pretty even-keeled when it comes to being a sports fan.
I was hoping to hire a serious big-time winning head coach, but always said that if we couldn't find one, Schiano would be okay (something that Schiano idolizers took as heresy LOL).
So far, in terms of recruiting (players and staff), Schiano has exceeded my expectations. But the real test will come after the season starts and we face some real competition.
Early on, I asked about why people were so high on Gleeson. He was an unknown to me and didn't have Big Ten experience. But after learning more about him, and listening to some of the logical arguments here, I was convinced that he has done extremely well so far, and has tons of promise for us, both as a coach and recruiter.
But like I said, I'm pretty reserved about it all. As always, I'm taking a wait and see attitude before I start celebrating anything. Just like I did with Flood and Ash.
Overall, I feel pretty positive about the coaching staff at this point. And it always pays to remember that the assistant coaches are always a transient thing. They come and go quickly.
Well everyone but you knew. Now you can also consider yourself in the know. Congrats
And there are others who would dispute that he didn’t like recruiting... we have plenty of recruiters now on staff... Smith is an experienced coach at all levels... and that is probably the most critical reason... We now have a very good and proven ST coach as well... Harbough probably promised AC he would bring him along when he returns to the PAC 12 or Pros...that will probably come out as the seasons progress.
For the 2018 season, it is fair to compare the games that he was the MN DC with the games after he left. I haven't looked in detail, but I remember at the time that MN seemed to improve greatly with that mid-season DC change. That has to at least be a red flag, along with recruiting.
It doesn't mean the guy will be a failure at Rutgers but it also doesn't mean there aren't reasons for concern.
I agree that the "real test" starts in the fall but I am looking forward to May and June. Always seems to be a lot of verbal commitments at that time of year. Hoping we get wowed with a few.
With his history he can go to a recruit and mention names of NFLers he has coached in the past. Personality aside that shows he gets kids to the next level.
Recruiting is a skill. It should be clear now to everyone that a background does not recruit itself. Even Schiano stated as much in his introductory presser (referencing his time at Ohio State).
Background may be one of many factors in recruiting, but there is likely not much that will differentiate Robb Smith's background from the guys that are DCs at the schools Rutgers needs to successfully recruit against.
The tipping point was the Illinois game where Minnesota gave up 55 points:
Illinois averaged 29.5 points/game and 408.7 yards per game on offense.
In the Illinois game, Minnesota gave up 2 fumbles.
Illinois scored on a kickoff return. On 2 of Illinois' touchdowns, they started at the 30 yard line and 30 yard line of Minnesota. That's practically 21 free points.
When Rossi took over, Minnesota held Purdue to 10 points, Northwestern to 24 points, and Wisconsin to 15 points.
He is pretty good at taking over other people's Ds and progressively making it worse.
While that's a lot of short fields, Illinois had 646 yards of offense in that game, including 430 yards rushing, so it wasn't all starting from the MN 30. Illinois also turned the ball over 3 times (compared to MN's 2), so it wasn't just that either.
MN should have had at least equal talent / experience to a bad 2018 Illinois team. It was also later in the season during the DC's second year so no excuse for not knowing system or plays. It's a significant red flag in my view.
Your points are fair, it just seems like a missed opportunity to add something that this staff doesn't already have. Based on what was being rumored to be offered for AC, there was money to be spent on getting someone who could really add something. This hire doesn't really seem to do that for me.
This one is a little disappointing to me. While I believe a staff should have a mix of experience and those with recruiting skills, Smith's resume is at best mixed when it comes to successes and failures. Would have preferred to see Brown elevated than to settle and save money. At least I assume we are saving some money here.
Can't blame AC for hitching his wagon to Michigan and Harbaugh and believing that is his best path to an eventual HC role if that is his goal. Just wish I had not been so protracted. I guess Hafley had a good read on his likely decision when he forced a decision and hired Lukabu.
Can't blame AC for hitching his wagon to Michigan and Harbaugh and believing that is his best path to an eventual HC role if that is his goal. Just wish I had not been so protracted. I guess Hafley had a good read on his likely decision when he forced a decision and hired Lukabu.
Players recruited by Schiano and Robb Smith's D produced this defense:
ill take it
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2012-team-defense.html
ill take it
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2012-team-defense.html