Spotted Narduzzi's vehicle on I-80 East exiting onto the NJ Turnpike yesterday. . .
P5 coaches
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LOL
If you think you can get him, go for it.
We will hire Greg.
Although, I think he was driving in to check out some NJ recruits.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Tedford is not a great name. He is to Offense that Schiano is to defense as far as strengths. However, like Schiano, he has difficulties winning the big ones.
Ex-ASU Coach Todd Graham available too, but probably does not want to be East.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Graham
82-57 as a HC at Cal
24-8 at Fresno
bowl games 10 of 12 years as a HC
What exactly on that resume looks like Schianos?
He should have done much better at Cal. His talent level was quite strong. Better than what Schiano had.
so was his competition. Just to put how stupid what you wrote into context is. Her is Cal's progression:
Guy before Tedford went 12-39
Tedford went 82-57
Guy after Tedford went 19-30
But sure, he should have done better
I thought Tedford's program at Cal had issues with the academic side of student-athlete? Or was that Sonny Dykes?
dykes was 19-30. Hope he wasn't cheating. lol
Honestly, not sure about any academic stuff but that would have been a long time ago anyway
Regardless of how long ago, it's part of being a college coach that I think he didn't care so much about (have a feeling they don't care that much at Fresno either).
Moot discussion anyway because he ain't coming here.
This is one of the things that concerns me about Schiano. I know he's gotten accolades for his recruiting at tOSU, but is he really prepared to come in and secure us a decent class?
I think so. I don’t think schiano is as good a recruiter as people want to believe but he will get solid, tough kids.
Did you ever actually see Cal play or are you just mouthing off as an ignorant internet "know it all"? Not saying Cal was not successful, but he could have done more. Many in Cal country would agree with that. But go ahead and stick to your narrative.
And yes - Dykes was even worse. Cal AD thought Tedford system was behind the times and went with the Dykes spread. It was an epic fail. Dykes had no ties to the region and did not win many friends in recruiting circles in the core territory. Wilcox has come in and changed that culture. And, by the way, he is a defensive coach that was smart to bring in a strong OC.
THIS^^^^And you find that solid, tough kids tend to really come together as a team.
I remember reading once about how most people tend to romanticize good past experiences while forgetting how they felt during bad ones, and how that is a good thing because otherwise we would all grow up as an only child. I guess it's the same mechanism that is getting people to want to rush to bring Schiano back.
my narrative? I'm working in facts. He was better than the guy before him. better than the guy after his and he's doing it again at Fresno. You my friend are looking like the guy pushing an ignorant narrative.
That's what the program needs. Blue collar, tough, physical kids willing to get scrappy and punch teams in the mouth.
Tedford I think he's a reach cause he's usually on the west coast...his DC is from NJ though IIRC last time I looked.
He's a good offensive coach, only reservation I'd have about him isn't his offense more complex? I remember reading that about him and I'm always a big proponent of KISS....easier to plug and play and find personnel to run it well, especially the lower down the totem pole you are so that's something I always worry about that with good offensive coaches but whose systems might be harder to digest. Can you keep cranking out those qbs and players that can take it in. Jedd Fisch is one that comes to mind as well and a Josh Rosen quote about him and his playbook. Besides that though Tedford's obviously done a nice job at Fresno.
He's a good offensive coach, only reservation I'd have about him isn't his offense more complex? I remember reading that about him and I'm always a big proponent of KISS....easier to plug and play and find personnel to run it well, especially the lower down the totem pole you are so that's something I always worry about that with good offensive coaches but whose systems might be harder to digest. Can you keep cranking out those qbs and players that can take it in. Jedd Fisch is one that comes to mind as well and a Josh Rosen quote about him and his playbook. Besides that though Tedford's obviously done a nice job at Fresno.
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Let's start with what you noted. Tedford as a candidate. Let's start with what I responded. Not a good candidate. He was good at Cal but not as successful as he perhaps could have been given talent he had. Period.
Now to add. Record alone is seldom the whole story and I am sure you know that. It definitely has not helped some coaches succeed elsewhere. Here the overall story would point to Tedford not being a great hire for Rutgers. He is doing well in the MWC, but it is not a strong conference this year. It is not, however, the Pac 12 or B1G so that has to factor in. Next, Tedford does not have strong East Coast ties. He was a solid recruiter, but not great. Cal can attract talent in ways Rutgers cannot in that kids will want to go to Cal. Can Tedford recruit 3000 miles away from his familiar territory? I doubt it. Bottom line, good coach, but not for Rutgers.
Narduzzi just announced that he has no interest in Rutgers and staying at Pitt
First, you said he was not a good candidate and similar to schiano. He’s not similar to schiano in that he wins and wins often.
Second, my posts were about potential guys with P5 experience. Third, same things were said about Bronco Mendenhall yet Virginia was able to lure him.
You know I read an article about him in the Athletic and he specifically picked out a school like UVA to make the jump. He specifically wanted a rebuilding situation in the P5, a school that took academics seriously and recruited a specific type of student athlete.
That was definitely a surprise that he moved across country and with his whole staff too but how often will you come across the mindset in a coach that made him take that jump to UVA.
He is similar to Schiano in that Tedford is a strong offensive minded coach to Schiano being strong defensive minded. From that I said that like Schiano Tedford had difficultly "getting over the hump" when you wanted / needed him to. This was Schiano in some big games such as Cincy after knocking off L'ville or starting flat against Fresno St or Cincy in season openers.
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As far as jobs and where they were as programs? Yes. More importantly I’m responding to your comment about him being a west coast guy.
I would bet its easier to recruit to Virginia over Rutgers given program histories of both schools and support for respective institutions within the states. Virginia is not Georgia or Florida, of course, but it likely looks better than Rutgers on national stage.
Will be harder this time around because his connections in Florida cannot be as strong as they were when he came here after being the DC at Miami. While the number of good prospects from Florida remains rich, the competition for that talent is probably greater then when GS got here given the improvement in programs like UCF. He will bring a much more focused recruiting approach compared to the scattershot approach by CA but that is not saying much.
Schiano is the only name that will sell tickets his first year.
I don't know if that is fact or not, but there are a good number of schools that have higher standards in general than us that do quite well on the National Stage. Regardless, we still are not perceived to be a top destination even with lower standards (if that is indeed the case). An unfortunate reality.
Dude I can’t keep up with all your narrative changes. Newsflash, Virginia has 85 kids on scholarship. Maybe 1/3 of them give a crap about Virginia’s academic standing.
BTW, Dykes is 5-0 at SMU and they are now ranked. Dykes did not want to be at Cal. He was caught interviewing once or twice and they decided to can him.
You said VA had higher standards for letting folks in. I said, I don't know if fact or not. I said lots of schools may have that standard (e.g., Stanford), but in the end it doesn't matter. Rutgers is not perceived to be a great landing spot for a coach regardless as recruiting is challenging here. Tying it to Tedford, he would be challenged at Rutgers.
Yeah - admin was not happy with him. Plus his record shows. For his offense he needed to recruit nationally and did so at expense of local relationships despite fact that California is pretty rich in talent. Alums too were not happy with Dykes at all.
Laughing as it is true. My son was joking about how much smarter he became in everyone’s eyes once we became B1G and this was years after graduation.
No one cares about standards to get IN...
Either in Virginia. And with a good recruiter recruiting isn’t challenging here. Those are BS lies this board buys into. There is not one person on Virginia’s roster that is above what we can recruit here