There is no shot this program can ever get to a consistent winning record in this conference. There's no shot at getting consistently average at 6-6, and is that really something to be excited about? Going 6-6 and making a BS bowl game that shouldn't even exist, is not a football team that I will be spending much of my time and none of my money on. Since the structure of this school is what it is and won't be changing any time soon, and the conference is what it is and this team is in the division that it is in, there's just no shot Rutgers fans will see winning football again. At least there is hope in basketball.
Totally hopeless
- Thread starter Goku
- Start date
Well it’s certainly hopeless with Ash. A new coach can maybe galvanize recruiting. Even then it will be several years before there are any real results. Just amazing the mistakes we keep making. Hiring Flood and then this dud personality in Ash.
Maybe you should take a look at how long you've been here as opposed to
Goku. Many of us have been pulling for RU a very long time and had way too few chances to be optimistic.
Today's results appear to be yet another start to a terrible season.
Stop
Get the right coach and he will recruit the players to compete in the big ten
If northwestern can...we certainly can
Period
I just spit beer all over my phone reading that
Reading the whining of op and then seeing that was classic. Perfect timing
Tell us why you would question the observations made by the poster after watching the last 14 P5 games + Buffalo game that RU has played.
not possible. And they are in the other division.
Rutgers has very little ability in getting a "right coach." The best you're going to get is 5-7 while probably averaging 4-8. High water mark is 6-6. That's this program's future for years to come. As long as my health is fine, I'll be here to see if you are right and I am wrong. I want to hope that you are right and I'm wrong, but I'm all out of hope.
Exactly ... if we had hired Mike Leach right now we'd be talking about how we're going to beat the **** out of Michigan this year.
If if if...
Selecting a coach isn't a draft. What makes you think Mike Leach would accept an offer from us? Or that other poster who wanted Mark Richt...as if he'd even take a phone call from Rutgers.
Lol
http://<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/26uf6o80xhd6MKGIw" width="480" height="264" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/will-smith-1live-applaus-26uf6o80xhd6MKGIw">via GIPHY</a></p>
Last edited:
If only there was a coach available that proved he could recruit NY, NJ, PA and Florida. Hmmmm
But you can’t afford it because the buyout. Never mind the elephant in the room 15,000 season ticket sales gone since this bozo was hired. That we can afford.
But you can’t afford it because the buyout. Never mind the elephant in the room 15,000 season ticket sales gone since this bozo was hired. That we can afford.
Once Ash is gone there is a chance
Great hope if GS is hired
Great hope if GS is hired
$1000 a ticket is an exaggeration. As an average $500 would be a better number to use to cover tickets +seat gift, and that is still $7.5 million in lost revenue.
I would like to know what coach is going to come to Rutgers and put us on the same level with Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Michigan State?
Since everyone seems to think it is all Ash's fault. And before that it was all Flood's fault and before that it was all Schiano's fault..............
Since everyone seems to think it is all Ash's fault. And before that it was all Flood's fault and before that it was all Schiano's fault..............
Management is cause, all else is effect.
Common thread. Rutgers Administration.
We don’t need to be Ohio State, Michigan or Penn State. We need to be Iowa or Northwestern....middle of the pack and competitive. We can definitely get to this level with the right coach. Nobody can convince me otherwise.
The Buffalo coach has his team in the red zone mid second quarter trailing only 7-0.
Then stop being a fan. Sorry, but can't stand so called fans with your mentality. Why are you even here and following the team if you believe they will be nothing but mediocre in your eyes?
Your post represents the fan mentality that will keep Rutgers down. Nobody ever said we were going to be on the same level with the blue bloods. We may never be there. But we could perform like Northwestern--6-8 wins most years, and every 4-7 years or so, 9-11 wins. I would sign up for that. What sane person thought we would be shoulder to shoulder with the blue bloods upon entry into the Big 10?
Agee Jim. No one is suggesting we need to compete head to head with the conference elite. But MD, IN, IL, Purdue,, MN, NW, IA, WI and yes even Michigan State who we beat three out of 4 times before joining the Big Ten -- we should be competitive with these schools and that means winning about half the time
We went 8-5 in our 1st year in the conference with an imbecile for a coach. It absolutely can be done here with the right coach and money. Money is coming eventually, the right coach, well even the sunshine's on a dogs *** some days.
Seriously, that ones going to depend on getting an AD who can identify talented football coaches. Hobbs for all his acumen in basketball and fundraising has no experience in football. His sole lifetime experience is Chris Ash.
Hobbs gets one more chance to hire the right football coach. After that, all bets are off.
