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Doctor Worm

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I don’t know about pride but enjoyment definitely. No one thought we would be playing meaningful games in September.
Well I wouldn't say that. BVW certainly did, or at least claimed to. Remember "come get us"? Where this team is now has pretty much met my expectations, although they took a much different route than I expected.
 
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very good points, but "bust" is still a ridiculous characterization. I know that everybody on a web board exaggerates, but a bust would be if he performed as a below average player, and he was certainly a lot better than that, even if he didn't perform to the expectations that a lot of people had for him.
When you make what he makes you expect top 5 to top 1 in all those categories. The fact that the nationals eliminated trashydelphia is an delight and a satisfying FU! Could not happen to a better dude and city!
 

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First ballot because he was lucky af to be on those Yankee teams. But not unanimous.
Why as non Yankee fans, does everyone do this?

Please tell me why ANY HOF voter would not vote for him?

Please give me the post 1950 non steroid SS that even come close to comparison. He didn't even compile. his 2nd to last full year he had 216 hits and batted .316
What we are going to see now that HOF votes are reported, many more Unanimous players going in. Though, not a lot of sure things anyway over the next few years. But over the years, there are at least 10-20 guys that should have been absolute no brainer unanimous
 
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Why as non Yankee fans, does everyone do this?

Please tell me why ANY HOF voter would not vote for him?

Please give me the post 1950 non steroid SS that even come close to comparison. He didn't even compile. his 2nd to last full year he had 216 hits and batted .316
What we are going to see now that HOF votes are reported, many more Unanimous players going in. Though, not a lot of sure things anyway over the next few years. But over the years, there are at least 10-20 guys that should have been absolute no brainer unanimous
Truth. Jeter deserves to be unanimous. Don't let the mistakes of the past impact the future. Yes, 15-20 others should have had the same honors. Thankfully, Mo broke the ice.
 
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Why as non Yankee fans, does everyone do this?

Please tell me why ANY HOF voter would not vote for him?

Please give me the post 1950 non steroid SS that even come close to comparison. He didn't even compile. his 2nd to last full year he had 216 hits and batted .316
What we are going to see now that HOF votes are reported, many more Unanimous players going in. Though, not a lot of sure things anyway over the next few years. But over the years, there are at least 10-20 guys that should have been absolute no brainer unanimous
Because he was never considered the best at his position in any given year. HOF, of course, unanimous, no way.
 
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yesrutgers01

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Because he was never considered the best at his position in any given year. HOF, of course, unanimous, no way.
The sad thing is that if Arod didn’t decide to go all “bonds” on is, I am sure he still would have had a HOF career and would have been the best at his position for many of those years. But since he did cheat, you have to take him out of the equation. So, who does that leave with being ahead of Jeter for great individual years? Nomar? Without Arod and Nomar, Jeter May have had quite a few years at the top for individual years. And the only thing that ever held him from that distinction was power.
The guy played 20 years and his 162 game ave was almost 120 runs scored and 204 hits. And consistent for just about every year. These “never the best” arguments are as dumb as they get. Sorry
 

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The sad thing is that if Arod didn’t decide to go all “bonds” on is, I am sure he still would have had a HOF career and would have been the best at his position for many of those years. But since he did cheat, you have to take him out of the equation. So, who does that leave with being ahead of Jeter for great individual years? Nomar? Without Arod and Nomar, Jeter May have had quite a few years at the top for individual years. And the only thing that ever held him from that distinction was power.
The guy played 20 years and his 162 game ave was almost 120 runs scored and 204 hits. And consistent for just about every year. These “never the best” arguments are as dumb as they get. Sorry
3,465 hits
What else needs to be said?
 
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BTW- Mets related...CY on the line tonight.

Mets hitters please listen...If JAKE goes 7 innings 0-1 runs, please get him the fvking win. Thank you

At this point does it really matter if Jake has 10 or 11 wins? It's actually incredible even with the better team he has such a low total. Goes to show the W stat for a SP really doesn't matter.
 

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And yet we are going to skim on payroll yet again.

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According to @Joelsherman1
due to the insurance policy on Cespedes contract, the team recouped $21.75 million on his deal.

For a team that was all-in, you’d expect that money to be reinvested and not pocketed.
 
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The sad thing is that if Arod didn’t decide to go all “bonds” on is, I am sure he still would have had a HOF career and would have been the best at his position for many of those years. But since he did cheat, you have to take him out of the equation. So, who does that leave with being ahead of Jeter for great individual years? Nomar? Without Arod and Nomar, Jeter May have had quite a few years at the top for individual years. And the only thing that ever held him from that distinction was power.
The guy played 20 years and his 162 game ave was almost 120 runs scored and 204 hits. And consistent for just about every year. These “never the best” arguments are as dumb as they get. Sorry
HOF, of course, just not 100% of the vote. I could list so many more that should have. He needed and didn't have the no doubt about it career Mariano had.
 

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HOF, of course, just not 100% of the vote. I could list so many more that should have. He needed and didn't have the no doubt about it career Mariano had.
Who would be the person to vote against him and have it made public. And we all know there are a lot of players who should have previously been unanimous but that no longer matters.
 

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You absolutely can that's the point. The ball was flying out of YS in 2017 way more than it was in Citi this year.
No it's not. It's to adjust each stadium within a particular year. That's why 1.0 set as the annual reference point. It doesn't vary year to year.

I tried to find the raw # of HRs per stadium, but wasn't able to. Give it a try. That would be helpful.
 

yesrutgers01

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But in the biggest juiced ball season of all-time, it will be a hollow record. Alonso needs at least 58 or 59 to match Judge.
Stop- you are just sounding stupid now...And Alonso still hasn’t beaten him yet. Both rookie seasons Judge and Alonso - incredible. Most likely be separated by 1 HR at most if not tied. Give both guys equal credit.
 

yesrutgers01

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Another great game for deGrom and may have locked up the CYA. I believe Ryu may have one more start. I would have to think he would need a monster performance to get it over deGrom. Jake leads in everything but wins and the era is super close. If Ryu even has just a good game, let's sat 7 innings 3 ER...Jake may even catch him there. But deGrom dominates him in everything else. American league CYA will be interesting between teammates though.
 
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