The 150th Evening Edition Recap

[ATIOH]

SIAP, here’s some thoughts from tonight. Sorry for the brain dump, maybe I’ll come back and edit. Work was busy today, so I missed the daytime events.

Cocktail Hour

• No one checked tickets at the door. There was a red carpet outside. I showed up late, so not sure if anything was done with that. It was a nice venue... I was pleasantly surprised.
• Waiter passed apps were very good. Lobster Mac n Cheese, Filet, etc. Top shelf open bar. I was expecting more people, but it was not crowded at all. Also not that many people wearing red either.

Taped show

• We were then ushered into a small auditorium. Dave Revsine (BTN) was the host and ran through some housekeeping issues (We’re filming a tv show, don’t yell anything, etc.). The program will air next Monday.
• The interview lineup began with a professor from PSU (didn’t catch the name). The middle panel had Battaglia, Leonard, and Teel. The last panel was Alvarez and Hobbs. Jim Delany did not join, though I thought I saw him in the audience.
• It took about 90 minutes. I’m thinking this could make a good hour show if it’s edited down.
• Revsine interviewed everyone. I wasn’t aware that he had written a book about the early days of college football. The professor was an expert on that period and they had some interesting points. Some things that stuck out to me...
  • Intercollegiate sports only became possible after the railroad was built.
  • The first game wasn’t like rugby at all, it was like soccer. Rugby style only came decades later.
    
  • Rutgers and Princeton played twice that first year, but the rules of the game were completely different each time. The host chose the rules, which is probably why the home team won both.
  • Both teams went out for drinks and played pool before the game. (I’m thinking this could be the first tailgate).
• Next was the player panel. I barely recognized them... it’s been a while. Brian Leonard is smaller than Mike Teel now. Some funny bits here and there. Schiano’s name came up nonstop. It was clear how important he was in their development. One quick story from BL... Schiano had assigned individual cops to essentially do secret service details for each of the key players post Louisville ’06. I’ve seen a negative slant on the board about Schiano micromanaging. Just think about this for a second though... he game planned down to the field being stormed postgame and had prepped officers on which players they were assigned to shadow/escort off the field.
• Finally came Hobbs and Alvarez. Nothing else really matters besides Hobbs saying some nice things about Schiano. Whether real or not, it came off as genuine and heartfelt. Based only off tonight, I see Hobbs having zero hesitation in pulling the trigger on Schiano if/when that’s what it comes down to.

Random Stuff

• Ok, holy sh*t... there was a phone ringing every two minutes. LITERALLY there was a phone ringing every two minutes. And not like it rings once, and the person quickly silences their phone. More like my phone is ringing, I’m going to let it ring three times, then take it out of my purse so it’s even louder, and then stare at it until it goes to voicemail. Someone’s ringtone was U2’s Beautiful Day. That person either doesn’t have voicemail or they were just playing the actual song because I heard multiple choruses... nearly the whole G*damn song played in the middle of taping a tv show!
  
• There was a small table on the stage between the host and panelists. It had a black B1G football helmet on it. It would have been nice if it had been a Rutgers helmet.
• The professor was wearing some ridiculous sandals. I’m expecting only close upper body shots to air on BTN. He was a joker with several funny lines, but plenty of clunkers as well.

I’m 90% in on Hobbs. But every time I’ve interacted with him, there’s usually a small unforced error. Out of all the panelists tonight, he was clearly the most media savvy by a long shot. He was prepared and gave clear concise answers. (Let’s just say some of the others were stumped by softball questions, and there were a few long winded responses that won’t make the final cut). He chose to address the elephant in the room on his own. He also made it obvious that he understands the problems we face and is passionate about solving them.

So here’s the “but.” I know this is nitpicky and will sound silly, so with those disclaimers out of the way... he didn’t wear a suit. He wore a sports coat and khakis.

