Marvin Price 2019
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I did read. I read you putting down a very talented freshman guard on our team for no reason at all. And that makes which one of us the jackass? Guys develop at different rates. Eugene frosh year would've been placed below every freshman we have this year.
Sorry, I generally don’t pick on people, but you don’t read and everything in the universe has conspired to make you a jackass.
What are you talking about comparing their players to Mathis. They could all shoot and killed us from three. Mathis can't shoot.
And a lot of players don't develop at all - Bullock, Mensah. Is Kiss better than he was two years ago? Mathis forces up out of control shots. Maybe that doesn't change. Freeman never stopped taking bad threes.
So now you're comparing Bullock and mensah to Mathis. That's almost as horrendously bad a point as you trying to claim that Baker is a below average big ten guard on the premium forum. Where do you come up with this stuff? I can't take either point as more than just a sick joke.
I just used them as examples of kids who didn't develop. I didn't compare their talent to that of Mathis. I'm not sure if Zeb was right calling you a jackass, but you sure are stupid.
Smaller teams can be better offensive rebounding teams because they take longer shots and more threes. That means the rebounds are more likely to fall further from the basket, and the quicker (smaller) players are more likely to get them.
Souf and Bullock are still pretty bad examples. Souf was an older guy picked up as a desperate band-aid that was here for 1 year. Bullock was a guy that needed to develop lost of a waist before the staff could develop him (requires buy-in) and was picked up as an olive branch offer to a great local program.
I cant believe you're making me defend Ash, but you and Zeb's arguments on Mathis are terrible. He has as much if not more potential than any of our young players, and this staff has a higher percentage hit rate on "development" than fail rate. That's why you're resorting to Souf and Bullock as your examples of failures.
OK, Kiss, Thiam, and Geo all regressed during the season, so there's three others.
My view of MM: He is very under-developed as a basketball player. He is not a good shooter, a poor free-throw shooter, and poor decision maker. He is between a good and excellent defender—let’s say a very good defender. I do not think he will be anything near a star in the B1G based upon athleticism—there are simply too many fine athletes. To stand out he will have to develop his game and recognize what B1G competition is about. I absolutely expect him to develop and improve—how much, how knows? I think his best role this coming year will be as a defensive stopper, as a rebounder, a “junk man” or “put back”-type scorer (that is not a put down), and as a slasher—a slasher but! I thought there were times this year that in trying to develop Montez, Pike gave him more latitude than he’ll have next year. I think his numbers next year will be comparable to this year’s with a bit of an uptick, I hope, in rebounds and assists. Sorry if this seems like I’m trashing kid. I dont think I am.
Kiss’s game was exposed. Not so much a regression as it was teams figured him out. Overall Geo’s season was an improvement and with reinforcements coming at pg he is poised to have another improved season next year.
Myles Ron Mathis and Caleb all have high ceilings. Better than having 4 freshman where we are trying to figure out which one sucks the most
Funny how he puts them down without mentioning either in the post. I guess now if you say another player has a similar ceiling to them it's now equivalent to condemning all our players. Please try to make better points. Posts like this one have zero merit and you're the only one who thinks you're clever making them.
Yes I'm the one who is stupid when you are the one calling Baker, our all-big ten honorable mention as a sophomore, a below average big ten guard. Thats the kind of post that loses you all credibility here on the basketball forum. You know how dumb that sounds, right? I don't even think you're a jackass. I think you're just incredibly ignorant or senile if you believe that.
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Zeb was right. You can't read. I said above that coaches are usually asked to pick one of their own players as honorable mention. So genius, Geo's our PG. An above average PG in the Big Ten, which is capitalized by he way, would start ahead of more than a few other PG's in the league. Which teams would he start for? And while you're at it tell me when Ash, you're idol, catches em, and what you had for dinner at the Ash residence last night.
I never called him an above average PG. I called him an above average guard. And you specifically went out of your way to say he was a below average SG and a far below average PG. This is not about ash or football..I've stated since the Kansas game he is a failure. This is about your points that are completely ridiculous regarding our basketball team.
Happy to attach the quote I'm referring to regarding the best player on our team (Baker):
I have no idea why on earth a conversation about Malcom price turned into this crap ...
He definitely has a Mathis-y type game.
In the state semifinals he went 0-3 from three and just 5-11 at the line. But in the championship he went 3-7 from three and 4-4 at the line. 2 assists to 6 turnovers combined in those games.
Going off the box scores and tape I've found, he's not going to be a reliable, knockdown shooter or a high-level distributor. But he's a high-major athlete and would have the luxury of not needing to step into a big role here right away.
One other difference is that Mathis played alongside a 5* PG (Immanuel Quickley) while Price was "the man" on his teams that won two state titles. I like that.
In the state semifinals he went 0-3 from three and just 5-11 at the line. But in the championship he went 3-7 from three and 4-4 at the line. 2 assists to 6 turnovers combined in those games.
Going off the box scores and tape I've found, he's not going to be a reliable, knockdown shooter or a high-level distributor. But he's a high-major athlete and would have the luxury of not needing to step into a big role here right away.
One other difference is that Mathis played alongside a 5* PG (Immanuel Quickley) while Price was "the man" on his teams that won two state titles. I like that.
I guess you only watched their one game against us and shot way over their normal efficiency. Did you watch their last 10-15 games , where they shot like hell and I am talking about Herron, Figueroa and Clark. They jacked up and clanged shot after shot. Their game against Arizona state was unwatchable and they were not close to the team that played us in November and did not deserve to be in the tourney . Stop making generalizations after 1 game. Was RonHarper the same three point shooter his first 10-14 games or the last 14 games ? Your broad brush is ignorant.
I doubt any player taken will be better than what is already on the roster.Right now Rutgers isn't a destination school for high level 4/5 star recruits.Winning will change perception and the recruits that Rutgers has a chance of attracting.
I saw them more than once, they were clearly better than us, and deserved to be in the
tournament. No need for insults d-head.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the SJU game the third game that Montez and the other 3 freshmen played. I wonder who would have the won the game if played in late January.
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Would have been a better game in late Jan., but St. John's shot "lights out" that and would have beaten almost anyone that night.