OC candidates?

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

From another article on Burrow....again what I've been saying forever with regards to KISS and repetition til perfection and Leach and his tree of guys.

From the article:

The passing game that Brady brought mixes RPOs with an NFL-style quick passing game similar to the Saints. One coach who studied it told Yahoo Sports that the genius is that it’s “cosmic in its simplicity.” In some ways, it’s comparable to an Air Raid offense in that there aren’t an overwhelming amount of plays. That’s given Burrow a familiarity and comfort level to hit his trio of elite receivers – Justin Jefferson, Ja’Marr Chase and Terrace Marshall Jr. – at such an elite clip.

Essentially, simplicity allows for mastery. Barrett chuckles while watching LSU and seeing the overlap with what he learned with the Saints. He points out that LSU put in choice routes for receivers, giving them three different options on a play. “They run it out of different formations,” Barrett said. “It looks the same, but it can be different seven times out of 10.”

Burrow said the genius of what Brady has brought to the pass game is LSU’s ability to exploit mismatches. Part of that comes from the flexibility of the receivers, as the X has to be comfortable moving out to the field or the slot sliding to the boundary.

“We get the best players in space to the guy we want to put them against,” Burrow said. “We don’t do a lot of things. But we do it out of a lot of different formations. All my reads are really simple – 1-2-3-4 across the field.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-legend...-to-heisman-frontrunner-at-lsu-234857735.html

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

The quote from the article above and these snippets I've posted about Leach's qb room and his qbs seem like they refer to similar themes. WR has the flexibility to find himself open space and qb find him and get him the ball quick don't overthink it. Maybe something like a "structured" playground football feel.

From the Burrow article above:

Burrow said the genius of what Brady has brought to the pass game is LSU’s ability to exploit mismatches. Part of that comes from the flexibility of the receivers, as the X has to be comfortable moving out to the field or the slot sliding to the boundary.

From the Leach qb room article:

Jorgensen: We didn’t really have playbooks.

Brink: Any high school, any junior college, no matter where you were, your playbook gets simpler when you get to Washington State.

Tuel: Literally as simple as humanly possible.

Apodaca: I remember I threw a pick or something, and I remember asking him what coverage that play is good against. And he goes, “Well, you should have just thrown it to this ****ing guy because he’s standing there wide-*** open.”

Halliday: I said to Leach, “What do I need to do to get the ball there on time?” He was like, “Well, just throw it to the guy who’s ****ing open.” I was like, “Yeah, no, I get that dude, but what do you want me to do to get there quicker?” And he was like, “I don’t give a **** what you do. Just throw it to the guy who’s ****ing open.”

Tuel: You expect someone with that reputation, with that many successful quarterbacks under his umbrella, to have some secret sauce or special way of calling plays or reading defenses or just some scheme that’s better than everyone’s…He just found a way to make it as simple as he can.

 

[eceres]

Rutgersguy1 these are some great quotes.


So the secret is to play like you did when you were a kid? I assume the secret is about how to scan well for the guy who's ****ing open.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Rutgersguy1 these are some great quotes.


So the secret is to play like you did when you were a kid? I assume the secret is about how to scan well for the guy who's ****ing open.

That's why I post things repetitively here...not because i love typing or copy/pasting over and over lol.. I know things I've posted in the past get missed and I'd like the "board conscious" to be informed...makes for better conversation/debate.

As to the secret I don't know beyond I prefer KISS because I think it's the path of least resistance and makes finding the parts and plug and play easier.

Just reading the articles in the past about Leach and his system and coaches and now Brady/Burrow you get the feel that it's sort of like a "structured playground" or a "planned unscriptedness" for lack of better terms....and offensively it's working for both of them...and Brady isn't a Leach tree guy either. I'm not an expert but that's just the feel I get reading about it.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

Just like those snippets in that Orgeron piece in the other thread of how he's changed I hope GS has changed too in terms of his views on offense...I think these defensive coaches struggle with it more like @Shelby65 says often....that attacking mindset of offense doesn't come natural to them and they struggle with it even Orgeron. On defense they may be aggressive but on offense not so much. Also something I've said in the past if it doesn't work stick with it and keep trying it's still the path of least resistance for a school like us regardless of failures...Brady was Orgeron's third try at opening up the offense.

Some snippets from another article on Orgeron and LSU's offense.

In this final scrimmage away from prying eyes, the Tigers would run the real plays, the stuff they’d trot out months later when they needed touchdowns to stay in front of surging Alabama.

On that day, against LSU’s deep defensive line and loaded secondary, quarterback Joe Burrow could barely miss. An offense that had seemed stuck in mud since long before Orgeron arrived had learned to fly thanks to the hiring of a then 29-year-old former New Orleans Saints staffer and the willingness of a longtime Tiger to do not what made him comfortable but what would make LSU better. On that Saturday, Orgeron truly believed. “We had completed 80 percent of our balls,” he said. “Eighty percent. Against our defense.”

As he walked off the field that day, he turned to right-hand man Derek Ponamsky and uttered words no one in purple and gold had said in a long time. “We’ve got us a f—n’ offense,” Orgeron said with a big smile.

After eight consecutive losses to Alabama during which LSU averaged 3.8 yards a play and 9.1 points a game, the Tigers rolled up 559 yards, averaged 7.1 yards a play and kept on scoring

The progress on the ground made Orgeron — who can’t completely abandon conventional football wisdom — giddy. Only a few moments earlier, he’d been growling at Ensminger and Brady. “Can we run it just a little bit please?” he said. “We are ahead.”

But to stay ahead, LSU would have to throw.

Instead of trying to run out the clock, the Tigers came out firing with an RPO. LSU’s goal all night was to put Alabama’s freshman linebackers in conflict, to make them think too much and react too slowly.

 

[brookdale-soda]

Schiano tried the spread with ciaroca and it didn't work well. But by his own admission, he didn't know what he was doing with it. Urban said separately that people think they can just dabble in spread or RPO concepts but teams that do end up looking inept. I think that's what happened with schiano when he thought he could dabble in it when he was here, after we lost savage.

I'd expect schiano either delegates to an expert or we will struggle offensively again.

 

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IIRC when Leach got to WSU his OL stunk. Whether he fixed it schematically or talent wise, I believe the offense didn't start really rolling until then. Even as fast as they require the QB to determine the open receiver, it helps to have a clean pocket.
Even at RU, the better teams had the better OL.

 

[vkj91]

Schiano tried the spread with ciaroca and it didn't work well. But by his own admission, he didn't know what he was doing with it. Urban said separately that people think they can just dabble in spread or RPO concepts but teams that do end up looking inept. I think that's what happened with schiano when he thought he could dabble in it when he was here, after we lost savage.

I'd expect schiano either delegates to an expert or we will struggle offensively again.

he didn't "try" the spread. you can't implement something in football for one season and claim you tried it.

 

[NickRU714]

he didn't "try" the spread. you can't implement something in football for one season and claim you tried it.

It's astounding how many people think this.

2016 is a perfect example.
Ash got scared after the power spread didnt immediately work and went the complete opposite with Kill in 2017.

 

[rutgersguy1_rivals]

It's astounding how many people think this.

2016 is a perfect example.
Ash got scared after the power spread didnt immediately work and went the complete opposite with Kill in 2017.

As I've said see Seth Littrell/Graham Harrell/Mason Fine year 1 at UNT vs year 2 and 3.

Also the difference between a defensive HC and offensive HC....the offensive guy won't be scared off by those year 1 results ...the defensive guy just might be.