Well Dan Mullen took that phone call. We just could meet his $6mil. price tag. Florida did and it's turning out pretty good for them. In the game of college football those who have the most money and are willing to spend it, win.
We could have gotten the Buffalo coach after last season for the same or less that we are paying Ash and he has his team winning a night game at PSU 10-7 at halftime.
I've got an idea ... let's (for once in the history of the school) try it my way. Take a boatload of cash and throw it at a bigtime name coach (who has won New Years Day bowls at other schools). Then, if they say "No," at least we tried.
Alternatively, we could just be a dogshit team for the next 150 years (just like the first 150 years).
And to answer the next question (where is the money coming from?) ... find it somewhere. Cut every other athletic program at the school other than Mens BB and Women's Track if you have to. At a school with our budget, you shouldn't have to do that to find $6 mil/yr, but if you do? Fine, go ahead and get rid of everything else. Football drives the bus and needs to be fixed first.
Mike Leach went to Washington State, not Ohio State. Bobby Petrino spent a year at Western Kentucky just to be able to coach. Tommy Tuberville took a job at Cincinnati, which has the worst facilities in the country. Les Miles is coaching at powerhouse Kansas.
Last edited:
How many of the 16,000 season ticket holders left bail after this year?
Drop another 2 or 3 million in revenue for a cool $10 million a year. But can’t afford to buyout a 7 million dollar contract?
Some genius management going on here my folks.
Drop another 2 or 3 million in revenue for a cool $10 million a year. But can’t afford to buyout a 7 million dollar contract?
Some genius management going on here my folks.
Maybe we should try to be on the same level as Maryland first. Is Maryland too high of a bar for Rutgers? How about Utah? How about Washington State? Central Florida? Iowa State?
I know who Lance Leipold is. I was intrigued by him back in 2017 when he went 6-6 at Buffalo. Which is not an easy place to win at. My post was to show, that people need not worry about coaches wanting to work here, they will pick up the phone. You just have to present the right deal to them and they will sign on the dotted line.
Yeah, my point was more to add on to your post about high priced coaches and point out that there are all sorts of options for RU.
Last edited:
Need a football savvy , experienced P5 AD to hire the next coach, who will have D1 Head Coaching experience. No more Neophytes who need 5 years on the job training.
I don't know how to break it to you but "fan mentality" has absolutely nothing to do with keeping Rutgers down.
When RU first entered the Big Ten, both Penn State and Michigan were down and if you recall, we beat Michigan. And at that time there were plenty of sane people who thought we might be able to compete with the big boys.
Personally, I never did, even when those programs were down. I have always seen it like @JimRU saw it...............Having a realistic ceiling of being like a Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Maryland and Minnesota and every once in a decade beat Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan State and Nebraska.
My only point about Ash is he may get it done but then again, he may be the second coming of Terry Shea. But regardless of who is the head coach, I always saw it as at least a five year build to respectability. And by respectability, I mean 6 wins, maybe 7 and a minor bowl game.
Nice deflection. I am well aware of how fan mentality affects a program. How much do you donate annually? That affects a program. Fans with your mentality likely sit on their hands and decide they will donate when Rutgers starts winning the B1G East in football. Chicken or egg.
Michigan was never really down. Their recruiting was still top 10 or 12. They got rid of Hoke, and they were back on track. Penn State was a bit down, but Franklin picked up recruiting, and they missed a step for a year.
Eight years of subpar recruiting, player transfers, dismissals, and crappy coaching has cratered the program. A good coach would get us competitive versus embarrassing, and recruiting will pick up.
I will never understand how on an anonymous message board, someone can assume to know another anonymous posters contributions to their alma mater.
Suffice to say, you couldn't be more wrong. Really dumb post on your part.
Look at our first year in the conference if you want to see what Rutgers is capable of with players brought in by a coach who could recruit, and coached by a coach who couldn't coach his way out of wet paper bag. Now just imagine if we had a coach who could recruit and coach?
If you followed my post and learned how to actually comprehend what you read, you would of saw that I have always believed that we could be a middle of the pack Big Ten team. Maryland, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern and perhaps Michigan State and Iowa.
But you could bring in Urban Meyer tomorrow and we are never going to get a whiff of OSU, PSU, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nebraska.
And as I also stated Ash may or may not be the guy who gets us to middle of the pack land. But slitting our collective wrists over a hard fought 30-0 loss in Iowa City where clearly the players gave it their all will not solve anything.
But if it helps you to sleep better taking shots at a few posters who don't want to wait outside Ash's house and string him up, then have had it.