back below a smattering of 1AA's again. Something I thought I'd never see again in my life.
Schiano!
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Zap....the BigEast was Mike Tranghese's eyelash away from losing BCS status. Did they have a few worthy and ranked teams ? Yes. But overall the conference was weak, below the Mountain West. I think there were talks of merging with the Mountain West to save the BCS bid.
As you can tell, my opinion is that it can't possibly be just a coincidence that the teams Schiano went 0-fer against all left and Rutgers got a lot better at the very same time.
As you can tell, my opinion is that it can't possibly be just a coincidence that the teams Schiano went 0-fer against all left and Rutgers got a lot better at the very same time.
This is another ignorant comment. As of 2015 opening day rosters there were 17 players from UConn in the nfl. There were also 17 players from Rutgers.
Need to at least have contact with Norvell and Clawson to see if interested.
IMO it might just be perfect timing. There's really no face of the University to take the brunt of the spending. Barchi's on his way out and he could probably give two sh*ts what the faculty or media says at this point. The new President won't be tied to it. And the BOG is pretty much a faceless group in the media.
So while Rutgers may take some heat from the media and a few politicians trying to make a name for themselves(no one listens to them anyway) there's really not a name they can pin the spending on. Maybe Hobbs but the guys used to these situations being a former ombudsman and I'm sure a lot will be paid for by boosters.
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Agree. Hope that Hobbs contacts all of them, directly or thru their agents.
But for anyone who has worked in Sales, those leads can dry up fast.
And they probably will. Hobbs could find himself shopping in the up and coming HC or coordinator aisle again, even with competitive $$$ to spend.
Greg may be the last man standing as Hobbs looks over his cards when we get to December.
Now that's some damn fine research. Well done sir.
I hope the search firm hired is putting feelers out to the agents of Norvell , Clawson and other current HCs that will be considered good catches once the hiring starts.
Clawson has a good deal going at wake. He’s not coming to rutgers.
Don’t forget Cowher, Dungy, Stoops and Meyer...May as well throw in Joe Giaradi while we’re at it Hat...:WideSmile:
I nominate myself for the job. I'll work for a whole lot less than $4mm, and I have led RU to multiple national championships in the old EA Sports NCAA Football franchise. I run a multiple offense...power running with air raid concepts. Defense is a 4-3 attacking, pressure oriented, and very aggressive - I bring more guys than you can block. I'm a tireless recruiter, working that recruiting wire until all hours of the night.
Can't understand why blasts from the past aren't being mentioned.
I nominate Bill Parcells :WooHoo:
As for Joe Giaradi: I'm more of a Buck Showalter man myself.
Asking through back channels costs nothing. And Clawson is at the 4th school in his own state. That's not for everyone. He also makes a lot less than Rutgers will reportedly pay its next coach.
I see, so you're saying don't bother trying to make a play for a current successful coach. Sorry, I fail to see the downside. Moreover, it is now Hobbs' job to sell the program and the current opportunity to candidates.
I think you can make a pretty good argument that Ville/Cincy/USF were at least as good as VT/BC/Miami 05-11. I think you could even make an argument the new teams were better.
I am deeply skeptical of someone without Northeast ties having success here.
I think the disconnect on this issue seems to come from a comparison that people are making as to VT/BC/Miami in the immediate preceding time period (e.g., 1999-2003/4) and not using those teams for what they actually were in 2005-2011. I think that's where the popular narrative ("watered down") finds its roots.
In my view, that is a false comparison. Miami was going to backslide no matter what conference it was in. At VT, they were never as good after Vick left as they were when he was there. BC seems to have pretty much been a constant both pre and post ACC in both time periods.
Fine to be skeptical. If Hobbs is doing his job, he seeks out these candidates and really interviews at least a couple of them. He needs to get the full picture as to their recruiting plans and to find out who they would get for their staffs. Then he can make an informed decision.
In my view, if this is a "put all your eggs in one basket and hope for the best" process, that will be very risky.
Of course I think there should be due diligence. But personally I view P5 HC experience and Northeast ties as paramount. My take is I do think GS is the best positioned, but I think there are other good options and it's worth asking. Hell someone may want out of a P5 gig for a weird reason. I mean Holgerson left WVU for Houston just because they threw money at him. So I don't rule anything out.
I think you are giving people too much credit. The big east was arguably better than the acc and trending well in football. The raid of Pitt and Syracuse was defensive. The big east post va tech BC and Miami was actually a pretty damn good football league. Not big ten or sec but pretty good. It showed up in the out of conference and bowl records during those years. Uninformed people don’t understand any of that.
Holgerson is a great example. Not many would have predicted that two years before it happened.
I think regional ties increase the likelihood of success but at some point good coaches are just good coaches. Urban Meyer coached at Utah, Florida, and Ohio State and had success at all. How many Utah connections did he have before that job?
You don't have to look at one of the greatest of all time for a comparison either. Bronco Mendenhall is doing it right now at UVA. Had he even been in the Eastern time zone for more than away games before taking that job?
I do agree with you, but I also think looking at bowl records should not be overstated. The Big East had lousy bowl agreements, which meant that its teams were often playing down in the standings in bowl games. For example, a higher ranked Big East team would play a team that finished closer to .500 in another P5 conference.
I would also suggest that in general, earlier in the time frame (2005-2007) the Big East was better than the latter part (2009-2011). UConn winning the league that one year wasn't exactly a shining moment. Nor was Pitt in 2004.
That's fair about Meyer and I would (obviously) consider him if he were interested. I'd consider Harbaugh and D'Antonio for similar reasons if they were fired. But I feel like those names are kind of rare. Mendenhall did succeed at BYU which I would almost consider a P5 in terms of their fanbase size and national recruiting. I think it's somewhat different than the other two. If Mendenhall can win the ACC my guess is he will be next in line for top PAC-12 job like USC or UCLA.
Locksley has all of the regional ties one could have at Maryland. I'd say it's been a mixed bag at best for him.
I don't have an issue if Schiano is hired, but if I were boss I would explore every option, which even if Schiano is the best choice also helps you go into the negotiation with Schiano since you know what your fall back is.
If Clawson would take this job I’d hire him immediately
Do you know what an ombudsman is? It's like being a consumer watch correspondent on TV news. Totally vapid; doesn't qualify anyone for dogcatcher.
Not really the intricacies but from my understanding in layman's terms, when a politician does something thing bad you hire this guy to run interference for you. He acts as a buffer between you and the public as he runs some type of investigation into their complaints.
Seems that skill could come in handy fighting off the wolves(faculty, media, politicians) should we pay $4mil. head coach, $5mil. assistants like many of our B1G conference mates do. Because if that truly is the case, there will be significant push back from that group mentioned.
That's true. But Locksley had a bad record at NM. I think for Maryland the tradeoff was a little different than ours would be.
It's relatively rare than an ombudsman gets involved in politics that way. Generally speaking, an ombudsman handles citizen complaints against the city's or state's bureaucrats. If you want someone to run interference, you hire a lawyer a la the present President.
Not sure about that. He may never be able to top this year at Wake if they only end up with 2-3 losses and many coaches know to move on when they are hot. He might! Since he's from the Northeast he could prefer it here. Also can't imagine it's much fun being the 4th most popular program in your own state!
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He also doesn’t move the needle on recruiting or attendance.
Probably a very good HC but RU’s needs are greater at this point.
Is Clawson any better for RU than Greg?