says a lot about this league

[RUich]

when the last place team can beat the one in first. Lots of parity for sure.
Not so looking forward to playing PSU now.

 

[RU-ROCS]

when the last place team can beat the one in first. Lots of parity for sure.
Not so looking forward to playing PSU now.

When the last place team is 1-11, it’s not a positive for the conference. That was a really bad loss for UM. I love the Big10 and think it’s a top, very competitive league. But, I don’t see Duke going on the road to face an ACC team with 1 conference win in February and losing. This makes me think maybe there is no final 4 quality team in the Big10 despite its depth this year.

 

[RUonBrain]

When the last place team is 1-11, it’s not a positive for the conference. That was a really bad loss for UM. I love the Big10 and think it’s a top, very competitive league. But, I don’t see Duke going on the road to face an ACC team with 1 conference win in February and losing. This makes me think maybe there is no final 4 quality team in the Big10 despite its depth this year.

But PSU is much better than the bottom teams in the ACC.

 

[rufeelinit]

PSU has lost a lot of close games. Problem for them is that they have been consistently losing the close ones.

 

[RUtrumpet92_rivals498139]

Maybe it means as much as when we beat Wisconsin under Jordan. Just one of those nights?

 

[kcg88]

When the last place team is 1-11, it’s not a positive for the conference. That was a really bad loss for UM. I love the Big10 and think it’s a top, very competitive league. But, I don’t see Duke going on the road to face an ACC team with 1 conference win in February and losing. This makes me think maybe there is no final 4 quality team in the Big10 despite its depth this year.

Final 4 quality team means nothing. Michigan wasn't really a "final 4 quality team" last year until they made it. They had finished 4th in a down Big 10. Loyola Chicago certainly wasn't final 4 quality.

 

[dpwhite]

Basketball is an any given night kind of game. Upsets happen all the time and teams rarely only win one conference game, no matter how bad they are (which says a ton about the jordan era).

 

[RUnTeX]

Maybe it means as much as when we beat Wisconsin under Jordan. Just one of those nights?

Exactly...didnt that Wiscy team end up playing in the national championship?

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Final 4 quality team means nothing. Michigan wasn't really a "final 4 quality team" last year until they made it. They had finished 4th in a down Big 10. Loyola Chicago certainly wasn't final 4 quality.

This is true. Matchups and upsets matter in the NCAAs. Then confidence can set in and a team gets on a roll.

 

[RUJMM78]

when the last place team can beat the one in first. Lots of parity for sure.
Not so looking forward to playing PSU now.

Parity is a positive way of saying the league has mediocrity where bottom tier teams upset highly ranked teams.For Michigan the loss to Penn State is considered a bad loss and will impact NCAA seeding.Rutgers must beat Penn State because its the only remaining game where they will be the favorite at the RAC.

 

[RUTrack94]

As long as RU is not in last, that’s all that matters for RU!

 

[Knights 1212]

Penn State had no one who could guard Stephens. Teske is a center and he couldn't stay with him. Stephens is very strong. I think Eugene plays him pretty well. Reeves is pretty good as well and their freshman hit at least 5 threes and seems to be improving. I am glad we will play them at home on senior night. Two weeks ago I thought Chambers had little chance of returning but his kids are still playing hard and maybe he will.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Final 4 quality team means nothing. Michigan wasn't really a "final 4 quality team" last year until they made it. They had finished 4th in a down Big 10. Loyola Chicago certainly wasn't final 4 quality.

Fair point, as luck, seeding and who is hot at the right time plays a significant part of who makes the Final 4. My point was that it's hard to say you're an elite team, like a Duke, if you lose in February to a conference foe with 1 win.

 

[dkostus]

When the last place team is 1-11, it’s not a positive for the conference. That was a really bad loss for UM. I love the Big10 and think it’s a top, very competitive league. But, I don’t see Duke going on the road to face an ACC team with 1 conference win in February and losing. This makes me think maybe there is no final 4 quality team in the Big10 despite its depth this year.

Duke loses a game to a really bad team almost every year.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Duke loses a game to a really bad team almost every year.