It’s an event that was being filmed, attended by major donors, and had a business attire requirement. He was sitting next to Alvarez and Revsine who were both wearing suits. It just looked sloppy. What gets me is he’s clearly a smart guy, who knows how to schmooze and normally dresses appropriately. It’s not like his blazer was red and I’m sure he has a hundred suits. There was zero reason not to wear one. He also made an odd throw away reference to his Rose bowl comment. Again, I’m a fan of the guy overall.

Mike Teel - I was impressed. He was quoting stats and records from his playing days, and came off very sharp talking about the issues the program faces. I’d love for him to get more involved with the next staff.

Here’s a shot I took of the ice sculpture near the entrance.

 

[DirtyRU]

Wow, great post! Thanks for sharing, good stuff.

 

[Knight Shift]

Excellent summary.
Couple of points from a different perspective.

Do not agree that Schiano's name came up nonstop with the player panel. Sure, it came up a few times as his name could not be left out during the discussion of 2005 season and Louisville game. But when it did come up, you could feel how much the players revered Greg. They emphasized how much Greg instilled a belief that the team would succeed.

One interesting statement by Brian Leonard, and this is not an exact quote. Revsine asked a question about getting the program back on track. Brian said something to the effect of the new Coach did not have to be Greg Schiano, but it could be him.

As far as the footwear of the professor, did not see it as a problem. And thought Hobbs' attire was absolutely fine for business attire.

Pat did go out of his way to make an emphatic and sincere statement that he has great respect for for Greg and what he did he did for the program.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Excellent summary.
Couple of points from a different perspective.

Do not agree that Schiano's name came up nonstop with the player panel. Sure, it came up a few times as his name could not be left out during the discussion of 2005 season and Louisville game. But when it did come up, you could feel how much the players revered Greg. They emphasized how much Greg instilled a belief that the team would succeed.

One interesting statement by Brian Leonard, and this is not an exact quote. Revsine asked a question about getting the program back on track. Brian said something to the effect of the new Coach did not have to be Greg Schiano, but it could be him.

As far as the footwear of the professor, did not see it as a problem. And thought Hobbs' attire was absolutely fine for business attire.

Pat did go out of his way to make an emphatic and sincere statement that he has great respect for for Greg and what he did he did for the program.

Gotta disagree with you and agree with @ATIOH

1. Professor was wearing black socks and sandals.That was just.. Well.. Touristy.
2. Brian Leonard alone mentioned Schiano 9x (we counted each time he referenced him). There were also 2 references to the chop. But yes he did say it could be someone other than Schiano.
3. Hobbs looled like a professor in his khakis and brown blazer. It was an event with a "business attire" request and he, the AD from RU and sitting on the panel, wore business casual.. You were dressed mor appropriately to be on the panel than he was.

The show is airing on BTN Monday at 7pm.

 

[KingHigh]

Weird of Pat to not have on a suit. I guess that reflects his casual approach in general to the whole thing, evident in the generally half-assed production offered up yesterday which was so lackluster that they apparently did not even have to bother checking tickets

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Weird of Pat to not have on a suit. I guess that reflects his casual approach in general to the whole thing, evident in the generally half-assed production offered up yesterday which was so lackluster that they apparently did not even have to bother checking tickets

I went in at 6pm
They checked my ticket.

 

[fg7321]

I never got a printable ticket told them i had an email confirmation and they were fine with that .

 

[Upstream]

I didn't have a problem with what any of them were wearing. For the television program, almost all the shots will be mid-torso up. I did think that Hobbs looked worn out, compared to how he usually looks. I don't know if that is because of the events of the past week, or just because it was a long day for him interviewing Schiano in Columbus in the morning and then flying to NJ for the 150th activities.

I talked to several potentially knowledgeable people during the cocktail hour and dessert reception, and no one knows (or wouldn't say) what Schiano's demands were. At least 2 people said it had to be more than replacing the bubble with a new indoor facility, since that is already planned.

 

[R1766U_rivals]

I also was there (and my ticket was checked).

Schiano was mentioned a lot. Always in a positive light. The crowd burst out into applause when Leonard mentioned the chop.

Who cares if the professor was barefoot. Professors are commonly eccentric. This guy knew ever detail of the history of college sports and it did not surprise me he was wearing sandals.

