OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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Kbee3

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Did Stroman freak out after being told he was being shipped to the Mets instead of the Yankees ?
 
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Doctor Worm

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Mets traded Vargas to the Phils according to reports on ESPN
No surprise there. Vargas has been a persona non grata since he threatened to punch out the Newsday reporter, and then declined to apologize.

Now the question is, are they done?
 

BigEastPhil

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If that’s all you can get for Vargas, why bother even trading him? 195 hitter and 25’years old catcher and playing in AA ball. Oh gosh. Another disgrace mets financial dump. Chalk this trade to the Wilpons
 

Doctor Worm

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If that’s all you can get for Vargas, why bother even trading him? 195 hitter and 25’years old catcher and playing in AA ball. Oh gosh. Another disgrace mets financial dump. Chalk this trade to the Wilpons
Methinks they traded him because they were REALLY pissed off at him.
 
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RuBird

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You have it backwards. Mets sent Phils $2M, which covers his 2020 buyout. Mets save the approx. $3M remaining on his 2019 contract.
SNY was reporting Mets get 2 million. If it works out to be 3 million even better. Now nothing matters unless the Coupons use the money the right way next year
 

yesrutgers01

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You have it backwards. Mets sent Phils $2M, which covers his 2020 buyout. Mets save the approx. $3M remaining on his 2019 contract.
WTF? Not at you but the Mets...
He actually may be pitching better than any stater that has a capital letter for his first name. Defensive prospect? Just keep him if that is the case.
On the other hand- I can’t stand the guy. Something about his greasy long hair and attitude...
 
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Retired711

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Get Stroman for Vargas. That's essentially what happened here, right? Doesn't sound that bad from a baseball standpoint, and the Mets wanted to be rid of Vargas. Wonder how he'll do in Philadelphia. Gabe Kapler overestimates his ability to cope with difficult players.

Assuming Vargas isn't a terrible head case, the Phillies are better off; they gave up essentially nothing for him except a minor-league catcher with no bat. And the Phillies need a left-handed starter.
 

Doctor Worm

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WTF? Not at you but the Mets...
He actually may be pitching better than any stater that has a capital letter for his first name. Defensive prospect? Just keep him if that is the case.
On the other hand- I can’t stand the guy. Something about his greasy long hair and attitude...
Since you gave my prior post a like, I assume we are in agreement as to why Vargas was traded.
 

Doctor Worm

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Would you really be happy with a Dalbec/Chatham package? We gave up 2 studs for him and ate Cano.
No. Not my point. That trade probably isn't happening. That's what Boston offered. I suspect BVW will turn it down. If he does not, I'm right behind you with the pitchforks and torches!
 

Zak57

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No. Not my point. That trade probably isn't happening. That's what Boston offered. I suspect BVW will turn it down. If he does not, I'm right behind you with the pitchforks and torches!

Ok that's fair! You definitely have a better demeanor with all of this but it just looks like we're making moves to stay in the headlines. I don't see any larger picture here.
 

yesrutgers01

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Since you gave my prior post a like, I assume we are in agreement as to why Vargas was traded.
Vargas is a guy I wanted traded. He has also shown of recent, he can be very valuable to a contender. Can’t stand him but he has been pitching like a crafty vet that usually does well in post season.
They got nothing in return...maybe a 10% chance at a catcher that could get 2-3 years in the Bigs as best as a backup or 3rd catcher and they paid to do it?
That is reverse ****** up.
 

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Vargas is a guy I wanted traded. He has also shown of recent, he can be very valuable to a contender. Can’t stand him but he has been pitching like a crafty vet that usually does well in post season.
They got nothing in return...maybe a 10% chance at a catcher that could get 2-3 years in the Bigs as best as a backup or 3rd catcher and they paid to do it?
That is reverse ****ed up.
Mets got a bag of balls and a few bucks for Vargas. Weird.
 

Doctor Worm

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The Thor saga gets crazier and crazier.

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic is reporting that NOW, the Mets are asking only for MLB-ready talent, not prospects.

So who the hell knows.
 

T2Kplus10

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Did Thor threatened a reporter and thats why he is being traded?
Being serious for a post - Mets are silly to trade NS. He is under control for another year. Mets need to get rid of the garbage, get their young players to the right positions, hope DS can learn to be an OF in the off season, and sign FA bullpen help. They don't need to get cute.
 
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SouthJerseyRU

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Vargas is a below average pitcher, with this trade he immediately becomes the Phillies 2nd best starter.


 
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yesrutgers01

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If you were to tell me we trade Vargas and the two pitching prospects to Toronto for Stroman, I would be ok with it. A dump and two mid tier prospects for a proven starter.
But since we already made the Toronto deal, this makes no sense. A guy who like him or not, has won in this league and having a good year and for what? Sorry, but it had to be all about personality. I also think that seems to be a Thor issue.!from this winter through now, it seems he pushed them off ever since he called them out for not signing deGrom sooner.
 
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