I hate Duke, but when is the last time they lost to a team with a 1-11 conference record. I suspect the answer is decades.

 

[kcg88]

I hate Duke, but when is the last time they lost to a team with a 1-11 conference record. I suspect the answer is decades.

Last year, St. John's started 0-11 in the Big East. They beat Duke in their next game.

In 2017, Duke lost to NC State who finished 4-14 in the ACC. In 2014 they lost to Wake Forest who went 6-12.

And on and on.

 

[RutgHoops]

The B1G has all 14 teams in the top 92 according to kenpom
The ACC has three teams, BC, GA Tech, and Wake ranked 115, 103 and 176 respectively according to kenpom
The SEC has two teams, Vanderbilt and Georgia ranked 136 and 127 respectively according to kenpom and 3 additional teams South Carolina, Missouri and Texas A+M (95, 94 and 98 respectively) ranked as worse than any team in the B1G.

This league is loaded this year.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

What team in the B1G has the highest probability of beating Duke head to head?

Wisconsin?

 

[RutgHoops]

What team in the B1G has the highest probability of beating Duke head to head?

Wisconsin?

Michigan!

When your resume includes: a 27 point win over Nova, a 17 point win over UNC, a 19 point win over Purdue (etc) then you have demonstrated the ability to beat anyone (imo). And while I like Greg Gard (a bunch), Beilein is the guy I want on the other side in a win or go home game v Coach K.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Will Michigan be versatile enough to play different lineups and different defenses (namely zone?).

Maryland does NOT match up well with them.
Purdue, MAYBE.

 

[RutgHoops]

Will Michigan be versatile enough to play different lineups and different defenses (namely zone?).

Maryland does NOT match up well with them.
Purdue, MAYBE.

Cant "out athlete" this Duke team. You can out shoot them. Gonzaga for example went 10-19 from 3 against Duke and shot 53% overall from the floor. Michigan is the answer. Not saying they will, just saying from a B1G perspective I think they have the best chance because they can shoot it at all 5 spots.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Cant "out athlete" this Duke team. You can out shoot them. Gonzaga for example went 10-19 from 3 against Duke and shot 53% overall from the floor. Michigan is the answer. Not saying they will, just saying from a B1G perspective I think they have the best chance because they can shoot it at all 5 spots.

Michigan has shot it poorly. Purdue can shoot it very good. I hate how much Edwards has the basketball and the shots he takes.

 

[RUfinal4]

Why can't bad Rutgers teams get their 1 top 10 victory each year like we used to?

UM is a #3-5 seed in this year's tourney

We beat a ranked Ohio St team that is no longer ranked

At least we are not getting blown out like we used to.

We need to be that team that even when we have a down year we are competitive in all games and can pull out the WTF win against a top 25 team.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Last year, St. John's started 0-11 in the Big East. They beat Duke in their next game.

In 2017, Duke lost to NC State who finished 4-14 in the ACC. In 2014 they lost to Wake Forest who went 6-12.

And on and on.

The question was a conference foe in February. So, the answer so far is 0. (SJU is not in the ACC).

 

[kcg88]

The question was a conference foe in February. So, the answer so far is 0. (SJU is not in the ACC).

Well then you're making the question too narrow. No, they didn't lose to a team exactly 1-11 in the ACC. But Penn State this year is rated by the computers higher than the 2017 NC State team and the 2014 Wake Forest team that Duke lost to. So which is really the worse loss?

Also this quote says nothing about the team needing to be in the ACC:

I hate Duke, but when is the last time they lost to a team with a 1-11 conference record. I suspect the answer is decades.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Well then you're making the question too narrow. No, they didn't lose to a team exactly 1-11 in the ACC. But Penn State this year is rated by the computers higher than the 2017 NC State team and the 2014 Wake Forest team that Duke lost to. So which is really the worse loss?

Also this quote says nothing about the team needing to be in the ACC:

Fair enough.

 

[AshCatchEm]

when the last place team can beat the one in first. Lots of parity for sure.
Not so looking forward to playing PSU now.

Oh please...I'll happily play PSU every night of the week. They suck.

 

[e5fdny]

Please stop.

And then start your post.