Marco B made an interesting comment about “Jersey eating themselves” or something like that. I think he was referencing how there are offen disputes between different levels of administration/media. He, as usual was great. His passion for Rutgers trumps all.

Teel was also great. Really passionate and articulate in his responses. Leonard seemed nervous and had some borderline bizzare answers. For example, he said Rutgers did not do a good job in letting people know it was the birthplace of college football when he was in school. He also stumbled over his words when he tried saying that the next coach might be Schiano but doesnt have to. To me, it seemed like he was angry that the previous admin (Ash) did not reach out to him, invite him around. He did look super skinny, my wife did bot recognize him and pointed out it would be hard to convince someone who didnt know him that he was an NFL player.

Hobbs’ attire was fine. Again, who cares. He does look worn down. It is clear to me last night when Hobbs spent a significant amount of time talking about the need for facilities that he is on board giving Schiano what he wants. If this doesn’t happen, it is not on Hobbs.

Alvarez was great, spoke about how when he was rebuilding Wisconsin, he focused on his O and D lines.... because that is what Wisconsin kids were known for. He also said he focused on recruiting walk ons... whom he would develop, a la JJ Watt.

Food was good, drinks were good. Overall, a really nice evening.

 

[Knight Shift]

I also was there (and my ticket was checked).

Schiano was mentioned a lot. Always in a positive light. The crowd burst out into applause when Leonard mentioned the chop.

Who cares if the professor was barefoot. Professors are commonly eccentric. This guy knew ever detail of the history of college sports and it did not surprise me he was wearing sandals.

Marco B made an interesting comment about “Jersey eating themselves” or something like that. I think he was referencing how there are offen disputes between different levels of administration/media. He, as usual was great. His passion for Rutgers trumps all.

Teel was also great. Really passionate and articulate in his responses. Leonard seemed nervous and had some borderline bizzare answers. For example, he said Rutgers did not do a good job in letting people know it was the birthplace of college football when he was in school. He also stumbled over his words when he tried saying that the next coach might be Schiano but doesnt have to. To me, it seemed like he was angry that the previous admin (Ash) did not reach out to him, invite him around. He did look super skinny, my wife did bot recognize him and pointed out it would be hard to convince someone who didnt know him that he was an NFL player.

Hobbs’ attire was fine. Again, who cares. He does look worn down. It is clear to me last night when Hobbs spent a significant amount of time talking about the need for facilities that he is on board giving Schiano what he wants. If this doesn’t happen, it is not on Hobbs.

Alvarez was great, spoke about how when he was rebuilding Wisconsin, he focused on his O and D lines.... because that is what Wisconsin kids were known for. He also said he focused on recruiting walk ons... whom he would develop, a la JJ Watt.

Food was good, drinks were good. Overall, a really nice evening.

You make a good point about Alvarez. He was outstanding, and Revsine showed Rutgers major love when he highlighted what Alavarez did in taking a horrible football program to the heights it as at today. It can be done.

 

[srru86]

Thank you very much for the recaps - Much appreciated.

A question on Jacket and khakis.
With or without tie?
When we say khakis do we mean nice wool slacks in that shade or cotton Dockers?
It makes a difference.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Thank you very much for the recaps - Much appreciated.

A question on Jacket and khakis.
With or without tie?
When we say khakis do we mean nice wool slacks in that shade or cotton Dockers?
It makes a difference.

Tie.
Dockers

the professor:

 

[RU19931]

Weird of Pat to not have on a suit. I guess that reflects his casual approach in general to the whole thing, evident in the generally half-assed production offered up yesterday which was so lackluster that they apparently did not even have to bother checking tickets

Please stop with your useless whining

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I talked to several potentially knowledgeable people during the cocktail hour and dessert reception, and no one knows (or wouldn't say) what Schiano's demands were. At least 2 people said it had to be more than replacing the bubble with a new indoor facility, since that is already planned.

It could also be stadium expansion since that is something Schiano mentioned to some of the NJ.com guys years ago.

