If the season plays out as the most optimistic here think it will, won't they be coming around with their check books to lure away Miracle Worker Steve ? It usually happens at schools like RU when a program makes a sudden, dramatic improvement.
Can we keep Pikiell
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Miracle worker? Sudden, dramatic improvement? This is year No. 4 of what has been a steadily improving reclamation project.
The only wrong word in Kbee’s post is sudden. If a great season plays out, this will be a very dramatic improvement.
And YES, we can keep Steve. Rutgers will continue to pay him and his staff what they are worth, and continue to support Pike’s program.
Pike has EVERYTHING here he needs to succeed and maintain success, including a fan base that loves him, loves his players and has EXTREMELY reasonable expectations.
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He Coaches in the Best league in the country in the best media market with still as-yet untapped potential.
Why Leave?
Money is always negotiable and this would be a great reason for an extension!
Why Leave?
Money is always negotiable and this would be a great reason for an extension!
Hopefully Pike talks to Greg. Grass isn't always greener. build this program into a perennial NCAA tourney team and he will make a lot of money, be employed for a really long time and have a hell of a legacy.
I'm not sure where he could go (short of the NBA) that he would consider an upgrade. He loves being at Rutgers. Loves the new practice facility and support from admin and donors. His son is a freshman at RU. He can't stop saying that the B1G is the best/toughest league in the country. Using his criteria, even though it might seem irrational to some, I'm not sure what college job would be considered an upgrade over Rutgers.
To quote Teddy KGB, "pay the man his money."
When I see Greg and Steve together on the Jumbotron during a basketball game I’m overcome with a feeling of pride and well-being.
A few weeks ago the board narrative was Pike couldn’t recruit, missed Jay Young, and didn’t run a legit offense.
What a difference a few weeks can make!
Always makes me laugh when the same people who were bashing are now touting the team like they never had any doubts. (Not a shot at you OP, just general comment)
What a difference a few weeks can make!
Always makes me laugh when the same people who were bashing are now touting the team like they never had any doubts. (Not a shot at you OP, just general comment)
This is the answer.
Nobody at the college level in NJ really knows what sustained success could mean but the potential upside dwarfs anything the current bluebloods enjoy in terms of financial success and exposure. If a coach were to build a consistent championship level team in this media market there is no reason to ever leave. You would become a god that would be rammed down the country's collective throat at a pace double that of a Coach K., Saban etc.
It hasn't happened yet but oh boy when it does....
If he gets this team into the NCAA, he will have a lot of teams coming at him. He will also get the type of attention in our media that Greg did in 2006.
What will happen is that we will have to $tep it up with a big committment to him. And that is more than just salary. But the RAC is a special place when we have a good team. It would be very tough for a coach to leave as long as we step it up. I also feel like he would love to take what he built to the next level as well.
What will happen is that we will have to $tep it up with a big committment to him. And that is more than just salary. But the RAC is a special place when we have a good team. It would be very tough for a coach to leave as long as we step it up. I also feel like he would love to take what he built to the next level as well.
yup--some of our "pseudo experts" said he wasn't the answer--but this is normal for the grass is greener people-very loyal after a win-after a loss they abandon team in a second
I think that if pikiell does leave anytime soon, Jay Young should be our #1 coaching candidate and it's not even close
Yeah, I chose not to address keeping CSP because why leave. He has a good thing going there and plenty of support from the higher ups.
As far a fans go, didn't someone start a thread about a month ago questioning whether CSP was the right man for the job?
I've been following this team since Greacen and Armstead. It seems pretty sudden to me.
And I was here the day Tom Young left for greener pastures. One can only hope Pike isn't lured away by big money.
As they say, it takes years of hard work to become an overnight success.
1. Rutgers is in a really good place in the BIG. So, the lure of a better conference is moot.
2. Whereas money was always an issue at Rutgers, the "all in" is certainly including the men's BB program.
3. Brand new practice facility was a real need and it has been answered.
4. Where many think the RAC should be replaced, I think Pike would disagree. The place has turned into a horror show for visitors. Certainly, you could get someone to integrate some improvements to make it better. As for seats, get them early if you want to get in!
Also, you can offset the smaller seating capacity by raising the prices. Winners always cost more.
5. Where the hell would you find a better geographical location????
6. In state talent level. Say no more.
I think I have made my case for him not leaving on his own accord.
2. Whereas money was always an issue at Rutgers, the "all in" is certainly including the men's BB program.
3. Brand new practice facility was a real need and it has been answered.
4. Where many think the RAC should be replaced, I think Pike would disagree. The place has turned into a horror show for visitors. Certainly, you could get someone to integrate some improvements to make it better. As for seats, get them early if you want to get in!
Also, you can offset the smaller seating capacity by raising the prices. Winners always cost more.
5. Where the hell would you find a better geographical location????
6. In state talent level. Say no more.
I think I have made my case for him not leaving on his own accord.
We can afford to keep our coaches now, and this is not your father's Rutgers. No fear, Pike will build the next Monster of the East. Just keep pounding.
Happy that Danny Hurley is at UConn. That's the only job that really scares me. He's not in line to be offered at blue-blood job at this point and we can (and seem committed to) pay him. I'm not worried.
That being said if that did come to pass I think Jay Young and Brandin Knight would be our most likely options.
That being said if that did come to pass I think Jay Young and Brandin Knight would be our most likely options.
I am standing by my preseason prediction........2 periods where Pike isn't the answer AND 2 periods where he needs an extension.
We are way ahead of schedule.
We are way ahead of schedule.
There are plenty of better B1G coaching jobs but B1G schools don't pluck other B1G coaches.
Indiana hired Crean from Marquette, then Miller from Dayton.
Michigan hired Beilein from West Virginia, then Howard from the NBA.
Ohio State hired Matta from Xavier, then Holtman from Butler.
Purdue hired Painter from Southern Illinois.
Illinois hired Weber from Southern Illinois, then Groce from Ohio, then Underwood from Oklahoma State.
I'll stop there. Pikiell isn't leaving for another B1G job. He might eventually down the road get plucked by a school in another conference but it won't be a B1G school. In the five-year future I don't think we have anything to worry about.
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Worried about something not even remotely close to happening yet...I recommend enjoying THIS season first.
*facepalm*
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LOL. It was only a month or so ago that may people on this board were questioning whether Pike was the answer and would ever get it done. Let's at least see how this season goes before worrying about remote contingencies.
Yes. Someone did. Not sure who. There are some fans that panic and get negative very quickly. I just tend to ignore them.
easy to find out---go to pages on this board after a loss (see list on bottom) --you'd be surprised
Every possible stupid thing a human could believe, there is more than one person that believes it.
I guess the F in fan actually stands for fickle. I never go over to the Seton Hall board but made an exception after we beat them. I tell you, I wish I had a dollar for every time I saw the name "Willard". They were KILLING him. I mean it was getting personal. And now?