 

[NewJerseyGuy]

the professor:

Professor Sandals looks like his right ankle might be swollen. He’s old and might have some medical issue. I’ll allow it.

 

[srru86]

Tie
Dockers

Dockers, while regrettable, without tie would have been unfortunate if not inappropriate.
Thanks again.

 

[angmo]

When in doubt, overdress. I was invited to a funeral with no dress code, so I wore a tuxedo. Just in case.

Turns out the dead guy was a magician, so I sawed the casket in half and levitated his torso.

Thanks for the recaps. Glad you all had fun. Try the veal.

 

[srru86]

When in doubt, overdress. I was invited to a funeral with no dress code, so I wore a tuxedo. Just in case.

Turns out the dead guy was a magician, so I sawed the casket in half and levitated his torso.

Thanks for the recaps. Glad you all had fun. Try the veal.

Well played, sir.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Thanks for sharing and for starting a new and relevant thread that isn't about the coaching search. I now regret not going...oh well.

I just watched Pat's speech outside prior to ringing the bells. Blue Blazer, Red tie and sweater vest...that would have been a nice look for the panel. But a super long day for him as mentioned.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

I see me in that crowd photo!

 

[Knight Shift]

Professor Sandals looks like his right ankle might be swollen. He’s old and might have some medical issue. I’ll allow it.

Are you a podiatrist? That's a great diagnosis.
I had a similar thought that perhaps he could not wear dress shoes due to a foot issue.

 

[Knight Shift]

I went in at 6pm
They checked my ticket.

Me too. @KingHigh has been complaining a lot lately.

Tie.
Dockers

the professor:

Did you check the tags on Hobbs' pants? Of course, opinions can vary, but see nothing wrong with what Hobbs wore. Those do not look like dockers.

Did you notice the professor's sandals did not match? Seems they may have been worn for medical reasons, or his shoe closet was hit by a cyclone.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Me too. @KingHigh has been complaining a lot lately.



Did you check the tags on Hobbs' pants? Of course, opinions can vary, but see nothing wrong with what Hobbs wore. Those do not look like dockers. no, but I saw him afterwards and talked to him and they weren't fancy wool slacks. they were khakis. the question was posed to me "dockers or wool" I went with dockers because they weren't wool. As the representative of the school celebrating 150 years I personally thought he should have been in a suit. Compared to the 2 men he was up there with he looked a little sloppy, for lack of a better word.

Did you notice the professor's sandals did not match? Seems they may have been worn for medical reasons, or his shoe closet was hit by a cyclone the professors sandals did match, that photo I posted is a zoomed in fuzzy image with a stage light on it. It was just bizarre to see it. .

 

[Knight Shift]

Oh, and my wife thanks you again for the glass of wine!!

 

[Letitrip]

SIAP, here’s some thoughts from tonight. Sorry for the brain dump, maybe I’ll come back and edit. Work was busy today, so I missed the daytime events.

Cocktail Hour

• No one checked tickets at the door. There was a red carpet outside. I showed up late, so not sure if anything was done with that. It was a nice venue... I was pleasantly surprised.
• Waiter passed apps were very good. Lobster Mac n Cheese, Filet, etc. Top shelf open bar. I was expecting more people, but it was not crowded at all. Also not that many people wearing red either.

Taped show

• We were then ushered into a small auditorium. Dave Revsine (BTN) was the host and ran through some housekeeping issues (We’re filming a tv show, don’t yell anything, etc.). The program will air next Monday.
• The interview lineup began with a professor from PSU (didn’t catch the name). The middle panel had Battaglia, Leonard, and Teel. The last panel was Alvarez and Hobbs. Jim Delany did not join, though I thought I saw him in the audience.
• It took about 90 minutes. I’m thinking this could make a good hour show if it’s edited down.
• Revsine interviewed everyone. I wasn’t aware that he had written a book about the early days of college football. The professor was an expert on that period and they had some interesting points. Some things that stuck out to me...
  • Intercollegiate sports only became possible after the railroad was built.
  • The first game wasn’t like rugby at all, it was like soccer. Rugby style only came decades later.
    
  • Rutgers and Princeton played twice that first year, but the rules of the game were completely different each time. The host chose the rules, which is probably why the home team won both.
  • Both teams went out for drinks and played pool before the game. (I’m thinking this could be the first tailgate).
• Next was the player panel. I barely recognized them... it’s been a while. Brian Leonard is smaller than Mike Teel now. Some funny bits here and there. Schiano’s name came up nonstop. It was clear how important he was in their development. One quick story from BL... Schiano had assigned individual cops to essentially do secret service details for each of the key players post Louisville ’06. I’ve seen a negative slant on the board about Schiano micromanaging. Just think about this for a second though... he game planned down to the field being stormed postgame and had prepped officers on which players they were assigned to shadow/escort off the field.
• Finally came Hobbs and Alvarez. Nothing else really matters besides Hobbs saying some nice things about Schiano. Whether real or not, it came off as genuine and heartfelt. Based only off tonight, I see Hobbs having zero hesitation in pulling the trigger on Schiano if/when that’s what it comes down to.

Random Stuff

• Ok, holy sh*t... there was a phone ringing every two minutes. LITERALLY there was a phone ringing every two minutes. And not like it rings once, and the person quickly silences their phone. More like my phone is ringing, I’m going to let it ring three times, then take it out of my purse so it’s even louder, and then stare at it until it goes to voicemail. Someone’s ringtone was U2’s Beautiful Day. That person either doesn’t have voicemail or they were just playing the actual song because I heard multiple choruses... nearly the whole G*damn song played in the middle of taping a tv show!
  
• There was a small table on the stage between the host and panelists. It had a black B1G football helmet on it. It would have been nice if it had been a Rutgers helmet.
• The professor was wearing some ridiculous sandals. I’m expecting only close upper body shots to air on BTN. He was a joker with several funny lines, but plenty of clunkers as well.

I’m 90% in on Hobbs. But every time I’ve interacted with him, there’s usually a small unforced error. Out of all the panelists tonight, he was clearly the most media savvy by a long shot. He was prepared and gave clear concise answers. (Let’s just say some of the others were stumped by softball questions, and there were a few long winded responses that won’t make the final cut). He chose to address the elephant in the room on his own. He also made it obvious that he understands the problems we face and is passionate about solving them.

So here’s the “but.” I know this is nitpicky and will sound silly, so with those disclaimers out of the way... he didn’t wear a suit. He wore a sports coat and khakis.

It’s an event that was being filmed, attended by major donors, and had a business attire requirement. He was sitting next to Alvarez and Revsine who were both wearing suits. It just looked sloppy. What gets me is he’s clearly a smart guy, who knows how to schmooze and normally dresses appropriately. It’s not like his blazer was red and I’m sure he has a hundred suits. There was zero reason not to wear one. He also made an odd throw away reference to his Rose bowl comment. Again, I’m a fan of the guy overall.

Mike Teel - I was impressed. He was quoting stats and records from his playing days, and came off very sharp talking about the issues the program faces. I’d love for him to get more involved with the next staff.

Here’s a shot I took of the ice sculpture near the entrance.

Really outstanding summary!! You attention to detail (like the phones ringing etc) was spot on. Hats off to Devco who had a lot to do with organizing the event at the NBPAC- they always do a fabulous job! RU pre event planning was very unorganized as usual.

One last comment - the professor could have spent much more time on the first game - seemed like he did not know lots of the details and he jumped way too soon to the yale/harvard games. Of course he was a Penn State professor so ........

 

[KingHigh]

Please stop with your useless whining

I can’t help it if your standards are lower than mine.

 

[KingHigh]

Me too. @KingHigh has been complaining a lot lately.



Did you check the tags on Hobbs' pants? Of course, opinions can vary, but see nothing wrong with what Hobbs wore. Those do not look like dockers.

Did you notice the professor's sandals did not match? Seems they may have been worn for medical reasons, or his shoe closet was hit by a cyclone.

For good reason. Could you imagine if the first college football game took place on November 6, 1869 at the university of Michigan? How would they have commemorated the occasion? Imagine that, and then consider whether you were satisfied with how Rutgers used this opportunity.

I don’t doubt that you and Mrs. screw in your other friends in the room had a very pleasant time in each others company. But look at the big picture. This whole thing was piss poor.

 

[Knight Shift]

For good reason. Could you imagine if the first college football game took place on November 6, 1869 at the university of Michigan? How would they have commemorated the occasion? Imagine that, and then consider whether you were satisfied with how Rutgers used this opportunity.

I don’t doubt that you and Mrs. screw in your other friends in the room had a very pleasant time in each others company. But look at the big picture. This whole thing was piss poor.

I've got news for you--Rutgers University athletics is not even remotely close to being on par with University Michigan athletics.
The commemoration was what it was. Given the state of the program, perhaps it was best there is not a game this week.
IIRC, you ditched cheering for one baseball team in favor of another. You seem like a fair weather fan. Complainers are going to complain. While it would have been nice to be doing something on a grander scale, last night was not "piss poor" as you put it. Frankly, some find your attitude piss poor. And we are entitled to our opinion on that too. Have a nice day.

 

[Letitrip]

One of the highlights was Brian Leonard discussing his recruitment. As we all know Syracuse was recruiting him hard. When he told the cuse coaches he was committing to RU one of the coaches said to Brian that he will never be on a team that beats Syracuse. He finished up by saying "we went 4-0 against them". Crowd loved it.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

For good reason. Could you imagine if the first college football game took place on November 6, 1869 at the university of Michigan? How would they have commemorated the occasion? Imagine that, and then consider whether you were satisfied with how Rutgers used this opportunity.

I don’t doubt that you and Mrs. screw in your other friends in the room had a very pleasant time in each others company. But look at the big picture. This whole thing was piss poor.

it was a valiant last ditch effort, but, in typical RU fashion was not well put together in the sense that maybe 1/4 of RU fans got the email. No one knows if season ticket holders, RFund donors or just regular donors were supposed to get it. Half of the people that RSVP'd never got the 2nd email.
The cocktail hour was great as previously discussed.
There were many empty seats inside which was really a shame since so many people said they wanted to go but when they finally found out about the event it was too late to sign up.
There was a red carpet and a wall of flowers to pose in front of which was nice, but it was unfortunate that they took it away before we all left...some fun group shots would have been nice.
I agree with @letitrip2 that the professor seemed to steamroll over the first game and moved onto Ivy League rugby pretty quickly. He also kept confusing Rutgers and Princeton when he spoke (the audience corrected him a few times) and thought that Princeton "came down" to Rutgers to play ball. but that's what you get from a psu guy.
The professor was not on the original line up of speakers, Jim Delaney was and he didn't speak. Hobbs was also not on the list of speakers but sat up on the stage with Barry.
The highlight for me was listening to the players talk about their experiences here at RU, why they chose to come here. Brian because of his brother, Marco because it was close to home, Teel because he wanted to stay home.
It will be interesting to watch this Monday night to see how it all gets edited.

 

[RUnTeX]

One last comment - the professor could have spent much more time on the first game - seemed like he did not know lots of the details and he jumped way too soon to the yale/harvard games. Of course he was a Penn State professor so ........

Perhaps they had the wrong guy there and should have had, I dunno, Tom Frusciano, the University Archivist for Rutgers there instead? Or maybe have both of them there as complementary pieces bringing their respective knowledge bases.

 

[Knight Shift]

it was a valiant last ditch effort, but, in typical RU fashion was not well put together in the sense that maybe 1/4 of RU fans got the email. No one knows if season ticket holders, RFund donors or just regular donors were supposed to get it. Half of the people that RSVP'd never got the 2nd email.
The cocktail hour was great as previously discussed.
There were many empty seats inside which was really a shame since so many people said they wanted to go but when they finally found out about the event it was too late to sign up.
There was a red carpet and a wall of flowers to pose in front of which was nice, but it was unfortunate that they took it away before we all left...some fun group shots would have been nice.
I agree with @letitrip2 that the professor seemed to steamroll over the first game and moved onto Ivy League rugby pretty quickly. He also kept confusing Rutgers and Princeton when he spoke (the audience corrected him a few times) and thought that Princeton "came down" to Rutgers to play ball. but that's what you get from a psu guy.
The professor was not on the original line up of speakers, Jim Delaney was and he didn't speak. Hobbs was also not on the list of speakers but sat up on the stage with Barry.
The highlight for me was listening to the players talk about their experiences here at RU, why they chose to come here. Brian because of his brother, Marco because it was close to home, Teel because he wanted to stay home.
It will be interesting to watch this Monday night to see how it all gets edited.

If it was mentioned above, forgive me, but Marco revealed that he was not at the Louisville 2006 game because he had just retired from the NFL and was on a vacation.

 

[RUnTeX]

I agree with @letitrip2 that the professor seemed to steamroll over the first game and moved onto Ivy League rugby pretty quickly. He also kept confusing Rutgers and Princeton when he spoke (the audience corrected him a few times) and thought that Princeton "came down" to Rutgers to play ball. but that's what you get from a psu guy

Interesting, see my response to letitrip above and my thoughts apply in follow up to your post as well.

Paging Tom Frusciano....did anyone bother to contact him (hopefully they did but maybe he wasn't available? I wouldn't put it past the organizers to overlook him as a resource) rather than getting a guy to schlep 3+ hours over from State College who doesn't have all his facts straight? Hearing about corrections from the audience is embarrassing.

 

[Ru-baby]

Great summary thanks. Absolutely agree as to not wearing a suit inappropriate. May speak to being in the academic world rather than the real world for so long. Like wearing a non red tie at your introduction. Pointed this out re Fred Hill and many scoffed, but his lack of attention to detail was clear from the get go and these things are usually indicators.

Sounds like micromanaging is on its way back and couldn't be needed more.

Again great summary and thank for the info.

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Interesting, see my response to letitrip above and my thoughts apply in follow up to your post as well.

Paging Tom Frusciano....did anyone bother to contact him (hopefully they did but maybe he wasn't available? I wouldn't put it past the organizers to overlook him as a resource) rather than getting a guy to schlep 3+ hours over from State College who doesn't have all his facts straight? Hearing about corrections from the audience is embarrassing.

BTN production. who knows who they contacted.

 

[Wolv RU]

Maybe just me, but when I read the OP I pictured Hobbs in no tie (since he did not mention one). I don't really see much of an issue with his appearance as pictured.

 

[SouthJerseyRU]

Thanks to all that provided the recaps, especially the detailed OP.

 

[KingHigh]

IIRC, you ditched cheering for one baseball team in favor of another.

I think most people understood that to be a gag, to make the point that following sports is supposed to be entertainment. And true, the Mets have crushed my interest in baseball. The minute it ceases to be entertaining is the minute that I'm gone. I guess that is a fair weather fan. So what. I'm complaining because when we were just "regular" and not "Rutgers hardcore suck," going to games was my favorite thing to do. If all Rutgers wants is 10,000 pollyannas to show for them unconditionally, then they should continue on their course. Otherwise, it's time we stop excusing poor performance. Critics, I believe, do more good for the program than you want to acknowledge.

 

[Knight Shift]

I think most people understood that to be a gag, to make the point that following sports is supposed to be entertainment. And true, the Mets have crushed my interest in baseball. The minute it ceases to be entertaining is the minute that I'm gone. I guess that is a fair weather fan. So what. I'm complaining because when we were just "regular" and not "Rutgers hardcore suck," going to games was my favorite thing to do. If all Rutgers wants is 10,000 pollyannas to show for them unconditionally, then they should continue on their course. Otherwise, it's time we stop excusing poor performance. Critics, I believe, do more good for the program than you want to acknowledge.

Maybe you should stop criticizing die-hard fans and loyals sons and daughters. This is not professional sports. Some of us choose to show up and cheer for our student athletes through thick and thin. Those people are not Pollyannas. But whatever makes you field good about your stance, go with it.